Ebony Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Might as well list the pairings I did in my magnum opus run. Corrin x Laslow Azura x Keaton Jakob x Selena Kaze x Mozu Silas x Hana Ryoma x Elise Takumi x Camilla Xander x Hinoka Leo x Sakura Saizo x Beruka Azama x Effie Hinata x Peri Tsubaki x Nyx Kaden x Charlotte Hayato x Felicia Odin x Orochi Niles x Oboro Arthur x Kagero Benny x Rinkah ... so i can give opinions on these pairings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactician Robin Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 ^How did Kaden X Charlotte work out? I'm having a really hard time pairing him off in Revelations, so I'm trying to collect some feedback. Also, if anyone else has a good support for Kaden in Revelations, please share. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageOfAnys Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Xander x Hinoka Saizo x Beruka Azama x Effie Benny x Rinkah ... so i can give opinions on these pairings. How did these pairings end up for you in terms of both children and combat-synergy? I don't really plan on using the children in the story, but I'll probably mess with them a lot in some of the DLC maps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 How did these pairings end up for you in terms of both children and combat-synergy? I don't really plan on using the children in the story, but I'll probably mess with them a lot in some of the DLC maps. Xander x Hinoka - A really good Siegbert. I'd dare say the best. The two of them work pretty well together too. Hinoka gives him a Lance using class, Hinoka gets a class that also uses Lances. I got her Luna. imo probably Seig's best aside from maybe Charlotte x Xander. Saizo x Beruka - Asugi gets proc activates 4 days due to his good skill. It's kind of average though - Saizo gets Malig Knight which I put him in due to his decent magic growths. I don't say I recommend it though because these were also somewhat pairing the spades. Azama x Effie - STRONGEST Mitama. If you don't get Berserker on Azama via friend seal (get it though) it at least gets him Great Knight. Imo they have some good synergy together. Benny x Rinkah - Also a pair the spades but Ignatius cannot be damaged by physical attacks. Ever. ^How did Kaden X Charlotte work out? I'm having a really hard time pairing him off in Revelations, so I'm trying to collect some feedback. Also, if anyone else has a good support for Kaden in Revelations, please share. :) Pretty good - though if you want another girl and give Charlotte to someone else (she has really good mods, on Selkie it's a +5 to speed and strength), Setsuna is also a decent choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxachronc Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I went for : Avatar x Velouria Kaden x Azura Kaze x Setsuna Silas x Oboro Jakob x Hinoka Ryouma x Rinkah Takumi x Hana Saizo x Sakura Kagero x Hinata Azama x Mozu Subaki x Selena Hayato x Orochi Xander x Charlotte Leo x Felicia Benny x Beruka Keaton x Effie Arthur x Peri Odin x Elise Laslow x Camilla Niles x Nyx So I can help with those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactician Robin Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Pretty good - though if you want another girl and give Charlotte to someone else (she has really good mods, on Selkie it's a +5 to speed and strength), Setsuna is also a decent choice. Hmmm, Setsuna might be a good option, as she still is open. I'd probably have to make Selkie more reliant on her skill, since I'm guessing that's what Setsuna gives her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrophys Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) On a separate thread, I got a suggestion to switch around two of the pairings that I was brainstorming: Takumi x Oboro; Hana x Hisame ----> Takumi x Hana; Hisame x Oboro That was the suggestion. Do you agree with the suggestion? Assuming I take the suggestion, this is what my pairings would be (see in spoiler tagged box) What do you think? Edited May 1, 2016 by astrophys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Hmmm, Setsuna might be a good option, as she still is open. I'd probably have to make Selkie more reliant on her skill, since I'm guessing that's what Setsuna gives her. Yes. More skill and speed for less attack. So its really up to you for this. Setsuna and Charlotte are both good imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageOfAnys Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Xander x Hinoka - A really good Siegbert. I'd dare say the best. The two of them work pretty well together too. Hinoka gives him a Lance using class, Hinoka gets a class that also uses Lances. I got her Luna. imo probably Seig's best aside from maybe Charlotte x Xander. Saizo x Beruka - Asugi gets proc activates 4 days due to his good skill. It's kind of average though - Saizo gets Malig Knight which I put him in due to his decent magic growths. I don't say I recommend it though because these were also somewhat pairing the spades. Azama x Effie - STRONGEST Mitama. If you don't get Berserker on Azama via friend seal (get it though) it at least