Video Gamers and Girls

[Tryhard]

After looking at some of the commentary made on comments about videos discussing the gaming communities' treatment of the opposite sex, I made some comments, and as a result of an irony to my behavior that downright borders on hypocrisy, I have decided that, okay, I should put in my 2 cents. Well, it's going to be more like 2 dollars when I'm done talking. But honestly, there's just plenty of things to talk about.

Let me summarize about the gender wars, since the underlying problem is with them: BOTH sides are guilty of simply asanine nonsense.

Starting with the guys, actually for reasons that ultimately boil down to being personal, you'll see why, but anyway, here's a basic general summary: guys oft want stimulation, certainly more than gals in general. This points to two things: why VGs is a general "boy's only club" as the vid put it, and why guys want girl pleasures so much. The latter point is particularly irksome, because it leads to a lot of problems.

The thing is, guys usually have better bodies than gals (the thing that causes the irony that provides interest in Savvy Guy Energetic Girl), and over 80-90% of the time, it is guaranteed that the guy can easily overpower the girl for his pleasure. This is counterbalanced by guys typically being not as smart, but that's painfully indirect, and I'm talking about a situation that likely demands being direct. Oh, and did I mention that the girl has to handle whatever expectations happens? ...yeah.

So the end result is that gals have to preempt that stupidity. Meanwhile, guys are easier to stereotype as savages, and it's not like they generally care. In fact, people of BOTH genders put excessive value in whether a guy is "hawt" and "4w3sum" based on shallow factors that only supports Sturgeon's Law. To any guy, if you don't care about girl pleasures, you will soon enough because of peer pressure.

Of course, while guys do definitely cause clearly unwarranted problems for pleasure, that doesn't mean the opposite sex should be let off the hook. They're pulling shenanigans that makes them just as bad. I understand that in comparison to guys, they're Squishy Wizards, but what they do is OTT. Trust me. I'm basically a Squishy Wizard myself, so I can sympathize at the very least, but girls, when you vent your problems on me, well, there's your reason why your motive makes your own crimes *WORSE*.

The manipulation that girls pull easily reaches outright callous levels. They pretend to be pleasant, while pulling some sadistic shenanigans for, at best, shallow reasons like caring so much about muscles or money. Oh God. Cut Lex Luthor A Check. Yes, they have no reason to NOT be pleasant. If they're worried so much about a situation getting out of hand, they should get creative. A guy is going to want either girl pleasures from any of the 3 billion fish in the sea, or the gal herself.

Now okay, the gals want to make sure that guys can't force themselves on them. I'm for that. But what is unacceptable is the unnecessary response. But then, that's easily explained...by MORE occurring unacceptable behavior: they're interested in pulling mocking behavior on guys. Yes, they're interested in that lunacy. It's not only hypocritical, it's surprisingly WORSE than wanting girl pleasures in and of itself. That at least can easily be a subconscious desire to provide affection.

I am not saying at all that females should do *NO* teasing in a relationship, but good Heavens, if you have NO interest in being in a relationship with the person, it's not funny. Treat the person with respect and dignity or you're asking for being treated with anything but.

Oh right. I forget: there's a lot of biased, hypocritical White Knighting jerkholes out there. To them, the man ALWAYS, *ALWAYS* deserves it. Simply because they don't have a certain biological difference from males. SIMPLY BECAUSE OF SOMETHING INVOLVING THEIR BIRTH.

Now maybe I sound rather sexist, and if I am overboard about it, I apologize, even though the mere videos I'm responding to is talking about the gender divide. But I had shown a video to somebody else within the comments to showcase some disgusting chauvinism by a guy that was posted in a message sent from the account of his....well, yes, the gist is that while making death threats, the guy actually called the girl HIS FREAKING PROPERTY, and the girl is clearly letting him on her account to make death threats as well, WITIDE.

It had me thinking, because it becomes insultingly easy to think I'm nice seeing as I'm charming when I want to be, but yes, I actually do harbor excess interest in girl pleasures, and I can be a jackhole too. Can I help it? Depends. Tell me if you can grow up having all 3 siblings being both female and older than you. Though granted, I end up being taught to treat girls with respect and dignity, and I actually appreciate it. Which makes me MORE upset that the chauvinistic stupidity is enabled AND rewarded.

And treating them like individuals? Want to know something? I have, for 14 years and counting, harbored a crush on an ironically named Genki Girl--whose mere introduction to me had actually outed herself as such. And honestly, I actually do miss her. I really do. Reason I don't do anything more than talk about this is because she rather decided to be icy when I had tried contacting her in more recent years. What a shame because what I saw was this vivacious cute gal, not some ice queen. It's confusing she could even be such because when I first knew her, I was already made aware of quirks of hers that made her intellectual laziness look tame, and they're not ice queen flaws, believe me.

