Lopo Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Heyo, I made a Patch for the FE2 translation Pics for beta testing would be greatly appreciated! Credits: MegaKoopaX for the Font Artemis251 for the OG translation Fire Emblem Gaiden Update.ips Edited September 14, 2023 by Lopo Updated File Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Koopa Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I know this is a late response, but I finally got around to playing through the patch. And I noticed a couple of errors. The first thing I noticed was with Silque's name being accidentally rendered as Si&ue" and Tatiana missing an a in her name. Also, with the spell list, I noticed you shorthanded Expel and Seraphim in order to fit the old spell names, but you can easily get around that if you modify the pointers to take advantage of extra space. By that, I mean for example, when I did FE1, Sheeda was six characters and Katua was five characters, but their updated names, Caeda and Catria, have five and six respectively. So, what I did was use the location where Sheeda was stored and use that for Catria's name, and use the location Katua was in for Caeda's name. Then I'd look for the pointers that referenced their name locations, and swap them so the right names appeared, without needing to use extra space. Also some of the terms aren't updated. "Shaman" should be "Cantor", "HiKnight" should be "Fiend", and "Wizard" should be "Arcanist". Some weapons are also not updated, some of the Blessed weapons are still called "Holy", and the "Speed Ring" is still called "Quick Ring." I also don't think you needed to rename the Bolt Sword to "Levin Sword" since the Levin Sword that appears in Archanea, Awakening, Fates and Three houses is a different weapon from the Thunder Sword that appears in Gaiden, Jugdral, and Engage. Obviously "Thunder" wouldn't fit, so keeping "Bolt" would have been fine. Aside from those few criticisms, this is a nice patch. I thought it'd be impossible to make a patch using all the official names, especially with Luthier, Delthea, and Mathilda, that's a lot of text characters being eaten up with their names alone. So, I'm impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Marth 64 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mega Koopa said: Also some of the terms aren't updated. "Shaman" should be "Cantor", "HiKnight" should be "Fiend", and "Wizard" should be "Arcanist". Some weapons are also not updated, some of the Blessed weapons are still called "Holy", and the "Speed Ring" is still called "Quick Ring." I also don't think you needed to rename the Bolt Sword to "Levin Sword" since the Levin Sword that appears in Archanea, Awakening, Fates and Three houses is a different weapon from the Thunder Sword that appears in Gaiden, Jugdral, and Engage. Obviously "Thunder" wouldn't fit, so keeping "Bolt" would have been fine. Aside from those few criticisms, this is a nice patch. I thought it'd be impossible to make a patch using all the official names, especially with Luthier, Delthea, and Mathilda, that's a lot of text characters being eaten up with their names alone. So, I'm impressed. The Sword was called Lightning Sword in Echoes: Shadows of Valentia. Why not have the Sword shortened to be as Lightn. Sword? Also, why does Python appeared twice in the menu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopo Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) This is a Personal Project that I was working on and it isn't finished, prolly should've clarified that to start with. My b Edited September 10, 2023 by Lopo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopo Posted September 10, 2023 Author Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 3/13/2023 at 11:20 AM, Mega Koopa said: I know this is a late response, but I finally got around to playing through the patch. And I noticed a couple of errors. The first thing I noticed was with Silque's name being accidentally rendered as Si&ue" and Tatiana missing an a in her name. Also, with the spell list, I noticed you shorthanded Expel and Seraphim in order to fit the old spell names, but you can easily get around that if you modify the pointers to take advantage of extra space. By that, I mean for example, when I did FE1, Sheeda was six characters and Katua was five characters, but their updated names, Caeda and Catria, have five and six respectively. So, what I did was use the location where Sheeda was stored and use that for Catria's name, and use the location Katua was in for Caeda's name. Then I'd look for the pointers that referenced their name locations, and swap them so the right names appeared, without needing to use extra space. Also some of the terms aren't updated. "Shaman" should be "Cantor", "HiKnight" should be "Fiend", and "Wizard" should be "Arcanist". Some weapons are also not updated, some of the Blessed weapons are still called "Holy", and the "Speed Ring" is still called "Quick Ring." I also don't think you needed to rename the Bolt Sword to "Levin Sword" since the Levin Sword that appears in Archanea, Awakening, Fates and Three houses is a different weapon from the Thunder Sword that appears in Gaiden, Jugdral, and Engage. Obviously "Thunder" wouldn't fit, so keeping "Bolt" would have been fine. Aside from those few criticisms, this is a nice patch. I thought it'd be impossible to make a patch