gets him Great Knight. Imo they have some good synergy together. Benny x Rinkah - Also a pair the spades but Ignatius cannot be damaged by physical attacks. Ever. Thanks for the opinion! Nice knowing one of my OTPs is actually good :P Also what would the general opinion be for a Felicia!Selkie? I know her strength suffers a bit and her magic is boosted a little, getting +3 mod, but I just want to know what to expect when using her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrophys Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) Isn't Selkie's default STR personal growth only 30% or so, and Felicia's 10%…. You'd push her down into Setsuna levels of STR growth…. without Quick Draw or Bowfaire to back it up…. On the bright side, Tomebreaker. Edited May 1, 2016 by astrophys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) I want to do Nina X Corrin on Revelations, but I need a good father for Nina and a Boon/Bane for Corrin. This is for Post-Game/PVP with Statues, Eternal Seals, Skill Buying, and Grinding all in the mix. I like the way Azura!Nina looks, but Setsuna!Nina is the same with better defense, and Nyx! Nina with a +Magic, -Def Avatar actually nets you +8 Magic and +8 Speed mods on Kana! Also, is there anyway to make Selena!Caeldori work? It feels like Caeldori's mods are doomed to be mediocre no matter what. Her Speed and Strength are abysmal, but her primary class access and growths are supposed to be physical. Edited May 1, 2016 by Lucina's Husband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrophys Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I've done a Revelation Selena!Caeldori. As a caveat, I did do grinding in the Revelation route, although I didn't use use anything that couldn't be found on the base Special Edition cartridge and I kept everyone restricted to within 20/20. (So this is not a maxed unit). Caeldori's SPD is pretty fine growth wise, and she does still get a +1 SPD modifier as Selena's daughter. For fixing her STR, the trick is to stack her with damage booster skills that don't interact with her STR and MAG (so you can use them and Prodigy together for some major stacking). She has intrinsic access to Swordfaire, and she can get Lancefaire or Bowfaire from some potential partners, plus she can grab Tomefaire (somewhat impractical with her low magic) from Rhajat or Mitama. So pick a -faire She can friendship with Sophie's Cavalier class to get Elbow Room. If you have Selena A+ with Setsuna and learn Quick Draw first, she can pass that down to Caeldori. So what I might suggest for a Selena!Caeldori might look like this: 0. Prodigy 1. Weaponfaire (Swordfaire, or Lancefaire or Bowfaire from possible husbands) 2. Elbow Room (from A+ Sophie) 3. Quick Draw (from Selena A+ Setsuna learning the skill and passing it down in inheritance) 4. Luna (from A+ Sophie) OR Astra (always has access to this) 5. Darting Blow If all of Prodigy, the weapon faire, Elbow Room, and Quick Draw activate, you get 4+5+3+4 = 16 extra damage added to her attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I want to do Nina X Corrin on Revelations, but I need a good father for Nina and a Boon/Bane for Corrin. This is for Post-Game/PVP with Statues, Eternal Seals, Skill Buying, and Grinding all in the mix. I like the way Azura!Nina looks, but Setsuna!Nina is the same with better defense, and Nyx! Nina with a +Magic, -Def Avatar actually nets you +8 Magic and +8 Speed mods on Kana! Also, is there anyway to make Selena!Caeldori work? It feels like Caeldori's mods are doomed to be mediocre no matter what. Her Speed and Strength are abysmal, but her primary class access and growths are supposed to be physical. You mean mom, right? Personally I prefer Azura!Nina or Nyx!Nina. I'm leaning Nyx!Nina with the +Mag, -Def Avatar. Lets her be wicked with a Shining Bow or a good Onmyoji. Selena!Caeldori... ehh... maybe Trueblade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saisymbolic Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 My pairings for Revelations: Femorrinmui x Ryoma Xander x Mozu Leo x Felicia Takumi x Kagero Saizou x Charlotte Kaze x Azura Hayato x Sakura Odin x Orochi Benny x Oboro Jakob x Elise Hinata x Selena Tsubaki x Nyx Arthur x Peri Azama x Rinka Niles x Setsuna Keaton x Effie Kaden x Hinoka Silas x Beruka Laslow x Hana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I've done a Revelation Selena!Caeldori. As a caveat, I did do grinding in the Revelation route, although I didn't use use anything that couldn't be found on the base Special Edition cartridge and I kept everyone restricted to within 20/20. (So this is not a maxed unit). Caeldori's SPD is pretty fine growth wise, and she does still get a +1 SPD modifier as Selena's daughter. For fixing her STR, the trick is to stack her with damage booster skills that don't interact with her STR and MAG (so you can use them and Prodigy together for some major stacking). She has intrinsic access to Swordfaire, and she can get Lancefaire or Bowfaire from some potential partners, plus she can grab Tomefaire (somewhat impractical with her low magic) from Rhajat or Mitama. So pick a -faire She can friendship