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I'm enjoying myself when I read this thread with the arguments going around, but I have no intention of joining the fight until I read this It offend hell out of me. You can call us perfectionist or completionist and we'll stay neutral, but you're pitting us as grinding, slow, supports the same as completionist while making what you played hardcore elite. If this isn't elitist, it will be chauvinist pig. Grinding = patient, unless it has the intention to challenge one's self Completionist = Perfection Slow = Taking own sweet time Supports = Lovable, romantic 0% = hardcore(retarded for Chiki) LTC = masochistic Efficiency = casual/hardcore (in my opinion) You try hang yourself for the maximum duration without being out of breath since that is a challenge which no sound human can complete. I will not apologize in anyway until this guy wake up his bloody mind.

Heh, I don't like to see characters left behind after rallying, CHARGE!!!! I say.

Right, maybe I did it wrong. It's hard for me even though I have limit breakers. I never bring any rallybots however.

Thought Ragnell is the only blade? Carrying 10 imposing axe seems fine if it is not thrown.

Count me out on the number of people that agree with your view of better.

Nanchucks and Claws (supposed fist weapon type)? Summonings? (like a tome, creates temporary fodder)

Advantageous Staff - Grant vantage+ for 1 turn on target

If you got limit breaker, and don't mind grinding a bit. Him using Sol Katti as a swordmaster is fun. Most of the time is overkill, but several criticals in Astra will give you the exhilaration. Sol Katti can be obtained at Yen'fay paralouge in case you have forgotten.

Mind reader, No Guard, Lock-on => Rightful King, +Skills Lethality is like the only gimmick which everyone knows, so I think it is underrated when people don't like to see people using it. I use it on my Olivia because of occasional counter kill after she dodge the enemy attack/vantage. Plus, it looks awesome when she took out those staring at her with a branch.

wow, how many times have you been practicing? there's like no to little pause in between actions to think. Nice videos.

Yeah, sorry, I miss out the thought of using the SE for yourself. Always think of it as an object for epleen.

[spoiler=Off-topic] This above video teaches allot of things. FYI

Exactly, they don't realize they're complaining for something that is going to affect us. We can always make the game 'harder' and not other way round. If not challenging enough, there's always room to fine other challenges. Playing hanging upside down from ceiling is can be one, so is finishing the game without save or during single battery charge without adapter.

I'll like to have some. Thanks!

Heroes counted? Severa with axefaire??

@@ you mean how many times? You can beat Apotheosis several times the same way. Supreme Emblem is cool for streetpass when you have troll team each holding one SE. IMO is quite difficult to do since troll teams have more difficult time for Apotheosis. Lethality, Counter failed, team planned with no pair-ups in mind etc.

Sorry for hijacking your thread. This thread by itself is entertaining enough to go beyond 7 pages and still counting. Just wanted to put this. http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6566/182832-quadruple_facepalm_super.jpg

Sorry to break this to you. From your response, Randa, you have sent a massage of not understanding the context of PEMN they're referring. No offense, I understand that you may want to defend Chiki since Interceptor is not holding back, but this doesn't really help him. This is a flawed comparison. Still - money is necessary for both these types of people. The "varying" part in this is not how much, but how often - for how many different things. That is meant to say - Necessary is Not Equals to Useful, and Not Equals to Want. From the dictionary, they are other form of words used to explain, aid in what is the meaning of the words. Just going into Thesaurus, and you'll see that all the words with association or similar meaning doesn't mean they're identical. Why else who one coined up with a different word for the same meaning. Have you heard of the fantasy phrase "It grants you what you wants, but not what you needs." I put down an even more layman valued comparison from your point made earlier. Poor people need $20 to fill their stomach per day. Rich people need More than $20? Why? You're comparing between 2 variables that will never intersect from calculation, and the time when it did is call PEMN. There's no way you'll get an answer out (Vicious cycle) because you're answering questions with questions. The topic of Usefulness and necessary are actually started by Chiki, and even though we also replied in why armsthift is not Overrated. Usefulness, necessary != overrated. Anyway, from the poll, we can tell if majority still think is armsthift is overrated or not. I have tried explaining, and it may fail to reach out. I understand why Interceptor couldn't be bothered. I must apologize first if my above text offend anyone in anyway. Sorry, they're not intended. Check #105, #115.

this is why i like forum. I thought the argument had ended with definite conclusion yet somehow or rather there's 'new' things to talk about. Armsthift is not overrated, obviously not underrated and don't need to nitpick.

lol, Chiki has a personal troll. *pop popcorns.

i doubt you'll sell it when you got it. It's like a medal for achievement. It also helps in 'no grind' but renown allowed runs though it's pretty pointless to have this kind of double standard.

right. what am i saying, lol. I have the impression of using canon weapons. Are you doing the mentioned characters? Renha, Gangrel etc.

Can't she use the heal animation for her cut-in? I suppose Fire/Thunder spells suit her nicely. Are you doing for Spotpass characters too? Like Erika, Lyn, Est etc.

Why is there a winner for a opinion question? lol Armsthift are fun, Bow runs are fun, so is using Underdog bow, glass weapons and all these low grade low durability but amazing mt stuffs. You get them often from event tiles, and you won't be utilizing them without armsthrift.

Gratz! Care to share what skills you'll be giving her? Who knows you'll be bringing her to clear the secret path.