YokaiKnight Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Possibly the most blunt ignorant hateful thing I have read on this forum...You can't just tell people not to do something then expect them to see your way, and accept it. You can't TELL people to be heterosexual. I certainly won't be heterosexual just because you tell me to. I think you just got trolled, Cynthia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Possibly the most blunt ignorant hateful thing I have read on this forum...You can't just tell people not to do something then expect them to see your way, and accept it. You can't TELL people to be heterosexual. I certainly won't be heterosexual just because you tell me to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I'll give you that, but even you can't be above hate always.On another note, it's cool that you have such high faith in man's goodness. I believe in it, but it never suprises me when I don't see it. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in Humanities goodness either. That's my point. Good and evil are all just perspectives. That is to say, it is objective and scientific fact that good and evil are entirely subjective and based on opinion. :P A bit convoluted, eh? I don't think humanity naturally is good, neither do I think it is evil. People are just people. Each individual person will form a different perspective on what "good" and "evil" are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in Humanities goodness either. That's my point. Good and evil are all just perspectives. That is to say, it is objective and scientific fact that good and evil are entirely subjective and based on opinion. :P A bit convoluted, eh? I don't think humanity naturally is good, neither do I think it is evil. People are just people. Each individual person will form a different perspective on what "good" and "evil" are. Then... there's no reason to continue debating. We can't change the other's views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Then... there's no reason to continue debating. We can't change the other's views. Huh? That wasn't what I was trying to say at all. My original intention was to point out to you that throughout history almost every person was doing what they thought was right, and most of them where just trying to drift through life, so calling people "inherently evil" is a bit of a silly statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Huh? That wasn't what I was trying to say at all. My original intention was to point out to you that throughout history almost every person was doing what they thought was right, and most of them where just trying to drift through life, so calling people "inherently evil" is a bit of a silly statement. :3 You lost me there. While you it might not be right to group everyone together, it doesn't stop it from happening. There is such a thing as majority, and majority of a populace and in society they dictate what is right or wrong. In the case of dictator's and kings they just decide for the majority. I was gonna say that I don't think it's right either, but according to your logic nothing is right or wrong. Philosophy is one thing, reality is another... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 :3You lost me there. While you it might not be right to group everyone together, it doesn't stop it from happening. There is such a thing as majority, and majority of a populace and in society they dictate what is right or wrong. In the case of dictator's and kings they just decide for the majority. I was gonna say that I don't think it's right either, but according to your logic nothing is right or wrong. Philosophy is one thing, reality is another... That's kind of my point there. Because morals are subjective, the majority of people will of course dictate them. What I'm trying to say is that morals and ethics in general are entirely dependent on the person. They exist only in philosophy, not in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Will knowing that change anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Will knowing that change anything? Knowing that should, I believe. With the understanding that peoples morals and ethics are entirely subjective, you gain a greater understanding of others, and a greater all around knowledge. If you know that people have a reason for doing things, than you are less likely to hate or dislike them. Any knowledge can change something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Knowing that should, I believe. With the understanding that peoples morals and ethics are entirely subjective, you gain a greater understanding of others, and a greater all around knowledge. If you know that people have a reason for doing things, than you are less likely to hate or dislike them. Any knowledge can change something. Knowing is pointless if you don't practice it. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I think you just got trolled, Cynthia. I'm well aware of what trolls do and who is a troll, and who isn't but honestly such ignorant statements shouldn't be made even for trolling purposes. I honestly don't care about if people are trolling or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Knowing is pointless if you don't practice it. :P ?? I don't see what you mean. If I know that morals and such are subjective, and that people are doing what they think is right, then I'm less likely to hate or dislike someone for their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I am sorry if this offends anybody but i am glad this was passed, i don't care if you are gay or not, but marriage is the bond between a man and a woman, not a man and a man, or other way around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I am sorry if this offends anybody but i am glad this was passed, i don't care if you are gay or not, but marriage is the bond between a man and a woman, not a man and a man, or other way around I feel sorry for you dude.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I am sorry if this offends anybody but i am glad this was passed, i don't care if you are gay or not, but marriage is the bond between a man and a woman, not a man and a man, or other way around Says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) I am sorry if this offends anybody but i am glad this was passed, i don't care if you are gay or not, but marriage is the bond between a man and a woman, not a man and a man, or other way around Can a man and a man not love each other? Or a woman and a woman? Do they need to modify their bodies to have sex? You stated no reason WHY. What ever happened to the land of the free? To equal rights to all men and women? What to all of that? Edited November 10, 2008 by Cynthia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) I'm well aware of what trolls do and who is a troll, and who isn't but honestly such ignorant statements shouldn't be made even for trolling purposes.I honestly don't care about if people are trolling or not. That's fine and dandy, but trolls like those sorts of responses. You are feeding it, no matter how well intended you were. It's better to mark it and ignore it. If you feel the need to talk about it, message someone. ?? I don't see what you mean. If I know that morals and such are subjective, and that people are doing what they think is right, then I'm less likely to hate or dislike someone for their actions. My question is do you acknowledge (not accept) my view? I am sorry if this offends anybody but i am glad this was passed, i don't care if you are gay or not, but marriage is the bond between a man and a woman, not a man and a man, or other way around You're entitled to your opinion. Edited November 10, 2008 by Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Can a man and a man not love each other? Or a woman and a woman?Do they need to modify their bodies to have sex? You stated no reason WHY. He doesn't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Says who? God, the government, me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) He doesn't have to. Okay, so Adam, I think you should turn your computer off and never come back here again, and never use the internet for as long as you live. I need no reason, so go do it. God, the government, me God and you do not make the laws. What about freedom of religion? What if I don't want to follow your religion? Why should I follow your religion's rules then? Sorry but you need a stronger point than that. More people were killed in the name of God than anything else, so you can't say people doing things in the name of God is always right. Edited November 10, 2008 by Cynthia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Rabbit Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 God, the government, me Unless you want to debate these people, I suggest you not egg them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 God, the government, me God is irrelevant, you have no say in it and the government could be alot better right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Unless you want to debate these people, I suggest you not egg them on. Agreed. This is something so pointless to argue about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I'll be brief: There's no valid reason for why Gay marriage should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Unless you want to debate these people, I suggest you not egg them on. I don't want to, I am not egging them on, I am stating what I think God is irrelevant, you have no say in it and the government could be alot better right now How is he irrelevant? Is he only suppose to matter when you need something and when you don't agree when with something he says he is irrelevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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