...right. Point is, I'm not claiming I'm nice, but come on, I do still have my preferences and merits. The whole thing with the crush would be manageable if gals provided more genuine warmth more often.

To those who would at this point want to claim I don't care anyway, and considering all the stupidity I've been through with no end in sight I shouldn't, I doubt I would even be AWARE of the existence of "Video Games and the Female Audience" if I didn't, because the Extra Credits channel itself is commentary about...game design. *GASP* And yet here I am, saying stuff with no regard to being politically correct. Because, yanno, I totally don't want friends.

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And if the problem is that I am being a "busybody", then okay. You prefer I do nothing about the injustices both to and from the opposite sex? I'm sure you would really, really like it and not cause videos called things like "Video Games and the Female Audience" to be made.

That said, there's another subject that annoys me since Extra Credits also brought it up, and that's the behavior of gaming communities IN GENERAL, not just toward females by sending them demeaning messages such as telling them to "go back to the kitchen." That sort of stuff is self-explanatory, at least I would HOPE it would be. Let me summarize what Extra Credits talks about: gaming community members send things like the aforementioned "go back to the kitchen," "I hope you get breast cancer and die," "i hope you g-"....WAIT A MINUTE! The gaming community members are hypocrites! And they're sending these messages just to be sadist trash too!

So anyway, as I was saying, after the things that get said, EC talks about girls being treated like trash consequently making games anything but fun, which goes against THEIR VERY POINT, and that the excuses for the guys pulling that are stupid, and how beating trolls is going to require a coordinated effort, granted that I do question the exact ideas that EC comes up with, though they're better than nothing; and that the gaming culture is an open, accepting culture instead of riddled with trash. That last one brings up the irksome irony that I want to talk about.

See, the game communities have the misfortune of being plagued by many, many, MANY unpleasant and hypocritical characters. To provide some examples, first is the Fire Emblem failbase, having too many shallow twits and trolls who all do with each other what guys generally want to do with gals. Believe me, it's rampant. Then there's the Advance Wars communities. When they're not having cheap humor at others' expense such as singing songs mocking lust-induced murder victims like Matthew Pyke, they are doing things like deleting the likes of the Net Attack page from a Wiki because it's "not needed." I wish I was joking, but it's them who is doing it, and they're doing it in disgusting manners. There is one community that has cruel non-joking behavior going on: Smashboards, home of the incarnation of Stop Having Fun Guy slimeballs. Want to make a suggestion on how to rebalance a game they agree is imbalanced? Be prepared to be told that the Smashboards members like Jockmaster are normally not superagressive in debates but your self-righteousness and ignorance are literally making them laugh out loud, and that you are the cancer of Smash. Tell me that's self-explanatory. And my personal favorite, the Kid Icarus Uprising board on GameFAQs. You know how I complained about the slimy gits on the previous two? The KIU board has BOTH of those types. I even got called "subhuman" by everybody's favorite sociopath Ad Hominem-Kun AKA Raltrios, who provides a frankly hypocritical reason considering that he is claiming I am complaining about claws being given a natural trait when I complain about them not having proper checking.

And by all signs, that's just the start, as I hear complaints about the Sonic fanbase having trolls in a quantity like you wouldn't believe.

The point is, just because the gaming culture members are supposed to be the good guys doesn't mean they are. Not when so many of the members are no better than the likes of girl posses who give pleasure to the jerkholes as a reward for things like death threats rather than being anything genuinely nice, or those jerkholes in and of themselves. When it comes down to it, the gaming culture is about a form of media meant to focus on audience activity. The target audience has a mindset with an easy time acting dangerously close like sociopaths. Not that that's an excuse for the behavior of the likes of GipFace or Raltrios. Still, we the gaming culture are supposed to be the guys who are supposed to be open, awesome friends. Yet here we are at each other's throats in the name of pride.

Unfortunately, the gaming communities like to manage backwards, counterintuitive rewarding. The mere fact that the likes of GipFace and Raltrios are popular is disgusting. It means all you have to do is flex your e-muscles and boom, you can do no wrong, even when you mock dead people. That's beyond stupid. And this proves why ALL of the suggestions provided by Extra Credits for stopping online play harassment are bad: they enforce popular opinion without thinking it possibly a bad thing. The third one, making communication an unlockable, comes the closest to avoiding that issue, but even then, it has to be well-executed and exploit-proofed so that it can actually catch the actual sociopaths like GipFace, Raltrios, and Omega Tyrant even when they're high-functioning.

