Elieson Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Hmm... I just noticed something odd, might be nothing but... Both Euk and Mitsuki were "Killed" Night 1, but SB "Died" Night 1... Might it be that SB died because he targeted someone who has some passive that kills him? That is actually indicative of nothing but a cumulative Mod communication gap. Elieson's "I swear this isn't my game" Votals Terrador (2): Bluedoom, Green Poet Junko Enoshima (1): Kirsche Voteless: The rest of you derps It is now Day 2. With 9 alive, it takes 5 to hammer and 4 to deadline lynch. Phase ends at 3:30 MST on April 9, 2014. So 5:30 EST, 4:30 CST. That's [like, 64 hours and 30 minutes or something] Edited April 7, 2014 by Elieson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Poet Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Oh, right, thanks Elie. ##Unvote ##Vote: Junko Enoshima Come on, talk to me here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I just want more thoughts from Bluedoom. There have been many other players I could have chosen from but they were not exactly being active. And I have not voted for bluedoom yet because I want to talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I'm fairly certain Junko's not mafia(things like not knowing about what scum know and stuff) (because I'm confident with my newb!town reads and I've always been right about those. It'd be sad if I was wrong on this one) but if there's an SK he's probably a candidate for that. Junko should claim the info he's keeping away from us, because that doesn't really scream townie either. And if you think I'm responsible for Shinori's death, I'll have you know that I wasn't around when FFM died, nor did I even bother to read his posts. Me killing him would make no sense whatsoever. ##Unvote I'll need to think if scum!Terra is possible with this new revelation of our dayvig/killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrador Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Hmm... I just noticed something odd, might be nothing but... Both Euk and Mitsuki were "Killed" Night 1, but SB "Died" Night 1... Might it be that SB died because he targeted someone who has some passive that kills him? I believe I mentioned this earlier? I thought it could be the traditional Mason thing of "target scum = you die", but-- aaaaaaaand cut by Elieson. I really haven't gotten around to ISOs yet! Seeing as there's all of eight other people in the game, I should do that! Right after I go take care of a few things. While I'm gone and working with ISOs, though... your comment about "role stuff" about Shinori makes me very much suspect that you killed him, not to mention the option that you used an investigative role. I get that you might think that it's obvious that it sucks for town, so you wouldn't need to say it, but... you've been acting suspiciously for quite some time. I'm not sure about you, but I know that I'd like you to talk more. I'm putting a third vote on you now, which should put you at Lynch-2. Talk to us. ##Light a fire under: Junko Enoshima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Fine I will make my claim. Town doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurykins Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Possible slip here? ED2, you questioned the legitimacy behind tracking because you seemed to think that tracking was done via profile visits. Now, you seem to think that you "wasted your time" because of "role related stuff," leading me to think that you investigated Shinori. Why would a townie feign ignorance on how investigative roles/night actions work if they used such a role during the previous night phase? I actually agree in terms of a plausible slip. In addition, the latter bolded part also comes into mind: If there was something that Junko knew that we didn't- which could've cleared or otherwise gave us more information regarding Shinori, it could've easily have nullified the 1v1 between Terradora (and partially you) and him. The fact that Junko is now openly clamping up under scrutiny is really pinging my scumdar right now, as his gameplay/posting style seems to have vastly changed post-Shinori deathflip (along with the initial reaction once he died- that seemed extremely out of place). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 That reminds me, mafia is very likely to have at least one Strongman kill, if we take everything Refa's said so far as truth. And that reminds me, I've been seeing Paladin lurking for quite some time now... I think we got this one clear at least. The Maf Sniper was their strongman, no? and he died on Day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Alright Who did you protect last night and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Actually I can probably guess that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Poet Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 ##Unvote First things first - no one tell Junko in-thread who to protect this phase. Knowing that scum likely has a strongman kill, our best case scenario is to game WIFOM. Next - I ran some mental calculations, and we absolutely need to lynch scum today, or we'll hit LYLO tomorrow, assuming that another three townies die N2 and protection doesn't have priority in case of doctor death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrador Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Fine I will make my claim. Town doctor. I don't believe it. Probably just trying to draw the night kill away from me, because you pretty obviously believe I'm