Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Absence of evidence either way means only one thing. Still irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 And not a single one is being discussed. So we're all idiots for continuing to post in the topic. Let's start with you. And please, don't bring God into this, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Still irrelevant. How is something being impossible to prove irrelevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I wasn't bringing God into it. Merely stating that the situation is no different. No proof on either side, with neither side willing to argue with their heads out of their ass because neither side has nothing. Ultimately creating an underlying tension. How is something being impossible to prove irrelevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) How is something being impossible to prove irrelevant? Because we aren't discussing what's impossible to prove. We're focusing on what IS possible to prove, and there are things. However, you are all focusing on one simplistic moral theory which is flawed in so many ways it's not funny. I'll prove it when I get home later and have the time. Edited November 20, 2008 by Crystal Shards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Because we aren't discussing what's impossible to prove. We're focusing on what IS possible to prove, and there are things. However, you are all focusing on one simplistic moral theory which is flawed in so many ways it's not funny. I'll prove it when I get home later and have the time. To be fair, we're discussing nothing. It's your opinion, amirite? I personally don't see the point in caring whether or not exists, which makes me the perfect irrational person to argue devils advocate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) *sigh* No it's not my fucking opinion. There are several theories of moral relativity. The point isn't whether God exists or not. Period. How that came up I don't even know but it's a moot point and whoever decides to bring it up again is seriously an idiot. The discussion is on whether evil exists, what is evil, etc. It's not an "opinion"--people smarter than you have actually thought this shit out and laid it in out in logical progression. Edited November 20, 2008 by Crystal Shards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Good and evil, for the last time, are opinion. You do not dictate what is what for the universe, sorry to break it to you. There is the fact that it is subjectively opinionated, and that people try to argue with that. *sigh* No it's not my fucking opinion. There are several theories of moral relativity. The point isn't whether God exists or not. Period. How that came up I don't even know but it's a moot point and whoever decides to bring it up again is seriously an idiot. The discussion is on whether evil exists, what is evil, etc. It's not an "opinion"--people smarter than you have actually thought this shit out and laid it in out in logical progression. So it's someone else opinion and you're their. . . tool? You clearly missed my point when I brought up God. It's the same situation. If you can prove that God doesn't exist, than you can prove the same of this moral construct. We'll ignore when I said good and evil are moral constructs for the sake of arguments. I felt your insult to my intelligence was petty and pretentious. These qualities are truly the bane of evil showing within you. Prove me wrong, sweetheart. Edited November 20, 2008 by bunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) I am no one's tool. I, however, am capable of understanding that there are different theories out there and would be willing t o discuss them when I'm not actually at work. I didn't miss your point; I find it irrelevant. Yay for repeating myself over and over again. I don't care what you feel about my posts. And don't call me sweetheart. I'm not your girlfriend. Edited November 20, 2008 by Crystal Shards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I find it irrelevant But relevance is subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 ...No it's not. If I say, "Monkeys!" it's logically not relevant. For Christ's sake quit trying to use the easy way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 ...No it's not. If I say, "Monkeys!" it's logically not relevant. For Christ's sake quit trying to use the easy way out. It's not the easy way out. It's the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 No, it's the easy way out. It's the thing you say when you don't want to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 For what it's worth, relevance is subjective to who is judging it's relevance. Your example was poor because you assume that just because everyone will agree it's irrelevant doesn't make relevance subjective. Furthermore, prove the point wrong. Oh shit. We've been there, done that. You feel it goes one way I feel it's another way. The difference is that only one person can be right in this situation. It's not as simple as saying that something that can or can't be proved isn't real and feeling you're a bigger person for 'knowing' it's right. I posted in the topic to see how people felt on the situation. It's been revealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Don't mean to be off-topic, but are you really 8 years old? No, it's a long running joke between myself and two of my closer friends. Online friends, but friends just the same. I will be 20 in April. I wouldn't really worry about being off topic here now, this is a sad excuse for a debate fit for FFtF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Just so's you guys know, absence of evidence kind of is evidence of absence. If you cannot provide any evidence or reason for the existence of something then you have absolutely no reason to consider it. Otherwise, I better kill all of you because I think that might be what the invisible purple dragon living in my loft thinks. Hey, it's a perfectly reasonable viewpoint guys, you can't prove me wrong! NYAHNYAHNYAHNYAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Just so's you guys know, absence of evidence kind of is evidence of absence. If you cannot provide any evidence or reason for the existence of something then you have absolutely no reason to consider it. Otherwise, I better kill all of you because I think that might be what the invisible purple dragon living in my loft thinks. Hey, it's a perfectly reasonable viewpoint guys, you can't prove me wrong! NYAHNYAHNYAHNYAH! That was the best post in this entire topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 What a wonderful mix of sarcasm and logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral "Bull" Halsey Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Can we just end it and believe whatever we choose to believe. It's not like this debate will change anyone's view. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 All the same, I was arguing in circles to effectively end the topic; to prove the point that there is no point. When all was said and done, we'd end up at the conclusion that it's a matter of opinion and more than one serious post in this topic was stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 All the same, I was arguing in circles to effectively end the topic; to prove the point that there is no point.When all was said and done, we'd end up at the conclusion that it's a matter of opinion and more than one serious post in this topic was stupid. Waitwaitwaitwaitwait. You ended the topic by making an incorrect statement resulting in over a page of fairly useless bickering? You're doing a wonderful job. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 You ended the topic by making an incorrect statement resulting in over a page of fairly useless bickering? I'm not sure the statement was completely incorrect. My thoughts on the matter was that nature came before any sort of morality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I think this topic has outlived its worth, so I'm going to put it out of its misery. I probably should have done this earlier. Any questions or comments can be PM'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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