using all the official names, especially with Luthier, Delthea, and Mathilda, that's a lot of text characters being eaten up with their names alone. So, I'm impressed. Thank you so much! It's been a while since I thought about this project since right after I started real life hit me in the balls like, 10 times in a row The double Python could be because I got confused somewhere and accidentally named someone python due to the old name Silque was already fixed, at this point I don't believe I got around to the class names/I did them but had to move back to an old version cuz I messed up and the rom wouldn't load. I probably should've clarified that this wasn't finished and was a personal project Oops =w= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterArrogant Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Thanks for updating this patch! You should upload it to Romhacking.net. I didn't even know about this patch until I saw it mentioned in a FE translation history Mega Koopa put together and posted on the the Fire Emblem subreddit. I'm glad to see Gaiden getting a little love as it seemed like it was one of the last that still needed a little polish to update the names to the official translations. You mentioned you were still working on it. What are your further plans for the patch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopo Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 5 hours ago, MisterArrogant said: Thanks for updating this patch! You should upload it to Romhacking.net. I didn't even know about this patch until I saw it mentioned in a FE translation history Mega Koopa put together and posted on the the Fire Emblem subreddit. I'm glad to see Gaiden getting a little love as it seemed like it was one of the last that still needed a little polish to update the names to the official translations. You mentioned you were still working on it. What are your further plans for the patch? Yes! Though right now I'm mostly focused on finishing my as of yet unreleased FE3 update patch, as I feel that game needs it more. Once I'm done there I'm gonna focus on polishing out this patch, I feel it's mostly complete but it has yet to be play tested thoroughly, if you can spread the word to anyone interested in sending images of bugs here that'd be appreciated as it would expedite the workload. I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to post it to romhacking without the original translator's consent, so i have to ask for that but I'll do it when I'm confident with the hack and after FE3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterArrogant Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 10:56 PM, Lopo said: Yes! Though right now I'm mostly focused on finishing my as of yet unreleased FE3 update patch, as I feel that game needs it more. Once I'm done there I'm gonna focus on polishing out this patch, I feel it's mostly complete but it has yet to be play tested thoroughly, if you can spread the word to anyone interested in sending images of bugs here that'd be appreciated as it would expedite the workload. I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to post it to romhacking without the original translator's consent, so i have to ask for that but I'll do it when I'm confident with the hack and after FE3 I'd be happy to put the word out on the Fire Emblem subreddit and see if we can round up some play testers there. I didn't even know about this patch as I don't regularly visit here. I only found out about it because Mega Koopa wrote up a history of Fire Emblem fan translations and mentioned it there. So a lot of other people probably don't know about this either. I'd been hoping to see a more up-to-date patch for Gaiden with the official name localizations. So I'm glad you've taken that up. Is that the same as you're doing with FE3? Or what kind of updates are you making there? I'm not really aware of the status on fan translations on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopo Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 6:10 PM, MisterArrogant said: I'd be happy to put the word out on the Fire Emblem subreddit and see if we can round up some play testers there. I didn't even know about this patch as I don't regularly visit here. I only found out about it because Mega Koopa wrote up a history of Fire Emblem fan translations and mentioned it there. So a lot of other people probably don't know about this either. I'd been hoping to see a more up-to-date patch for Gaiden with the official name localizations. So I'm glad you've taken that up. Is that the same as you're doing with FE3? Or what kind of updates are you making there? I'm not really aware of the status on fan translations on that one. The FE3 translation is similar, but more polished, I started it when I was 19 and I was just completely re-writing book 2, and updating the names of course. I didn't know how to read japanese back then so I took a lot of creative liberties with the translation. I have thought about going through and re-writing but I think I'll just polish out and bug fix what I have with FE3 and leave it at that. as for sharing it, yes please do, the more playtesters the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushi Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 playing gaiden for the first time using this patch and all is well except for the