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Yeah I'm glad you brought this up. It always makes me a bit confused when I see anyone brings up how unfair it is that some people are a lot more ready to forgive Dimitri, but not Edelgard. But you really can't compare the two as their actions differ a lot. And like you said, Dimitri does actually get called out on it and the game does acknowledge that how he's acting is wrong. But on the other hand (And I'm talking about in her route here) the game never really tries to paint Edelgard as someone who has done wrong for starting a war, or just how horrific a war could be. The fact they just sorta glossed over it in my opinion is why people would be more likely to forgive Dimitri and dislike Edelgard.

Lowkey everyone in the Blue Lions house needs a hug for one reason or another.

Um, maybe the fact it would be a mess to make a remake of? Like even if you ignored how incest plays a bit too much of a big role in the story for games these days, having a game with only 12 big maps might be something which IS isn't interested in doing again? Or at least they surely never went that route in any other mainline game. I think just taking one look at how the format of the newer games work when it comes to chapters would make you see the problem here. I just don't see how you would be able to go on side missions and stuff like that with how FE4 works. And also a game taking cues from another game doesn't mean anything becasue it happens all the time.

Either a new original game or a FE6 remake. I know a lot of people want it, but I can see IS just never remaking FE4.

I can see one of the reasons why they reused some of the maps is becasue they didn't have the space to add more of them in all honestly. That, or they just didn't want the game's size to be any bigger than it already is.

Evilgard <3 lmao, I'm going to use that nickname from now on. As for the topic of this thread.....she sorta is, although not directly of course. It would had been nice if there was apart in her route which Byleth called her out on it though, but of course Evilgard getting called out on anything is almost unheard of in FE16, especially in her route.

I feel like Sylvain being one of the Bi options would had made a lot of sense. Now to the people who don't know much about him, that might sound confusing considering he loves flirting with women, but for the people who do know his background, they would probably understand what I mean lol. Oh and I could had seen Claude being Bi as well.

The fact female Byleth has different animations sorta proves she wasn't done last minute nor did they forget about her. Also her having her own outfit makes her feel a lot more like her own character than past female avatars. Anyway, on another note. I saw the results of a popularity poll which took place in Japan, and interestingly enough, Female Byleth seems to be more popular than Male Byleth.

I voted for female Byleth, although really I think both of them are canon. Maybe IS would go the road of having one canon in a certain route, while the other in a different route, just like they did with FE14? At first, I was also worried that her outfit would get in the way of my enjoyment of the game, but it ended up growing on me. Yes it's probably not a thing a teacher should be wearing, but Manuela's outfit is even more revealing and I don't really see people bring that up at all. So who knows, maybe in the FE16 world, teachers are allowed to wear daring outfits? I also feel like her outfit just makes her stand out more than Male Byleth. I also think her design to be really pretty. I believe some of the fan art of her that I've seen really made me see this. (Example ^)

I know, which is why I said it's not always that simple. Some chapters do sometimes force you into trying to rush through some fog of war maps, which of course makes things much harder. But I really think that's the whole point of them to being with. However I would say that in recent games (or at least in FE16) from the like....two fog of war chapters that I've gotten to play, the fog of war twist didn't nearly make things as hard as it did in some of the GBA games. I like to take that as them trying to balance things out their own way.

No, he wasn't "literally that character". Not caring about the army or Byleth means just that. Not once did the game say anything about Dimitri going around and killing any troops his eyes see. I also didn't say he didn't kill anyone in a "heinous ways"? What I said that the people he killed weren't innocent civilians who meant no harm to him.

Eh, I don't really believe taking revenge on Edelgard was ever out of his head, but it's more like he had no way of doing it, so he put his attention on somewhere else. And I think this is easily proven when Byleth first finds him. He both thinks Byleth is a another ghost that came to hunt him and makes a promise about how he would get a revenge "on that woman". So Edelgard never truly left his mind. As far as fighting some bandits goes...well, honestly for all we know Dimitri might not have had thought of them to be much of a threat. Which yes is reckless, but I don't think he would pick up a fight that he knows he wouldn't be able to win after swearing to kill Edelgard to Byleth.

Is that so? Well, it seem like I forgot about that detail somehow, and yet it sorta doesn't change much. While it's true they might not have been there to kill him, but had they found him and realized who he was, the chances are they wouldn't have stayed silent. Also, from Dimitri's point of view, would have had no idea of knowing that, nor do we truly even know just how involved they were in the whole war, but the fact they were wearing that armor does say they were apart of it at the very least. Regardless however, that still doesn't mean Dimitri himself is going out from the academy and killing troops. I'm not saying what he did to them is right, but honestly like....it's still nothing in comparison to a certain someone. And really that what made me start this lovely debate, didn't it? The first cutscene after the timeskip? I'm not sure which part are you referring too. Do you mean the one where the 3 armies fought, or the first chapter of second part of the game? Also I'm not saying Dimitri isn't reckless, but I AM saying that he probably wouldn't want to die before he gets his revenge on Edelgard. You do see his more reckless side whenever Edelgard is involved after all.

I'm a human, I could forget a detail or two ^_^ But to me it seem like I payed more attention than you. Anyway, I'm done with this conversation.

Well, I won't say it's as clear as you say. If that was the case, I believe the game would have told us about it, and from what I remember....We got told nothing about him going out of his way to kill those troops, and if anything, from the looks of things when Byleth first Dimitri. It looked like it was them who came to him, and not the other way around. And do you really think Dimitri would be as reckless as to attack a troop of soldiers on his own? I find that to be very unlikely. You said it, he's out for revenge, so the chances are he won't risk his life like that. Yes, that's becasue he's not happy about what he became in the last 5 years. And if you ask me...the fact he finds himself to be a murder makes him a lot more of a human to me than someone like Edelgard. The fact he thinks of himself as a monster means he's aware that what he did isn't truly right. I wouldn't say he's getting a pass here, but it's more like...it's just most people wouldn't look at that and think of it as somehow to be worst than some of the things Edelgard did. So I guess when you compare those two, the things Dimitri does do look like nothing. But I get it we all have different opinions and feelings on this. Sorry I really didn't want to start a debate on this lol V_V Well, the topic at hand wasn't really about her, but okay : ) I'm glad you also agreed on my nickname for her~ They were soldiers, not nobodies , and it seem like you forgot that the chances are they were trying to kill him. They came to him, not the other way around. I'm pretty sure Dimitri wouldn't have carried their bodies all the way to the academy if he was truly the one that went out after them in the first place. So I would assume they were the ones that showed up there first. Now why were they there? I would assume to kill him, and something tells me that they won't just listen if he told them to go away, so the chances are he hand no choice but to kill them.