Please help me with Revelation pairings!

[Lynn]

Hello, everyone!

I have finished Conquest with a MaMU and I'm going through Revelation using a FeMU. I use the typical +Spd -Lck for boon/bane and Ninja as Talent in this run (this is kind of random, never used Avatar as Ninja before).

So I already did these pairings, most of them because I like the hair on these children and their mods/growth look viable to me (thanks to https://inheritance-planner.herokuapp.com/):

• Jakob x Oboro (I rather like this navy shade than Mozu/Kagero's browish)
• Silas x (either Effie, Mozu or Kagero for cute hair Sophie)
• Kaze x
• Ryoma x
• Takumi x
• Saizo x
• Kaden x Azura
• Hinata x Hana
• Azama x Sakura
• Subaki x (I haven't paired him with anyone yet, but probably Hinoka? Because red hair)
• Hayato x
• Xander x
• Leo x
• Benny x
• Keaton x Camilla (I like Charlotte's, but her hair looks best on Percy. On Siegbert it's too bright)
• Arthur x Charlotte (Percy looks so awesome with Charlotte's hair)
• Odin x
• Laslow x (Most likely Selena. I like Peri here, I really do. But there's no other way for Laslow to get Falcobot)
• Niles x Elise

I kind of forgot the whole class thingy, but it's fine since I'm going to use their respective class anyway except for Azama and Mitama. Mitama can S rank Shiro for Basara though, so I'm not too worried. Midori can either take Sniper from Kiragi or have Setsuna mothered her.

That leaves Avatar (+Spd - Lck), Beruka, Effie, Felicia, Hinoka, Kagero, Mozu, Peri, Rinkah, Setsuna, Orochi, Nyx who are still available.

Would anyone help me to complete my pairings, please? I'm mostly looking for good mods and maybe classes if necessary (especially MU's other child, whoever they are :D), skills are not important to me because of Friend castle and logbook. I have access to all DLC classes. And since I'm playing on Revelation, grinding is possible so unless the growth is as horrible as Gunter's rank I'm fine with it, though I always try not to outlevel any enemies in Story mode.

If it helps I play in Lunatic Classic. I do pvp so I want to balance it out too, but mostly I just do friendly battles so it can still be manageable!

I'm not fond of 2nd gen x MU though nor Fuga/Shura, other than those I'm fine with any gen 1 character, except Silas and Subaki. (It's not like I dislike them or anything, I just like other's hair on Sophie and Caeldori :D)

Kana's not going to be strong as 2nd gen anyway so I'm not too worried about his mods, but rather MU's other child. I mean, who would benefit the most from MU with these settings? Talent is irrelevant I suppose since they always inherit Nohr Prince/ss.

I would be grateful for any kind of inputs. Thank you so much in advance!

[Experiment 626]

For your MU, I'm pairing mine w/Benny, so that Ignatius can have her silver coloured hair, and in effect be a stand-in for Rhaegar. (my F!MU is of course, Daenerys (Targaryen) ;))

[Lynn]

Wow that sounds neat! But unfortunately my MU doesn't have any Str nor Def to give Ignatius. Is that still... viable? Does Ignatius need Spd? I was thinking of making a general with Wary Fighter, or does he excel at other things?

Edited April 24, 2016 by Lynn

[Experiment 626]

Not too sure honestly, since I've done so much skill farming through the My Castle feature, I'm instead doing all my pairing based on what class trees I'd rather have on each child, since I can fix any stat/RNG skewing by just passing down Aptitude to each kid.

Hence, even the really slow characters like Iggi and the other Knight/Generals will eventually max out their speed to the point only things like Ninja Masters & Swordmasters can still double them. (and outside of the annoying as feth stat debuffs, Ninjas can't really hurt my tanks!)

[Anime27Arts]

One thing I did was put Selena with Subaki, most so I could have the Caledori like her grandmother. I see where you are coming from with Selena X Laslow, because I did the same thing on my Conquest run-through. If you want Rhajat to have the hair color of Tharja and the same classing as her then Hayato X Nyx is where you need to go with that one. Forrest would be okay with a higher speed so he has a better chance of dodging since he is just a healer at first. I don't advice marring Odin because Ophelia needs that luck so she has better crits and makes her that much better as a unit. If you want Midori to have outrageous speed then I guess Kaze, but I think it would be best not to with that crazy speed, likewise with Saizo and Asugi. I like Kaze with Kaegro not only because the support but you can end up with an OP Midori. Mine has Lethality, and maybe Sol(but I got that skill from my castle) and that makes Midori an amazing unit all around. If there's anyone else you are curious about let me know

[eclipse]

In my order. . .