town. ##Unvote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I felt like I wasted my time protecting shinori because I wanted him alive because when he presents arguments he presents good ones as seen by the case against Kopf who was indeed town but so was shinori. And now you know the state of him. Did he not die that night no, but I still felt like I wasted my time due to him dying now. A shot wasted. Hell he might have been targeted that night but at what cost?To die in the day.Not exactly the best comment. So basically I wanted shinori alive because I felt he was really good at making cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky_Paladin Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 CheckIng in from kinkakuji, so nerd. Keyaki trees and Sakura everywhere, so serenity. Lurking because touristing and mafiainf is muzukashi! I thought Mitsuki killed to implicate shonori. Expect shonori cops Mitsuki. Will heck for crumbs Likely: one strongman hit + one factional Indicates two scums +1 alleged town with conditional hit = only 2 deaths tonight yes? Or maybe out of. Hooey snipers equals one shot only. Likely scums got bonus hits to counter death of sniper early on. I am roled. Night action target no actual useful information Euklyd reasonable vig target, would have possibly have shot them myself Angry players using appeal to emotion looks scummy IMO Can read and post but cry difficult will have all day tomorrow please enjou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 GP: Do you really think it's a high possibility for the maf to have MULTIPLE strongman kills? We already got rid of one of them remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrador Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 ##Unvote First things first - no one tell Junko in-thread who to protect this phase. Knowing that scum likely has a strongman kill, our best case scenario is to game WIFOM. Next - I ran some mental calculations, and we absolutely need to lynch scum today, or we'll hit LYLO tomorrow, assuming that another three townies die N2 and protection doesn't have priority in case of doctor death. Actually, the strongman kill is a lie. Shinori pointed out Refa's slip, and seeing as there's already a sniper and more kills than you can shake a stick at, I highly doubt the existence of a strongman. I would guess that there is no strongman, but if there was, the kill was probably used already, in case they got shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurykins Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Well shit, a doc claim. I felt like I wasted my time protecting shinori because I wanted him alive because when he presents arguments he presents good ones as seen by the case against Kopf who was indeed town but so was shinori. And now you know the state of him. Did he not die that night no, but I still felt like I wasted my time due to him dying now. A shot wasted. Hell he might have been targeted that night but at what cost?To die in the day.Not exactly the best comment. So basically I wanted shinori alive because I felt he was really good at making cases. ...I see. I'm willing to let that pass for now, and since we just lost our cop, I don't fancy the idea of losing our doc in the meantime. ##Unvote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 That said, we could expect the Maf to try to kill Junko/Terra tonight, so... In the meantime, I notice that one of us has been pretty much lurking all game so... ##Light a Fire under: Breezy's Ass. Start talking, you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 If you look back at FFM's flip you'll notice that his 'strongman' was basically a shot that couldn't be roleblocked. I suspect the mafia have other variants where their kills can't be protected against or redirected. That could be ther other 'strongman' shots that they're using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 In that case we'll have to hope it's limited shots and was used last night, since mafia having 2 kills per night with an extra 1-shot sniper is kinda OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Well I'm probably dead tonight. But at least it is still possible for me to win! There are 2 anonymous users now. And sorry but Bluedoom please at least attempt to defend yourself. ##Vote Bluedoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Lol what do you want me to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Lol what do you want me to do defend against my accusations even if they do not have much weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedoom Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 And if you think I'm responsible for Shinori's death, I'll have you know that I wasn't around when FFM died, nor did I even bother to read his posts. Me killing him would make no sense whatsoever. I don't have any other defence if you think I killed Shinori just to frame Terrador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Poet Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I'm starting to think that Breezy is very likely anonymous-lurking mafia. The fact that he hasn't been poked or subbed out yet (as far as I can tell) implies that he's active, and I've also seen him posting on other SF sections. @Junko - sorry, what exactly was your case against Marth, again? There's only one post I'd like him to explain, namely this: Looks like the dayvig isn't town after all, considering they haven't claimed their shots. Fuck I might need to reconsider this Reconsider what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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