Perkilator Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Have an unpopular opinion on the Smash series? Well, here, you can express any thoughts you have that others don't. My only request is that you are civil about and don't start any unnecessary arguments. One of mine? Creating a unique Target Test for each character as the roster increases would be a waste of resources that could be used for quality control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergelomeuSantos Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I want a option to disable smash attacks from ''smashing'' control stick. Just a option. I know how it is a series classic and all but..It just sucks when you try a quick react and it ends up being a smash attack (but I'm a Smash Newbie, so it might as well be lack of practice). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flere210 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) While having character from other franchise is fine, having character that simbolize a direct competitor goes againist the celebration of Nintendo's History theme of Super Smash Bros. Cloud in smash is like UK celebrating the 4th July as a national holyday. Edited August 31, 2019 by Flere210 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Unit Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Unpopular opinion: Tracer in smash can actually be a good idea. Once I heard of the leaks and the switch case I made a moveset for her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flere210 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) We had a litlle debate on that with some friends. Imo it could work. Edited August 31, 2019 by Flere210 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanguard333 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Link should be left-handed. I know that it was to match him being right-handed in Breath of the Wild, but he should never have been right-handed in Breath of the WIld. Link is the left-handed hero; he's the only hero people actually know about who is left-handed. I don't mind the amount of FE swordsmen in Smash Bros; I just dislike that the majority of them have movesets derived from Marth. Marth, Roy, Lucina, and now Chrom. At least Corrin, Ike and Robin bring something different to the table. I'm not sure if this one counts as unpopular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I like to play 4-Player Free-for-alls, with items and stage hazards on. Also, competitive smash is boring as hell to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perkilator Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 22 hours ago, NinjaMonkey said: I like to play 4-Player Free-for-alls, with items and stage hazards on. Also, competitive smash is boring as hell to watch. Basically this, but the only item for me is the Smash Ball, since the CPU LOVES to spam those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 It's not Sakurai's fault that so many relevant protagonists wield swords, and there is no such thing as too many of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flere210 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, Etheus said: It's not Sakurai's fault that so many relevant protagonists wield swords, and there is no such thing as too many of them. It kinda is when there are alternatives. Like why Corrin and not Azura for example. He could have made Alucard or Soma as the castlevania rep, but instead we got simon. And i don't know well DQ fanbase, but i am quite sure that there are more popular characters than the featureless protagonist. I get that some franchise don't have any option other than swordsman(like, if it was not Cloud, it would be Terra, WoL, Cecil or Chrono. Everyone is an anime swordsman), but exactly for this reason there is no reason to use them when you have alternative. But then, i kinda hate the "protagonist always use a sword" trope. As for my unpopular opinions, imo "everyone is here" was a terrible decision, because some characters are just meaningless and shouldn't exist, or just be skins. Like, you can make half of the lords Marth's skins and the other half Ike's skins. Also, due to the cartoonish and childish nature of most nintendo's IPs, mascottes usually would fit smash better than protagonists, on top of being better rapresentative of a Saga instead of a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Flere210 said: It kinda is when there are alternatives. Like why Corrin and not Azura for example. He could have made Alucard or Soma as the castlevania rep, but instead we got simon. And i don't know well DQ fanbase, but i am quite sure that there are more popular characters than the featureless protagonist. I get that some franchise don't have any option other than swordsman(like, if it was not Cloud, it would be Terra, WoL, Cecil or Chrono. Everyone is an anime swordsman), but exactly for this reason there is no reason to use them when you have alternative. But then, i kinda hate the "protagonist always use a sword" trope. As for my unpopular opinions, imo "everyone is here" was a terrible decision, because some characters are just meaningless and shouldn't exist, or just be skins. Like, you can make half of the lords Marth's skins and the other half Ike's skins. Also, due to the cartoonish and childish nature of most nintendo's IPs, mascottes usually would fit smash better than protagonists, on top of being better rapresentative of a Saga instead of a game. It's easy to poke at Corrin, because Corrin was the one obvious misstep. No one even likes Corrin. It should have been Azura. Edited September 2, 2019 by Etheus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanguard333 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 7:14 PM, Etheus said: It's easy to poke at Corrin, because Corrin was the one obvious misstep. No one even likes Corrin. It