Starman Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) If theres someone else from FF5 that probably has a chance, i'm seeing Faris more because of her already existing popularity maybe give her the abilities of classes Bartz didn't use like beastmaster, thief, red mage dual cast, time mage, bard, berserker and the like and probably throw in the extra classes from the later versions(Necromancer, Cannoneer, Gladiator and Oracle) for more diversity from Bartz Edited August 16, 2016 by Trisitei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Steiner or bust. WoL seems to be a tank character, and I think Steiner would be a huge help. 'sides, what's Garnet gonna do, pound someone's chest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Steiner or bust. WoL seems to be a tank character, and I think Steiner would be a huge help. Steiner would work really well too :P WoL is pretty tanky yeah, part of his style is like a counter or block then strike back kind of deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Steiner would work really well too :P WoL is pretty tanky yeah, part of his style is like a counter or block then strike back kind of deal. WoL's EX skill screams tank. Not that it's a bad thing, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 WoL's EX skill screams tank. Not that it's a bad thing, but still. Yeah it does, also curious who do you think you'd use out of the people shown so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Yeah it does, also curious who do you think you'd use out of the people shown so far? After watching all the character videos. . .I want my Kuja. Still, Zidane looks like he'll get some use from me. Might have to figure out how to Cloud/Ramza, since both of them look about my speed. May also throw Lightning into the mix. Everyone else is either too slow or is a mage that doesn't click with me (Kuja was the only exception, and I dunno why). If there's a fast mid-range character, I'd pick him/her up as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 May also throw Lightning into the mix. Everyone else is either too slow or is a mage that doesn't click with me (Kuja was the only exception, and I dunno why). If there's a fast mid-range character, I'd pick him/her up as well. Oh whoops I missed that post haha ^^; yeah I wouldn't worry about Kuja, he should show up in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drarky Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 There are many characters that look so fun to play, but I think I would probably stick to my 012 favorites: -Barts: Favorite FF game and his new play style is oure gold. -Kefka: Mad Mage, and my favorite villain. -Warrior of the Light: The only real defensive character I like. I also love FF1 -Kain: Honestly, Dragoons are just cool. And he has one of the manliest VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrocknroll Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 after watching videos, I think Onion Knight, Bartz, Squall, Vaan, Y'shtola, and Lightning would be my main choices. also admittedly I've realized that these costumes are cool, but I typically prefer the main costumes for everyone but Y'shtola, Garland, and Lightning. Especially Terra and Bartz. I feel the Amano art works so much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) So theres going to be a Japanese stream of Dissidia Arcade stuff in the near future (dno why I said tomorrow oops), usually when they do this its to show returning/new characters etc Edited August 25, 2016 by Jedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrocknroll Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I know it's probably going to be a new female character but I'm really hoping for Gaius above anyone else. especially since I really want another XIV character Ashe and Vanille are cool too though. Hope or Balthier if the new character is male. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 If its a returning character i'm gonna guess they'll show Yuna, Tifa, Sephiroth or Kuja. If its a new one, i'm not sure but maybe Minwu because Nomura really wants him in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrocknroll Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) I can't remember but I'm like 95% sure they said the reveal would be a brand new character I assume that Minwu will come eventually since they once flat out confirmed that Mateus wasn't coming any time soon. Same with Cloud of Darkness. Edited August 26, 2016 by Enigmar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 I can't remember but I'm like 95% sure they said the reveal would be a brand new character I assume that Minwu will come eventually since they once flat out confirmed that Mateus wasn't coming any time soon. Same with Cloud of Darkness. Aha, thanks for that! I'm excited to see who they pull out, because I adore the FF franchise as a whole so I'm sure it'll be pleasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) I'm watching the tournament right now and I had stuff to say overall. What I was saying in Discord @Batter The Beast I'm watching two teams fight and one of them is likeTerra, Firion & Tidusthe other is Lightning, Onion and SquallBatter The Beast - Today