Takumi - His pool is. . .depressing. His best shot, IMO, is your avatar - Kana can be a debuffing Sniper or something. If you absolutely reject that pairing based on your personal preferences, your next-best bet is Setsuna.

Ryoma - If you didn't use Setsuna on Takumi, put her here. Otherwise, use Mozu. It's strange, but I'll explain this in a bit. Also, Shiro doesn't really need a third class, because he's already got two great ones.

Odin - grab Orochi, and make an epic magical Ophelia.

Hayato - can have Nyx, so she can go back to being a Sorcerer. A somewhat inaccurate one, though, because her Skill's gonna be pretty bad (blame Hayato)

Leo - Felicia makes a pretty good Forrest, but the support chain blows. Peri makes for an amusing Forrest, if you really hate Felicia's supports.

Xander - Since we're running out of people, I'd pair him with Effie, for a giant Strength mod.

Benny - Rinkah makes a better Iggy tank than Beruka, IMO. Which is why Mozu went to Ryoma.

Silas - Turns out that Kagero works surprisingly well on Sophie.

Kaze - Even though Beruka means that Midori won't be doing a lot of raw damage, Poison Strike + Savage Blow should fix that. She works well as a Spy's Shuriken sniper with this build, because of a pretty good Skill mod.

Laslow - Not arguing with Selena!

Subaki - Eh, he can have Hinoka.

Saizo - If you didn't pair with Takumi, put your avatar here - Asugi ends up with Cavalier, and paired with Dragonic Hex (which isn't a bad thing to pass down IMO) and no negative defensive mods, he'll be pretty funny. Kana's going to be Saizo with better mods. Mozu works, if she's still free (though I'd pass down Quick Draw or Certain Blow because I'm insane like that).

I think that's everyone. That leaves one of Felicia/Peri in the dust. Not that either of them mind, since you're on Lunatic in Revelations.

[Lynn]

Not too sure honestly, since I've done so much skill farming through the My Castle feature, I'm instead doing all my pairing based on what class trees I'd rather have on each child, since I can fix any stat/RNG skewing by just passing down Aptitude to each kid.

Hence, even the really slow characters like Iggi and the other Knight/Generals will eventually max out their speed to the point only things like Ninja Masters & Swordmasters can still double them. (and outside of the annoying as feth stat debuffs, Ninjas can't really hurt my tanks!)

But wouldn't it be better for a tank to have more durability instead of speed? There's little point in them doubling since they're not the main damage dealer and it'd be kind of risky to let Ninjas debuff or Swordmasters hurt your tank, I think so. I've never tried a speedy tank before, I've always think that some Def/Res works best on them. And Iggy doesn't work well as dodge tank I think. >_<

But Benny is a sweetheart for sure.

One thing I did was put Selena with Subaki, most so I could have the Caledori like her grandmother. I see where you are coming from with Selena X Laslow, because I did the same thing on my Conquest run-through. If you want Rhajat to have the hair color of Tharja and the same classing as her then Hayato X Nyx is where you need to go with that one. Forrest would be okay with a higher speed so he has a better chance of dodging since he is just a healer at first. I don't advice marring Odin because Ophelia needs that luck so she has better crits and makes her that much better as a unit. If you want Midori to have outrageous speed then I guess Kaze, but I think it would be best not to with that crazy speed, likewise with Saizo and Asugi. I like Kaze with Kaegro not only because the support but you can end up with an OP Midori. Mine has Lethality, and maybe Sol(but I got that skill from my castle) and that makes Midori an amazing unit all around. If there's anyone else you are curious about let me know

I really want to do the same thing! But Laslow needs Falco class and the only one outside Azura who can give it to him is Selena. Should I have done Azura x Laslow? I saw that he hurts Shigure's speed and Defense even more than it already is so I didn't put them up together. Besides, no offense but Azura hair color looks off on most children to me. Only Sophie, Velouria, Selkie, Percy are okay with it, imo, and maybe Ignatius (only because I've seen Beruka!Ignatius almost everytime I went to other's castle, and Azura's color looks identical on him).

I was about to do Hayato x Nyx/Orochi too! I did Sakura at first because their supports are cute and later on Rhajat turned out okay, but I still prefer dark hair Rhajat.