That's the thing: game companies only care about making these games and do not think to make sure that their games instill some worthwhile values in their players. And they're not the only ones to blame. Oh no. How about the players themselves? They decide that, hey, these games are perfectly balanced and whatnot. Let's not change a bloody thing. Never mind that Chess got rebalanced in a way that created a case of Savvy Guy Energetic Girl a full millenium after its inception. The mere fact that the players pull cruelty in the first place is on them too, and unfortunately, they think that what they do isn't sadism because they aren't punished.

There is hope, though. There are gamers who will do altruistic things for the benefit of others, or at the very least take responsibility for what they themselves do. They're the ones you should trust. But they are few and far between. And what we are dealing with is a classroom, that unfortunately doesn't even have group punishment like tear gas. And these aren't even kids, these are grown people. In order to fight back, we have to prove that their seeth-inducing cruelty is just them being nothing but monsters tarnishing the name of a culture that's supposed to be better than the stereotypical high school hierarchy.

All in all, this may sound hypocritical coming out of my mouth, but people need to learn to be more mature. It's not like it's impossible. A good OL friend of mine was called the nicest person on YouTube, and when he does things like responding to that with using a forest fire comparison to justify his usage of "two wrongs don't make a right", you can tell that's not an exaggeration.

*phew* Well, back to...well, being an Ultimate Gamer 386, I guess.

[I'm gay dabadeedabada]

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[Caster]

second

[Ken Masters]

Thirth

[Rezzy]

At work, so can't really go through the whole thing, but by girl pleasure, you mean sex, right?

I'll leave my full two cents when I'm at home and the change jar is handy.

[Tryhard]

At work, so can't really go through the whole thing, but by girl pleasure, you mean sex, right?

I'll leave my full two cents when I'm at home and the change jar is handy.

it's a copypasta, don't be thinking I wrote this

i'm not sure what 'girl pleasures' is

Edited October 4, 2016 by Tryhard

[Emeraldfox]

Where are the grits. I expected grits.

[sylveonzoroark]

tldr

[Specta]

are those tropes

[Ken Masters]

At work, so can't really go through the whole thing, but by girl pleasure, you mean sex, right?

I'll leave my full two cents when I'm at home and the change jar is handy.

Hey, you look like a decent person (so not a Far From the Forest usual), so I'll help you out :3

Rule 1 of Far From God's Light: if OP is longer than a paragraph, it's a copypasta.

Rule 2 of Far From God's Light: In case Rule number 1 isn't true, you answer with a copypasta

Hope I helped you out!

Edited October 4, 2016 by Spinal

[Caster]

tenth

Edited October 4, 2016 by Sophie

[Rezzy]

Hey, you look like a decent person (so not a Far From the Forest usual), so I'll help you out :3

Rule 1 of Far From God's Light: if OP is longer than a paragraph, it's a copypasta.

Rule 2 of Far From God's Light: In case Rule number 1 isn't true, you answer with a copypasta

Hope I helped you out!

I see, I've seen him posting in the feminism topic periodically, so I thought maybe it was related to that or a mod moved it here, or something.

[Specta]

Rule 1 of Far From God's Light: if OP is longer than a paragraph, it's a copypasta.

Rule 2 of Far From God's Light: In case Rule number 1 isn't true, you answer with a copypasta

hey those aren't our rules

[FrostyFireMage]

it's a copypasta, don't be thinking I wrote thisi'm not sure what 'girl pleasures' is

that's what tipped me off bc I'm 90% sure you're gay tbh

[Ken Masters]

hey those aren't our rules

Are you a true resident of Far From God's Light? HOW THOUGH ARE YOU??

[Specta]

Are you a true resident of Far From God's Light? HOW THOUGH ARE YOU??

how what

[Tryhard]

that's what tipped me off bc I'm 90% sure you're gay tbh

i'm not gay lol

[Thor Odinson]

my god where do all these copypastas even come from

I can't keep track of them these days

[Specta]

well they were 10% unsure, too

[Freohr Datia]

girl pleasures

[Res]

it's a copypasta, don't be thinking I wrote this

i'm not sure what 'girl pleasures' is

I'm glad it was a c&p because that was way too much effort to put into satire

I tried to read but my eyes were literally crossing 1/3rd of the way down

[Tryhard]

I'm glad it was a c&p because that was way too much effort to put into satire

I tried to read but my eyes were literally crossing 1/3rd of the way down

it was a real person saying real things that he believed though, I just called it a copypasta because it was just a copy paste from a pastebin Edited October 4, 2016 by Tryhard

[Chen]

i love girl pleasures ;)

[Ebony]

girl pleasures are things that happen in the vagina bones

[claire]

.........who wrote this