should have been Azura. At least Corrin is relatively creative though, because of all the dragon-shapeshifting in his attacks. Don't get me wrong, Azura would have been even more creative. On 9/2/2019 at 6:40 PM, Flere210 said: But then, i kinda hate the "protagonist always use a sword" trope. To an extent; I hear you. It is pretty much everywhere. Plus, most heroes start off as complete newbies when it comes to combat, and swordsmanship requires a lot of training. I should know; I'm a HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) practitioner. However, there is one thing about the sword that separates it from almost every other melee weapon and kind-of justifies the trope: it's a sidearm. It's one of few melee weapons that a person can reasonably carry around with them at all times. Still; I agree that it would be good to see more protagonists using other weapons instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perkilator Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 Expanding on the Target Test thing I said earlier; I would only want to make unique Target Tests for Piranha Plant and the 5 Fighter Pass characters. And I say that knowing full and well there are possibly 10 more DLC fighters on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seazas Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 My opinion: The canon reason of the fighters being toys is better than the actual fighter showing up. Smash has fucked continuity and it makes no sense why 98% of the roster don't do more than their limited moveset. Them being toys remedies the size inconsistencies ((wtf is Little Mac)), character inconsistencies, ability inconsistencies, strength inconsistencies, all of that. On 9/2/2019 at 3:40 PM, Flere210 said: It kinda is when there are alternatives. Like why Corrin and not Azura for example. He could have made Alucard or Soma as the castlevania rep, but instead we got simon. And i don't know well DQ fanbase, but i am quite sure that there are more popular characters than the featureless protagonist. I get that some franchise don't have any option other than swordsman(like, if it was not Cloud, it would be Terra, WoL, Cecil or Chrono. Everyone is an anime swordsman), but exactly for this reason there is no reason to use them when you have alternative. But then, i kinda hate the "protagonist always use a sword" trope. As for my unpopular opinions, imo "everyone is here" was a terrible decision, because some characters are just meaningless and shouldn't exist, or just be skins. Like, you can make half of the lords Marth's skins and the other half Ike's skins. Also, due to the cartoonish and childish nature of most nintendo's IPs, mascottes usually would fit smash better than protagonists, on top of being better rapresentative of a Saga instead of a game. Corrin is the main character. Azura does not compare, she does nothing but spam plot devices out of the ass. She doesn't even get a personal plot relevant weapon. Azura was the ad character briefly and then she dropped out of that. Corrin is the default representation of Fates. Hero are the main protagonists. No other character compares in DQ. Also fuck no is Alucard ever getting in over a Belmont. A Belmont is significantly more popular, iconic and the entire franchise hinges on the Belmont v Dracula legacy. Alucard's nothing but a byproduct of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Brand Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I'd rather have Krystal, Darunia, Ruto, and Waluigi as fighters than characters like Dr. Mario, Mr., Game & Watch, R.O.B., and Wii Fit Trainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perkilator Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 DK Rap should’ve gotten a new remix to make up for its Melee remix’s butchering in Smash 4. I even made lyrics for it: Spoiler D.K. Rap (Modern) Lyrics He-he-here we go! So they’re finally here, Performin’ for you; if ya know the words you can join in too! Put yo hands together if you want to clap as we take ya through this monkey rap! Huh! D.K.! Donkey Kong! He’s the leader of the bunch you know him well; he’s finally back to kick some tail! (Monkey screeching with bongos) His coconut gun Can fire in spurts If he shoots ya It’s gonna hurt! He’s bigger, faster, And stronger too He’s the first member Of the D.K. crew! Huh! D.K.! Donkey Kong! D.K.! Donkey Kong is here! (Saxophone blare) This Kong’s got style So listen up, dudes! She can shrink her size To suit her mood (Saxophone break) She’s quick and nimble When she needs ta be She can float in the air And climb up trees! (Saxophone break) If you choose her You’ll not choose wrong With a skip and a hop She’s one cool Kong! Huh! D.K.! Donkey Kong! D.K.! Donkey Kong! (Weak trumpet plays with bongos) Ain’t got no style Ain’t got no grace But this Kong’s Got a funny face! He can handstand When he needs to And stretch his arms out Just for you (Weak trumpet blare) He inflates himself Just like a balloon This crazy Kong Just digs this tune! Huh! D.K.! Donkey Kong! D.K.! Donkey Kong is here! D.K.! Donkey Kong! D.K.! Donkey Kong is here! (Guitar riff with saxophones) He’s back again And about time, too! And this time— He’s in the mood! When he flies up high With his jet pack on And with his pistols out He’s one tough Kong! (Guitar and saxophone break, with a hint of Stickerbrush Symphony) He’ll make ya smile When he plays his tune But Kremlings beware ‘Cause he’ll stomp on you! Huh! D.K.! (D.K.!) Donkey Kong! D.K.! (D.K.!) Diddy Kong! (Drums interrupt with a backing triangle) Finally, He’s here for you! It’s the last member Of the D.K. crew! This lug’s so strong It isn’t funny He’ll make a Kremling Run for his mummy (Triangle break with backing drums) Pickin’ up boulders Is relative ease Makes crushin’ rocks Seem such a breeze Can’t move too fast Or jump up high But this