name of chapter 2 which i assume is "celica's leave" oddly enough celica's name in dialogue is completely fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopo Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share Posted September 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pushi said: playing gaiden for the first time using this patch and all is well except for the name of chapter 2 which i assume is "celica's leave" oddly enough celica's name in dialogue is completely fine Thank you for this! The reason Celica is fine is because I changed Digraphs for the names, and forgot to update chapter 2. Keep these screenshots coming! I really appreciate it! Updates may be slow since Im working on FE3 but I am taking note of things I need to fix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushi Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) it's my pleasure to on that note, catria's name is consistently displayed as "cattria" additionally, are minor bosses' names being updated to their equivalents in echoes? i found that barth (the pirate boss of the leon/valbar/kamui join map) uses his name from echoes here but garth (boss of first celica map in act 3) instead uses the name "garon" and i'd like to know if i should point these out when i see them Edited October 6, 2023 by Pushi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopo Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share Posted October 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Pushi said: it's my pleasure to on that note, catria's name is consistently displayed as "cattria" additionally, are minor bosses' names being updated to their equivalents in echoes? i found that barth (the pirate boss of the leon/valbar/kamui join map) uses his name from echoes here but garth (boss of first celica map in act 3) instead uses the name "garon" and i'd like to know if i should point these out when i see them Thank you! Most likely I forgot to update Garth after I changed Digraphs Same case with Catria, I'll get to fixing those asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushi Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 was just making sure the boss names were being updated so i didn't spend 16 consecutive posts talking about how the random dude no one cares about from alm act 3 doesn't have the right name instead i get to spend one post doing it this sniper is named wolff with two Fs in echoes when recruiting jesse, he switches between geyse and grieth the shadow sword mercenary goes by blake in echoes as much as the dracozombie cantor would love to be the armor knight from fe1, unfortunately he cannot be him and his name became dolth in echoes this guy is named halcyon in echoes which i think is equally silly but c'est la vie as for alm's side, tatarrah gets consistently referred to as tatara in desaix's last moments he deepens the mystery of alm's lineage by making it unclear what relation he has to rudolf this big guy goes by lawson in echoes this other big guy goes by gazelle in echoes delthea goes into a conniption trying to say luthier's name completely unrelated to random boss names but the word "strength" alternates between "strength" and "strenth" depending on the context and i'm not sure which it should be "strength" appears in stat screens and "strenth" appears when someone gets it in a level-up or when the lion heads offer it my sincerest apologies if this all comes across as pedantic, it's simply that i would love to see this patch fully realized as the "definitive" gaiden patch in the same way that project naga is the "definitive" fe4 patch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushi Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (possible) things of note in act 4, with roughly 29% less boss name nitpicking this guy is named garcia in echoes dolth's name in echoes aside, his unit and the map he's found on use two different names for him contradicting what i said in act 3, the forest sage IS named halcyon, but and as it turns out alm's true relation to rudolf is a word that cannot be spoken by anyone speaking of alm the random dread fighter on his route is named xaizor in echoes the tatiana bug from earlier in the thread was fixed, but now in its place is a new one: only in zeke's dialogue is she referred to as "tatiara" alm ends up visiting the place that should not be named on his way to fight rudolf in echoes this guy is named magnus meanwhile this guy is named mueller in echoes it's not a boss name but alm's true name is albein (i'm fully aware that this one of all things is nitpicking) last one for now, the L in "themselves" gets cut off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushi Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 swing around to act 5 for one last trip the menu option to view celica's party's stats has the same "ssnnica" bug as the title of chapter 2 these guys are named hades, cerberus, naberius, gharn, and aurum respectively in echoes i don't even know if it's possible to fix this but the character cast roll uses the old names also this mess of characters is present throughout the entire staff roll with all that said i genuinely enjoyed playing gaiden with this patch and i think you've done a wonderful job in creating it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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