Forrest is Leo's daughter right? I mean, son. *cough* Due to my -Luck, Forrest will have one negative point in magic. He eventually gets nothing from the MU other than some speed and skill. The Nobles don't work well on him due to his bad Str I assume?

Honestly, there were times when I forgot that Forrest can't be a witch.

About Ophelia, I thought that crit chance is determined by Skill, and Luck affects the opponent's crit chance on the unit?

I'm kinda curious about FeMU on Siegbert and Shiro, and maybe Iggy like @Experiment 626 said above, if not too much of a trouble. Thank you!

In my order. . .

Takumi - His pool is. . .depressing. His best shot, IMO, is your avatar - Kana can be a debuffing Sniper or something. If you absolutely reject that pairing based on your personal preferences, your next-best bet is Setsuna.

Ryoma - If you didn't use Setsuna on Takumi, put her here. Otherwise, use Mozu. It's strange, but I'll explain this in a bit. Also, Shiro doesn't really need a third class, because he's already got two great ones.

Odin - grab Orochi, and make an epic magical Ophelia.

Hayato - can have Nyx, so she can go back to being a Sorcerer. A somewhat inaccurate one, though, because her Skill's gonna be pretty bad (blame Hayato)

Leo - Felicia makes a pretty good Forrest, but the support chain blows. Peri makes for an amusing Forrest, if you really hate Felicia's supports.

Xander - Since we're running out of people, I'd pair him with Effie, for a giant Strength mod.

Benny - Rinkah makes a better Iggy tank than Beruka, IMO. Which is why Mozu went to Ryoma.

Silas - Turns out that Kagero works surprisingly well on Sophie.

Kaze - Even though Beruka means that Midori won't be doing a lot of raw damage, Poison Strike + Savage Blow should fix that. She works well as a Spy's Shuriken sniper with this build, because of a pretty good Skill mod.

Laslow - Not arguing with Selena!

Subaki - Eh, he can have Hinoka.

Saizo - If you didn't pair with Takumi, put your avatar here - Asugi ends up with Cavalier, and paired with Dragonic Hex (which isn't a bad thing to pass down IMO) and no negative defensive mods, he'll be pretty funny. Kana's going to be Saizo with better mods. Mozu works, if she's still free (though I'd pass down Quick Draw or Certain Blow because I'm insane like that).

I think that's everyone. That leaves one of Felicia/Peri in the dust. Not that either of them mind, since you're on Lunatic in Revelations.

Oh wow thank you so much for your guidance! It really does help a lot!

So ummm I think I'll pair my Units like this, based on you all's suggestion:

• Silas x Kagero
• Kaze x Beruka
• Ryoma x Mozu
• Takumi x Setsuna
• Saizo x Felicia maybe? For a Flameshuriken Asugi
• Subaki x Hinoka
• Hayato x Nyx
• Xander x Effie
• Leo x Peri
• Benny x Rinkah
• Laslow x Selena
• Odin x Orochi

Huh, that leaves my Corrin unmarried. Wouldn't anyone wants some speed? xD Is there anyone else should I switch out? Or readjust the plan? The ones I listed in black - I really like them, so maybe I won't change them.

As eclipse suggested, Takumi is.. er.. okay, but I'm not too fond of a debuffing sniper, especially on Kana because there would be too many Bow users (Takumi, Kana, Kiragi, Avatar, Nina) in one team. My Avatar is Adventurer shining bow, so is Nina. :(

I often switch my Avatar to Nohr/Hoshido Noble, or Spearmaster, or Dark Falcon (or classes that gives bonus speed) sometimes, but it'll still be too many.

I like Saizo! But it means wasting one whole class for both Saizo and Kana due to class overlap. I just remember that his son was Asugi. I have mixed feelings about MU x Saizo since Gaius was my Awakening's FeMU husband in a few playthrough when I'm not playing MaMU to marry Sumia. Do I have other choices that'd make MU's other kid good or Spd boon was a bad choice on my side?

Sorry for all of the questions :( I really appreciate all of your help.

[eclipse]

Huh, that leaves my Corrin unmarried. Wouldn't anyone wants some speed? xD Is there anyone else should I switch out? Or readjust the plan? The ones I listed in black - I really like them, so maybe I won't change them.

As eclipse suggested, Takumi is.. er.. okay, but I'm not too fond of a debuffing sniper, especially on Kana because there would be too many Bow users (Takumi, Kana, Kiragi, Avatar, Nina) in one team. My Avatar is Adventurer shining bow, so is Nina. :(

I often switch my Avatar to Nohr/Hoshido Noble, or Spearmaster, or Dark Falcon (or classes that gives bonus speed) sometimes, but it'll still be too many.