at 1:10 AM>no bartz or ramzaJedi - Today at 1:11 AMit looks like if you have Terra on your teamyou have to cover herlike its a commitmentor she gets bodiedBatter The Beast - Today at 1:13 AMoh are these likeserious playersJedi - Today at 1:13 AMI think soBatter The Beast - Today at 1:13 AMdoes this mean bartz and ramza are shit tierJedi - Today at 1:13 AMNot sure honestlyI only have caught these 6so farLike Tidus isn't even getting to use his great movement that wellbecause the Terra player is being actively targeted nowFirion has to be like her bodyguardhahathen againthe other team has Squall, Lightning & Onionand as you knowtheir attacks are pretty damn fastlike Firion and Tidus instantly react if Squall gets anywhere close to herlmaoBatter The Beast - Today at 1:17 AMdamnJedi - Today at 1:17 AMand Squall finally broke through and won it for the teamBatter The Beast - Today at 1:17 AMayynow pick bartz, please let him be good dammitJedi - Today at 1:18 AMlets see the next round...Semi finalslets seeTerra, Cloud, Tidus vs Terra, Squall and Cecilsure is... Terra in here@Batter The BeastBatter The Beast - Today at 1:22 AM:/Jedi - Today at 1:23 AMI'd hate to have you and Ice have to guard me lmaoI'll probably be a more close range doodi'm shocked Cecil is being used tbhOh btw BatterCecil can choose to start in DK or Pallywhich is kinda cool@Batter The Beastsry to DISTRACT YOUBatter The Beast - Today at 1:29 AMoh thats neattoo bad im probably not gonna play cecilJedi - Today at 1:30 AMIn the stream chat"Krescentwolf i heard ramza got nerfed... so thats why we arent seeing him much David G Ramza's in the game, but he was recently nerfed so no representation for him this time around "WelpThe stream chat is shouting for Terra nerfs hahaLooks like the finals will be the Lightning team from earliervs the Terra, Squall & Cecil teamBatter The Beast - Today at 1:35 AMterra nerfs incJedi - Today at 1:35 AMhaha Terra's VA is even therethats amusingLIGHTNING, SQUALL, AND ONION KNIGHT VS TERRA, SQUALL AND CECILtis the finalsBatter The Beast - Today at 1:42 AM#nerfsquallJedi - Today at 1:42 AMOh manTerra & Cecil causing disruption while Squall goes hamlmaoboth Squalls are locked in combat with each otherBatter The Beast - Today at 1:44 AMhahahaJedi - Today at 1:44 AMLightning still has her magic/upclose mixwhich looks pretty effectiveso far everyones taken damage but OnionLightning team did lose a "stock"because you have 3 lives per team first victory goes to the Terra, Squall & Cecil team The game is effing awesome to watch, I wanna play it more now. Also the victory goes to team rumblePlaza who used Terra, Squall & Cecil And the announcement is... Well we have new gods, Spritus and Mater... something I didn't catch it I think this is a new mode announced? But i'm unsure. I need a translator x.x Ace from Type-0 confirmed.I captured the short trailer myself Credit to the stream and all that. Edited August 27, 2016 by Jedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrocknroll Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Ace is cool I guess, but I'm pretty sure XI and XII are literally starving for attention right now never actually played Type-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeaceRibbon Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Heck yeah, male mages are awesome! Glad to see Ace is in... even if my only experience with him is Theaterythym. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Ace is cool I guess, but I'm pretty sure XI and XII are literally starving for attention right now never actually played Type-0 I haven't either, also we still have like 16 new characters left to go if the whole 50 character roster is a thing, they pretty much confirmed all the Duodecim people are returning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkDestr0yer61 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Ace would have been my 2nd guess for Type-0 rep. But I do like the fact that we have someone who fights with Cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 So the not-MC from the game that wasn't meant to be a Final Fantasy game is joining? Been wanting to get it for the gameplay (know the dub was extremely rushed and story was standard last-gen faire for SE- i.e. too convoluted for it's own good). Looks cool. Glad it's not Machina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) So the not-MC from the game that wasn't meant to be a Final Fantasy game is joining? Been wanting to get it for the gameplay (know the dub was extremely rushed and story was standard last-gen faire for SE- i.e. too convoluted for it's own good). I wouldn't be surprised to see Crono down the line now considering Trigger was originally going to be a Final Fantasy, but had its name changed during development. But then again, 16 slots for tons of Final Fantasy games i'm sure some people want to see more games casts expanded on first after this, while it sounds like alot, its pretty small for FF haha. Lets see... With Ace here now the roster will look like this when everyone is redesigned from Duodecim (because they did confirm everyone from Duodecim will be back eventually). Warrior of Light & Garland for 1 Firion & The Emperor for 2 Onion Knight/Luneth & Cloud of Darkness for 3 Cecil, Kain & Golbez for 4 Bartz, Gilgamesh & Exdeath for 5 Terra & Kefka for 6 Cloud, Tifa & Sephiroth for 7 Squall, Laguna & Ultmecia for 8 Zidane & Kuja for 9 Tidus, Yuna & Jecht for 10 Shanatto & Prishe for 11 Vaan & Gabranth for 12 Lightning for 13 Y'shtola for 14 Ramza for Tactics Ace for Type-0 So the real mystery is, who are those 16 other characters, they will likely be characters popular in the Japanese fandom and I know one of their major wants is Hope from 13, and we know Nomura wants Minwu from 2 in, which well he usually gets what he wants. Also gonna go out on a limb and say that every game that only had 1 or 2 characters as of Duodecim's roster will be getting another character (aside from 1 & 3), just a hunch, so that'd give us newcomers from 2, 6, 9, 11 (maybe but not sure since its an online game, i'm impressed we have 2 from it already) 12, and 13 for sure if i'm right. There is also the question of other FF spinoffs like Crystal Chronicles and such. Edited August 27, 2016 by Jedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrocknroll Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 XIV and XI can easily get just as many characters as the other games. XI has Aphmau, Lilisette, Shadow King, Lady Lilith, or Eald'narche. XIV has Alphinaud, Thancred, Gaius, Lahabrea, and Minfilia. I would certainly hope they don't get skipped just for being MMOs As for the final list of newcomers, I'm expecting something along the lines of Sarah, Minwu, Xande, Locke, Zack, Vivi, Seymour, Eald'narche, Balthier, Hope, Caius, Y'shtola, Alphinaud, Gaius, Noctis, Ramza, and Ace. Not maybe that many or those characters exactly, but something along those lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Ace's move set looks really cool. I wonder if That Kid from Mobius FF would be included? On one hand, he's technically WoL. On the other hand, he has more personality than WoL. Seems like some sort of alternate dimension thingy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 XIV and XI can easily get just as many characters as the other games. XI has Aphmau, Lilisette, Shadow King, Lady Lilith, or Eald'narche. XIV has Alphinaud, Thancred, Gaius, Lahabrea, and Minfilia. I would certainly hope they don't get skipped just for being MMOs As for the final list of newcomers, I'm expecting something along the lines of Sarah, Minwu, Xande, Locke, Zack, Vivi, Seymour, Eald'narche, Balthier, Hope, Caius, Y'shtola, Alphinaud, Gaius, Noctis, Ramza, and Ace. Not maybe that many or those characters exactly, but something along those lines I believe Noctis will get in whenever FF15 finally launches, so in about another 10 years. I don't really see Zack being a potential character (I know you said not exactly but I figured i'd address this) considering he and Cloud would fight pretty similar unless you decided to actually focus more on his DMW limits and or Angeals style of fighting, more barehanded, but it would still come off as similar to Cloud & Tifa. Something to note about Dissidia is that none of the characters currently in Arcade or in Duodecim for that matter, play anything remotely similar. I suppose arguments can be made that he'd still stand out, but also theres the question of Japanese character popularity that plays a pretty big role in all this as well, its kind of hard to exactly call who will be in the game at the end of the day. For example since Ace is there now, I expect no Setzer at all because he also uses cards as his primary weapon, while there are multiple sword users they all have their own distinctive styles, I think if a character has enough of a stand out gimmick or fanbase, even similarities might be ignored though. Like while Onion Knight might have a Ninja form, we still lack a full on Ninja character surprisingly, and there are quite a few stand out weapons and gimmicks still to use. Also I hope by "Everyone from Duodecim is playable" means that Aeris/Aerith is gonna be promoted to full character, probably not, but I can dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrocknroll Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) I don't think Zack is that great a choice. I was mainly just referring to how he could be passed as a Crisis Core character or something i am slightly lowkey annoyed by the reveal cycle now that I think though. We're getting another character in November, but Ramza, Garland, Kefka, Kain, Ace, and ??? add up to six. This game has a grand total of 50 characters as their goal. If they keep to this pace, it could take half a decade for all of the 012 characters back. That's an insane amount of waiting. Take Golbez for instance. Now that Kain is here, I highly doubt that Golbez will be added until most other games get at least 2 characters. I don't think anyone would actually expect Jecht before Yuna, or Kuja before Vivi, or even something like Gabranth before Basch/Vayne/Balthier/Ashe. basically I'm glad everyone will be back, but characters like Jecht, the Emperor, and Golbez will probably be eternally screwed over by the development cycle Edited August 28, 2016 by Enigmar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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