General Spoon Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Evil exists. His name is Satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 You can eliminate evil by killing humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I have no argument, both of you have won. *Claps* Though, let's try to keep it mono y mono OK? It's hard dealing with good debaters, let alone 2 of them. I still believe it isn't necessary to kill someone, but in the scenarios placed here before me, I don't know what to say to them. So you won, but my mind wasn't really changed. I think it's safe to say I don't want to be in this scenario when I'm older. Teens usually don't go through this often, but I'll have to be ready for it if it does happen. I've never been in a gun fight, so how can I respond? You two act like you are in a gunfight every minute. XD I answered the question about gun handling in the post above Esau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) And thus, the only way to preserve life is through death. Clearly, this post has shocked and amazed those who wished to post in this topic at one point. Edited November 20, 2008 by bunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Evil exists. His name is Satan. Prove it. Oh wait you can't, you were just pulling the religion card. NEVER SEEN THAT ONE BEFORE, HAR HAR. Bunny, you are joking, right? I mean I don't know you so I'm giving the benefit of the doubt before I show the plethora of ways that is retarded. Edited November 20, 2008 by Death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 You eat dead animals and plants to continue living, don't you? As to whether Humans are the bane of all evil, the jury is still out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 *facepalm* Good and evil, for the last time, are opinion. You do not dictate what is what for the universe, sorry to break it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Guys, You cannot use religion in a debate, not about religion. You can't say "Evil exists. It's called Satan" Because there is no way to prove that Satan does exist. Unless you have physical evidence, I don't want to hear it. God may exist, he may not. We have no way to prove either way, so we must go the way we feel is right. The same as atheists, buddhists, Jews, etc must do. You can't play OUR God, because the people who don't believe in said God will not be convinced at all. You must bring yourself up, or down, to their viewpoint, and argue without the assistance of God. That is the way of a debate/r. ~Blue Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) I never said I could. What I did say is that life and death must not be a piece to solving the puzzle of good and evil. Because both are natural. Planned, if you wish to go there, or the most logical result of evolution if that's your cup of tea. If you truly wish to believe evil exists in murderers, than evil must be natural. Edited November 20, 2008 by bunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I never said I could.What I did say is that life and death must not be a piece to solving the puzzle of good and evil. Because both are natural. Planned, if you wish to go there, or the most logical result of evolution if that's your cup of tea. If you truly wish to believe evil exists in murderers, than evil must be natural. There is no mystery to good and evil.There is the fact that it is subjectively opinionated, and that people try to argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 It's painfully obvious that most of you haven't had a philosophy class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Prove it. Oh wait you can't, you were just pulling the religion card. NEVER SEEN THAT ONE BEFORE, HAR HAR.Bunny, you are joking, right? I mean I don't know you so I'm giving the benefit of the doubt before I show the plethora of ways that is retarded. Don't mean to be off-topic, but are you really 8 years old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Good and Evil are mere constructs. If you can't identify what is good or evil, then can you prove it exists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 It's painfully obvious that most of you haven't had a philosophy class. *Sigh...*Good and Evil are mere constructs. If you can't identify what is good or evil, then can you prove it exists? No, it's impossible. Mainly because you cannot prove that what does not exist exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 No, it's impossible. Mainly because you cannot prove that what does not exist exists. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 No but it is, in fact, the absence of evidence, which when you are trying to prove something, makes your argument invalid, at least on the basis of logic and reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 No but it is, in fact, the absence of evidence, which when you are trying to prove something, makes your argument invalid, at least on the basis of logic and reason. Doesn't prove it doesn't exist though. Just saying. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. ;)No, but unless someone gives me a DAMN good reason to think that good and evil--a silly concept, best left to video games--exists, I will continue with my theory that it's all bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 No but it is, in fact, the absence of evidence, which when you are trying to prove something, makes your argument invalid, at least on the basis of logic and reason. Unfortunately, the evidence against good and evil doesn't exist either. So we're back to God. All the same, I was only jumping in to a topic about 10 posts late. And frankly, it's no fun if you're just saying 'it's your opinion'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Doesn't prove it doesn't exist though. Just saying. XD Irrelevant. If you are going to argue something in a debate, you cannot use the "LOL DON'T MEAN IT DON'T EXIST" argument. Either back up your points or back out. "It's your opinion" only supports relativism. Edited November 20, 2008 by Crystal Shards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Unfortunately, the evidence against good and evil doesn't exist either.So we're back to God. All the same, I was only jumping in to a topic about 10 posts late. And frankly, it's no fun if you're just saying 'it's your opinion'. Not an opinion. Theory. There IS a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 "It's your opinion" only supports relativism. And yet, it doesn't make this topic worth more than two posts. Honestly, if it could truly be summed in such a way, than anyone who made more than 2 serious posts in the topic is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 There's more than one theory of morality, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Irrelevant. If you are going to argue something in a debate, you cannot use the "LOL DON'T MEAN IT DON'T EXIST" argument. Either back up your points or back out."It's your opinion" only supports relativism. Absence of evidence either way means only one thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Not an opinion. Theory. There IS a difference. Is that your theory or your opinion? There's more than one theory of morality, dude. And not a single one is being discussed. So we're all idiots for continuing to post in the topic. Absence of evidence either way means only one thing. It means we're back to God. Edited November 20, 2008 by bunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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