I like Saizo! But it means wasting one whole class for both Saizo and Kana due to class overlap. I just remember that his son was Asugi. I have mixed feelings about MU x Saizo since Gaius was my Awakening's FeMU husband in a few playthrough when I'm not playing MaMU to marry Sumia. Do I have other choices that'd make MU's other kid good or Spd boon was a bad choice on my side?

Sorry for all of the questions :( I really appreciate all of your help.

Hey, questions are GOOD. As long as the answer isn't two click away.

Anyway. . .most of the kids will appreciate the speed. Normally, this is where I'd plug Kaze, but your Avatar's got a negative Luck mod, and I'm not a fan of having one stat be huge for the sake of being huge. I THINK the class overlap means that marrying one of the ninja brothers will result in a Partner Seal class of Cavalier. Kana's SOL, though - he'll be stuck with CorrinClass/Ninja/Samurai. I'd go after someone who's got a really large offensive modifier (+2 or greater), and a low to negative Speed modifier. . .so that's a lot of people (more like, everyone that's not Kaze/Subaki/Niles/Benny).

If you really want insanity, I'd go with Shura. Kana's gonna have something like a +8 Speed modifier. Shura gets screwed out of a class, but bleh.

I guess this boils down to. . .what do you want out of Kana, class-wise?

[Lynn]

Hey, questions are GOOD. As long as the answer isn't two click away.

Anyway. . .most of the kids will appreciate the speed. Normally, this is where I'd plug Kaze, but your Avatar's got a negative Luck mod, and I'm not a fan of having one stat be huge for the sake of being huge. I THINK the class overlap means that marrying one of the ninja brothers will result in a Partner Seal class of Cavalier. Kana's SOL, though - he'll be stuck with CorrinClass/Ninja/Samurai. I'd go after someone who's got a really large offensive modifier (+2 or greater), and a low to negative Speed modifier. . .so that's a lot of people (more like, everyone that's not Kaze/Subaki/Niles/Benny).

If you really want insanity, I'd go with Shura. Kana's gonna have something like a +8 Speed modifier. Shura gets screwed out of a class, but bleh.

I guess this boils down to. . .what do you want out of Kana, class-wise?

Thank you so much for being patient with me!

I think Kaze's -2 Str mod might hurt too, and Midori might not like my -Lck. Oh wow, I didn't know it works like that if class overlaps, it's actually pretty convenient!

As for Kana, I quite like how feKana turned out in my previous playthroughs, although I never tried Kana 3rd gen so I can't say she was good, but enough for me that's all I ask. I made her a Paladin for post-game / pvp, and Swordmaster for Storymode, quite typical I guess :D Tbh I haven't experienced much, I'm not sure which would be good, but I guess Hoshido Noble/Paladin/Swordmaster/Hero/Master Ninja works well for physical, and Dark Falcon for magical Kana (the Levin sword/bolt naginata option is still there as well!). If the class that sync well with the mod isn't available, I still have Lodestar, Vanguard and Dread Fighter scrolls saved up.

I'm sorry if that's a bit vague, but I mean I can manage to work around Kana anyway depends on his mod because I like Kanas very much! I'm more inclined to a physical one, more so to Paladin since it's a really well-rounded class that gives +1 movement when paired up, but if it's not available the other classes I listed are really nice too! I haven't tried magical Kana before, but if Forrest turns out well I don't mind giving it a try. My worry is that my Avatar offers only Spd and Skl and no Magic, if that ruins him it'd be pretty sad :( That said I'm looking to give my Avatar's stat and class away to help the other kid and spouse, Kana, at the very least, still have backups from Noble class :D (Unless his mods and growths are hopelessly hopeless and can't be saved.)

[Sinnohborn]

I'm pretty sure Laslow gets nothing from Selena like how takumi gets nothing from Oboro. Siegbert gives kana a +5 in str and Spd with your boon/bane as well as cavalier for paladin

[Lynn]

Indeed Takumi gets nothing from Oboro. But... isn't Laslow get Falcon Knight from Selena? The class works really well for him as a Falco rally bot?

Thank you for your suggestion but I really don't feel like marrying gen 2 for the awkward reason as stated >_<

[KP Joey]

I agree with marrying Saizo to give Asugi Cavalier access. You could give Fuga ninja access (if he doesn't have it already LOL), too?

​Laslow gets pegasus knight from Selena, yes.