Kong’s One hell of a guy! Huh! D.K.! Donkey Kong! D.K.! (D.K.!) Donkey Kong is here! D.K.! Donkey Kong! D.K.! (D.K.!) Donkey Kong is here! (Come on Cranky, Take it to the fridge!) W-w-w-walnuts, peanuts, Pineapple smells Grapes, melons, oranges, And coconut shells! Ah yeah! W-w-w-walnuts, peanuts, Pineapple smells Grapes, melons, oranges, And coconut shells! Ah yeah! (A Klump blows up the set, and the songs starts over) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightcosmo Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I think this game's balance is awful, even though people say it's "amazing". I personally don't see it at all. The same mistakes Smash 4 made, this game copy/pasted into Ultimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Chrom and Lucina shouldn't have been added and Robin should be the only FE Awakening rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Anacybele said: Chrom and Lucina shouldn't have been added and Robin should be the only FE Awakening rep. As a Chrom main, I kind of agree. But then, I'm hoping that if we get another Smash and it reboots the series, it will treat Fire Emblem characters with the same weapon type the same way it treats Dragon Quest's Hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightcosmo Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 11 hours ago, Anacybele said: Chrom and Lucina shouldn't have been added and Robin should be the only FE Awakening rep. May I ask why you think this? Honestly curious, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, lightcosmo said: May I ask why you think this? Honestly curious, really. Because Awakening didn't need three characters when there are several FE games in the series that have little to nothing in Smash. Also, they're more Marth (based) clones while Robin is unique. Chrom may be considered a Roy echo, but Roy was originally a Marth clone and is now more Luigified. If anymore FE clones had to be in, it should've been Black Knight as an Ike echo instead imo. Not just because of my Tellius bias either. Awakening having one or two characters and Tellius having one or two characters as well is more even. And for unique movesets, Hector or Ephraim are popular options. A unique character would obviously take more time to make than a clone, but I'm willing to sacrifice two clones for one unique character. Also, I just don't like Chrom or Lucina as characters either, honestly. Robin I'm cool with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 46 minutes ago, Anacybele said: Because Awakening didn't need three characters when there are several FE games in the series that have little to nothing in Smash. Also, they're more Marth (based) clones while Robin is unique. Chrom may be considered a Roy echo, but Roy was originally a Marth clone and is now more Luigified. If anymore FE clones had to be in, it should've been Black Knight as an Ike echo instead imo. Not just because of my Tellius bias either. Awakening having one or two characters and Tellius having one or two characters as well is more even. And for unique movesets, Hector or Ephraim are popular options. A unique character would obviously take more time to make than a clone, but I'm willing to sacrifice two clones for one unique character. Also, I just don't like Chrom or Lucina as characters either, honestly. Robin I'm cool with. Tbh, not every FE game has a legacy worthy of Smash representation (at risk of angering people, Thracia, Geneology, and Sacred Stones currently don't unless future remakes warrant it), and that would only make the Smash community more angry. Lucina would have also been a really good addition as a Marth alt costume. In every sense, it is fitting for her character. Personally, when Smash 6 rolls around, I'm hoping that this will be our FE roster: Lord/Fast Sword: Marth (alt Lucina) Great Lord/Heavy Sword: Ike (alt .... I don't know... maybe Mareeta) Axe: Edelgard (alt Hector) Spear: Dimitri (alt Azura) Bow: Claude (alt. Lyn) Tome: Robin (alt. Celica) That would be a pretty damn good balance of male/female versions of each moveset and game representation, with all unique movesets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Etheus said: Tbh, not every FE game has a legacy worthy of Smash representation (at risk of angering people, Thracia, Geneology, and Sacred Stones currently don't unless future remakes warrant it), and that would only make the Smash community more angry. Lucina would have also been a really good addition as a Marth alt costume. In every sense, it is fitting for her character. Personally, when Smash 6 rolls around, I'm hoping that this will be our FE roster: Lord/Fast Sword: Marth (alt Lucina) Great Lord/Heavy Sword: Ike (alt .... I don't know... maybe Mareeta) Axe: Edelgard (alt Hector) Spear: Dimitri (alt Azura) Bow: Claude (alt. Lyn) Tome: Robin (alt. Celica) That would be a pretty damn good balance of male/female versions of each moveset and game representation, with all unique movesets. This sounds good to me. Though as I said, I'd make the Ike alt BK. They literally share the same sword style because Greil taught them both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulously Olivier Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Anacybele said: This sounds good to me. Though as I said, I'd make the Ike alt BK. They literally share the same sword style because Greil taught them both. Would honestly prefer to have BK as a boss. His legacy deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Etheus said: Would honestly prefer to have BK as a boss. His legacy deserves it. That's true, but we don't have a playable FE antagonist yet while several other franchises have playable antagonists. And I just really like BK, I'd love to play as him. xP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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