with Sophie's Cavalier class to get Elbow Room. If you have Selena A+ with Setsuna and learn Quick Draw first, she can pass that down to Caeldori. So what I might suggest for a Selena!Caeldori might look like this: 0. Prodigy 1. Weaponfaire (Swordfaire, or Lancefaire or Bowfaire from possible husbands) 2. Elbow Room (from A+ Sophie) 3. Quick Draw (from Selena A+ Setsuna learning the skill and passing it down in inheritance) 4. Luna (from A+ Sophie) OR Astra (always has access to this) 5. Darting Blow If all of Prodigy, the weapon faire, Elbow Room, and Quick Draw activate, you get 4+5+3+4 = 16 extra damage added to her attacks. With Aptitude and a Magic class, can she make an okay Dark Flier? What's the best parent for her as a Falcon Knight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 With Aptitude and a Magic class, can she make an okay Dark Flier? What's the best parent for her as a Falcon Knight? For a Falcon Knight? I'd say probably... Hinoka or Oboro. I'm leaning Oboro tbh. Rinkah makes her a decent flying tank iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saisymbolic Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 With Aptitude and a Magic class, can she make an okay Dark Flier? What's the best parent for her as a Falcon Knight? I made her a Dark Flier with Nyx as mommy. She worked out very well for me. Aptitude essentially fixes up her growths, regardless of class. As for a Falcon Knight, I'd assume a mom that could give her more strength? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I made her a Dark Flier with Nyx as mommy. She worked out very well for me. Aptitude essentially fixes up her growths, regardless of class. As for a Falcon Knight, I'd assume a mom that could give her more strength? Also just saying, if you marry her to Shiro, she makes a good Basara too. Nyx!Caeldori that is. It's what I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saisymbolic Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Also just saying, if you marry her to Shiro, she makes a good Basara too. Nyx!Caeldori that is. It's what I did. I would try it but I just can't get down with that Cheetah print the Basara has going on. LOL. I might do it still, though. I have Hayato as a Basara so one more won't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I would try it but I just can't get down with that Cheetah print the Basara has going on. LOL. I might do it still, though. I have Hayato as a Basara so one more won't hurt. I am immune to its odd lookingness. And it helps with Dark Flier!Shiro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Oboro!Caeldori or Hinoka!Caeldori for Great Lord maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Oboro!Caeldori or Hinoka!Caeldori for Great Lord maybe? I recommend it. Caeldori is one of the better Great Lord choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxachronc Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) Selena!Caeldori is bad for maingame compared to other children, but for PVP her mods are usable, she really shines as a mixed unit, classes that their brave weapons cut STR in half coupled with magical weapons(Soldier Knife w/Flame Shuriken/Leo's Coldsword) or classes that can use physical weapons and tomes since that lets her get the most of her personal skill which is the main niche she has over the other kids. Master Ninja Caeldori is pretty good, her personal skill somewhat shines here because it will proc almost always. Dark Falcon Caeldori is also incredible, Selena does not lower her MAG cap and also gives her SPD mod, though her personal skill will not be proccing a lot with tomes it will do with lances. Tough for maingame Oboro and Hinoka are much better choices overall. Edited May 1, 2016 by Roxachronc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucina's Husband Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) Selena!Caeldori is bad for maingame compared to other children, but for PVP her mods are usable, she really shines as a mixed unit, classes that their brave weapons cut STR in half coupled with magical weapons(Soldier Knife w/Flame Shuriken/Leo's Coldsword) or classes that can use physical weapons and tomes since that lets her get the most of her personal skill which is the main niche she has over the other kids. Master Ninja Caeldori is pretty good, her personal skill somewhat shines here because it will proc almost always. Dark Falcon Caeldori is also incredible, Selena does not lower her MAG cap and also gives her SPD mod, though her personal skill will not be proccing a lot with tomes it will do with lances. Tough for maingame Oboro and Hinoka are much better choices overall. Wait, so Selena! Caeldori IS usable as a Dark Flier in PVP? That's great! Which skills and weapons will she want? Edited May 1, 2016 by Lucina's Husband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Wait, so Selena! Caeldori IS usable as a Dark Flier in PVP? That's great! Which skills and weapons will she want? I'd give her a Bolt Naginata. For weapon triangle and it works off of her better magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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