[Sinnohborn]

Takumi gets Lance fighter which is his secondary and Laslow gets mercenary which is his base. Sorry :/ you seemed pretty set on Selena x Laslow for that reason so I thought I'd tell you in case you wanted to change it

[Lynn]

I agree with marrying Saizo to give Asugi Cavalier access. You could give Fuga ninja access (if he doesn't have it already LOL), too?

​Laslow gets pegasus knight from Selena, yes.

Noooo Fuga pleaseeee. He's like, Corrin's father age! He always talks about how he was close friend with Sumeragi, which is pretty wrong for me if I decide to pair them uppp.

Thank you so much! Next to Saizo, who would be the next best, if I may ask?

Takumi gets Lance fighter which is his secondary and Laslow gets mercenary which is his base. Sorry :/ you seemed pretty set on Selena x Laslow for that reason so I thought I'd tell you in case you wanted to change it

Actually I would definitely do Laslow x Peri if it wasn't for Falcon Knight rally bot. IIRC, Laslow gets Selena's secondary class - Sky Knight, promotes to Falcon Knight.

And no please don't misunderstand me, I really do appreciate your opinion! I'm just pretty sure that Laslow gets Sky Knight. He gets it from Azura or Selena or Avatar Sky Knight talent.

[Sinnohborn]

And no please don't misunderstand me, I really do appreciate your opinion! I'm just pretty sure that Laslow gets Sky Knight. He gets it from Azura or Selena or Avatar Sky Knight talent.

Okay yeah from my quick research I seems you're right! Sorry about that!

[astrophys]

I'm pretty sure Laslow gets nothing from Selena like how takumi gets nothing from Oboro. Siegbert gives kana a +5 in str and Spd with your boon/bane as well as cavalier for paladin

Incorrect. Laslow does get something. They are not equivalent cases to Takumi x Oboro.

If a character has a different primary class from their spouse, they get their spouse's primary, regardless of whether or not they already have that as their secondary.

If a character and their spouse have identical primaries, they get each other's secondaries instead.

For Oboro and Takumi:

Takumi gains nothing from Oboro (his primary is Archer, not Spear Fighter, so he tries to grab it, only to get nothing because its already his secondary). But Oboro gets Archer from Takumi because she doesn't have it and its a different primary on Takumi than her own primary.

For Laslow and Selena, they trigger the identical primary rule, so they get each other's secondaries. Laslow gets Sky Knight; Selena gets Ninja.

[eclipse]

Thank you so much for being patient with me!

I think Kaze's -2 Str mod might hurt too, and Midori might not like my -Lck. Oh wow, I didn't know it works like that if class overlaps, it's actually pretty convenient!

As for Kana, I quite like how feKana turned out in my previous playthroughs, although I never tried Kana 3rd gen so I can't say she was good, but enough for me that's all I ask. I made her a Paladin for post-game / pvp, and Swordmaster for Storymode, quite typical I guess :D Tbh I haven't experienced much, I'm not sure which would be good, but I guess Hoshido Noble/Paladin/Swordmaster/Hero/Master Ninja works well for physical, and Dark Falcon for magical Kana (the Levin sword/bolt naginata option is still there as well!). If the class that sync well with the mod isn't available, I still have Lodestar, Vanguard and Dread Fighter scrolls saved up.

I'm sorry if that's a bit vague, but I mean I can manage to work around Kana anyway depends on his mod because I like Kanas very much! I'm more inclined to a physical one, more so to Paladin since it's a really well-rounded class that gives +1 movement when paired up, but if it's not available the other classes I listed are really nice too! I haven't tried magical Kana before, but if Forrest turns out well I don't mind giving it a try. My worry is that my Avatar offers only Spd and Skl and no Magic, if that ruins him it'd be pretty sad :( That said I'm looking to give my Avatar's stat and class away to help the other kid and spouse, Kana, at the very least, still have backups from Noble class :D (Unless his mods and growths are hopelessly hopeless and can't be saved.)

Kana can get Paladin via A+ with Siegbert, so no need to worry about that!

If you want a physical Kana, try out a physical husband. . .but not Benny, because his mods are kinda weird like that. For someone that's pure physical, you'll probably want a father with at least +2 Strength (since your avatar has a negative Strength mod). That leaves Azama/Keaton/Xander/Fuga/Jakob. Dunno how you feel about those guys, though, since I really don't like sibling pairs, or Azama.

I'd stay away from a magical Kana, because the only pairing I'd even think of attempting with that is Leo (who has better options).