Eruno Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 The title speaks for itself, kind of puzzled by the lack of playable bow cavaliers in this game (if there's any). They could've used the opportunity to add some nomads at the previous FE7 summoning focus. (well, nomads and bow cavaliers are technically the same). So, any ideas why they haven't added a playable bow cavalier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Bow cavaliers will be incredibly OP, judging by the training tower examples. Wolf, Sedgar, Roberto, Midir, Lester, Deimne, (Andrey, Scipio), Selphina, Robert, Sue, Sin, Dayan, Rath, (Uhai), Hayden, Astrid. That's it for mounted archers in the games, right? Counting only base classes, of course. Edited April 25, 2017 by Vaximillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eruno Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 yes, i think. they should make them with a decrease in base stats or growths so they aren't too OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Chao Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Give me Rath or Wolf and I will be a happy fangirl... ish... xD Those are two characters I particularly want, though I won't say no to Midir or Shin ^.^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 There also aren't many playable bow cavaliers in general, I suppose. The only ones I can think of are Astrid, Rath, Sue, and Shin. And three of those are Elibe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Anacybele said: There also aren't many playable bow cavaliers in general, I suppose. The only ones I can think of are Astrid, Rath, Sue, and Shin. And three of those are Elibe. I literally listed all the playable horse archers (and three unplayable ones) in the first response to the OP ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (except the reclass-able and alternative promoted people) Edited April 25, 2017 by Vaximillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestFriendJ0 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 They'll come eventually, the fact that the enemy has them and we don't is a guarantee we will eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Vaximillian said: I literally listed all the playable horse archers (and three unplayable ones) in the first response to the OP ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (except the reclass-able and alternative promoted people) It wasn't there when I posted. You edited it after. Sorry, geez... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Anacybele said: It wasn't there when I posted. You edited it after. Sorry, geez... It's been there since an hour ago, actually. That's all fine anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Vaximillian said: It's been there since an hour ago, actually. That's all fine anyway. ...No, it hasn't. My post was made 11 minutes ago. Your edit was 4 minutes ago. According to what the posts say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Anacybele said: ...No, it hasn't. My post was made 11 minutes ago. Your edit was 4 minutes ago. According to what the posts say. I rememberd Uhai and edited him in, that's what happened 4 minutes ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Vaximillian said: I rememberd Uhai and edited him in, that's what happened 4 minutes ago. Oh. Well I still somehow missed your list entirely, but unintentionally, so again, sorry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magical Glace Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Vaximillian said: Bow cavaliers will be incredibly OP, judging by the training tower examples. Wolf, Sedgar, Roberto, Midir, Lester, Deimne, (Andrey, Scipio), Selphina, Robert, Sue, Sin, Dayan, Rath, (Uhai), Astrid. That's it for mounted archers in the games, right? Counting only base classes, of course. The King of Frelia, Hayden, is a Ranger at base, but since he's Creature Campaign only idk if he counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Anacybele said: Oh. Well I still somehow missed your list entirely, but unintentionally, so again, sorry about that. As I said, it's fine. Just now, Glaceon Mage said: The King of Frelia, Hayden, is a Ranger at base, but since he's Creature Campaign only idk if he counts. Oh, he technically is playable. Got to fix the list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Hayden from Sacred Stones creature campaign. But that's really scraping the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eruno Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 30 minutes ago, Glaceon Mage said: The King of Frelia, Hayden, is a Ranger at base, but since he's Creature Campaign only idk if he counts. A little humor, i love how Hayden is described as a 'Sage King' while his base class is a Ranger XD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Vaximillian said: Bow cavaliers will be incredibly OP, judging by the training tower examples. Wolf, Sedgar, Roberto, Midir, Lester, Deimne, (Andrey, Scipio), Selphina, Robert, Sue, Sin, Dayan, Rath, (Uhai), Hayden, Astrid. That's it for mounted archers in the games, right? Counting only base classes, of course. I don't see how they'd be any more OP than mage cavaliers. I honestly don't see any future bow knights coming close to Reinhardt's current level of ridiculousness as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MaskedAmpharos said: I don't see how they'd be any more OP than mage cavaliers. I honestly don't see any future bow knights coming close to Reinhardt's current level of ridiculousness as it is. Good point, right here. Hmm. I just had a quick thought about brave bow Midir/Lester but Def usually higher than Res. Edited April 25, 2017 by Vaximillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkinspice48 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) I think mages in general are better ranged units that archers because a lot of the stronger units have low res and a lot people go for -res boon/banes. They can also get crazy amounts of damage thanks to the blade tomes. But mounted archers do have the advantage in that they could inherit brave bows, while brave tomes are restricted to Reinhardt and Olwen. Also aside from raven tomes they don't have to worry about the weapon triangle. Edited April 25, 2017 by pumpkinspice48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Maybe if Shin comes in with a really high attack stat he can be a total terror with a brave bow just like Reinhardt is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eruno Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 looking at the Bow Cavaliers from the Training Tower (Lv 38 and 3*), they have 47 Atk + 13 from the Silver Bow, which is quite high. Below average speed, at 16. and equally average Def and Res at 21 and 22 so yes, they can be OP from just their stat. (Again, this is an enemy from the Training Tower) . Let alone if they have skill like Vantage or Close Counter. If they going to add playable bow cavaliers, they need to decrease the base stats or growths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Eruno said: looking at the Bow Cavaliers from the Training Tower (Lv 38 and 3*), they have 47 Atk + 13 from the Silver Bow, which is quite high. Below average speed, at 16. and equally average Def and Res at 21 and 22 so yes, they can be OP from just their stat. (Again, this is an enemy from the Training Tower) . Let alone if they have skill like Vantage or Close Counter. If they going to add playable bow cavaliers, they need to decrease the base stats or growths. Due to how Heroes's stat system works, it's almost guaranteed that playable mounted archers will have a 5-star level-40 stat total around 145. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: Due to how Heroes's stat system works, it's almost guaranteed that playable mounted archers will have a 5-star level-40 stat total around 145. 30 HP 75 Attack 20 Spd 15 Def 15 Res I don't see a problem here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, Silith13 said: 30 HP 75 Attack 20 Spd 15 Def 15 Res I don't see a problem here. That's 155. You're 10 over. That's a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eruno Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, Silith13 said: 30 HP 75 Attack 20 Spd 15 Def 15 Res I don't see a problem here. 40 HP 55 Attack 20 Spd 15 Def 15 Res Seems plausible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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