Mad_Scientist

Does anyone know how S supports work yet, as in when exactly they occur and how you choose them? Because (extremely vague/minor spoiler) EDIT: Found a partial answer:

Same here. I don't own a Switch and barring some shocking life event won't be able to afford one for a long while, so I decided to just say screw it and decide to find out what the story is like now. I might watch some full playthroughs of the game too if I can find anything decent. The game has so much material I'll definitely enjoy it anyways if I'm able to play it later.

Personally, if there are any sequels to the game, I'd like them to potentially pull a Drakengard, say all routes are canon, and have different sequels follow up different endings. Someone in this thread suggested a spin off game focusing on Claude trying unify his homeland, that could be very fun and would let us see a completely different continent in the world. In some endings those who slither in the dark are destroyed, but in some they survive, so there could potentially be a sequel game focusing on defeating them as well. And so forth.

A youtube account has posted a bunch of clips now, including a bunch of the previously soundless movies with sound. Channel is here. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdKApOmzVDP43YG1iAJyNVg/videos Watching some of the movies with sound now certainly adds to them. For example:

So the person who posted a bunch of movies without sound has added a few more to them. One in particular stands out to me:

Okay I'm not 100% certain, but based on what I can tell the answer is: As to why I think that's the case:

So an interesting note about the s supports, from what I've read of several of them (minor spoilers I guess) EDIT: Oops double posted, but I must be a fool because I can't find any option to delete this post (I was gonna just edit in what I said to the post above it). Am I missing something obvious or is there not a delete post option?

From what I can tell, Byleth:

Apparently all the supports have been leaked, but I haven't yet seen any link to a pastebin or whatever where they were posted. Anyone have one?

EDIT: Unless I'm wrong and things are even more complicated than I thought.

Based on some of the text, apparently at some point

Some someone revealed the Rhea S support. https://i.imgur.com/sySZVxk.jpg Warning that it has some pretty major spoilers for other plot elements. Like, VERY MAJOR

Interesting route info that can be gleaned from the endings in the data dump and some of the movies. Major ending and potential final boss spoilers below.

As mentioned above 4chan, but if you don't want to plunge your head into the, uh, the interesting environment that exists on 4chan, there's a thread on the Fire Emblem reddit where people are collecting all the spoilers. https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/cfia8c/leak_compendium/ It's a nice compendium of the leaked info, but of course it's not gonna be as up to date as the actual 4chan thread itself.

He clarifies a bit more about Sothis and Rhea here: Interesting. I'm reminded of how in Thani's leak, she said that Sothis and Rhea were originally NPCs, and that you could actually support NPCs at that stage of development, but then Sothis and Rhea became playable characters. Definitely seems like they stand out a bit from all the characters, what with the cryptic comments about the nature of their supports, their original implementation, and the fact that they're the only characters who can only support the protagonist.

Which goes directly against screenshots we've seen plus IGN's own words in the article, so I'm gonna say it's a mess up. I'd also not read too much yet into the difference between Rhea and Sothis's supports. They could still be romantic supports that lead to marriage, they just might have something else different about them.

Well if she's taking the time to describe Judith's personality briefly while also proudly announcing the role, I imagine she's at least somewhat important of a character, on the level of a playable character or notable NPC. But who knows which it is yet.

Here's the tweet in question. Interesting. She doesn't say for sure that she's voicing a playable character, but if she is there's definitely more happening we don't know about.

Well, I can't speak for all women who love women. But I myself am fairly satisfied with the options we (according to Thani's leak) have, though there are some things I wish were different. Side note, regarding the claim that the wlw options are meant to appeal to straight dudes, I think that's both true and not true. As you comment later in your post, none of the female characters have a single wrinkle. Every single playable female character that has been revealed so far is young (or looks young at least), conventionally attractive, and feminine. There is no variety, there are no butch options for example, because butch women just don't exist in the game. So I think it's less "the specific same sex romance options for women were designed to appeal to straight men who find lesbians hot" and more "every female character design for a playable character was designed with straight men at least slightly in mind, so no matter what wlw options were chosen they would naturally appeal to straight men who find lesbians hot". If that makes any sense?

I don't know, the implication of the opening was that Nemesis slaughtered Seiros's entire family in some sort of "Red Canyon" incident, so while I wouldn't at all be surprised if he was well intentioned, he probably is definitely an extremist. Unless of course he wasn't actually responsible for the red canyon incident and the loss of everyone Seiros ever loved, but was falsely blamed for it. Which I could potentially see being a twist reveal.

I think you are misunderstanding the situation here. There is a long, long, looong history of LGBT characters in Japanese works of media being censored or altered for overseas release, especially in the USA. Both Japan and the USA have plenty of issues involving LGBT people that go back ages, but in the US in particular the mere existence of an LGBT character in a work of fiction, especially a work of fiction that's generally viewed as family friendly or kid oriented, has had the potential to spark massive outrage and boycotts. When the English Sailor Moon dub changed lesbians to cousins, it wasn't because the original creators were "ashamed" of them. Now, that doesn't mean I particularly like it when this happens. I'm a transgender woman and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door is one of my favorite games of all time. I would have absolutely loved it if the people who made the localization decisions for the game had said "screw it, who cares if we piss off some parents, keeping this in is the right thing to do", yet sadly that's not what happened. I didn't learn Vivian was trans till years later, and it pissed me off that she got removed from the US version. But the people who made the decision to censor Vivian being trans in some localizations were not the same people who wrote her as trans, and it's bizarre to assume that the decision was made because Nintendo as a whole was somehow ashamed of the character, when the more obvious answer is simply that some people in the company didn't want to rock the boat and cause controversy. And Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door was released back in 2004. That's 15 years ago. A lot has changed since then, and while things aren't exactly great for LGBT people in the US, the number of LGBT characters depicted in media is increasing, and LGBT characters in works of media from other countries are far less likely to be altered or censored now. Heck, a trans woman managed to survive localization in a freaking POKEMON game. Now admittedly she was just a minor NPC, not a major party member like Vivian, but I'd bet good money that back in 2004 Nintendo of America would not have even allowed a minor transgender NPC to get through localization unscathed. Time are changing, and while given Intelligent Systems has kind of a shaky track record with LGBT characters I'm not exactly gonna be holding my breath waiting for some good trans representation, there's also no reason to think it's impossible for it to happen, or that Nintendo will automatically censor it for the US release if it does.