Worst Pairings

[Big Klingy]

OK, I've seen MANY discussions of best pairings, and I'm getting a bit sick of them. So I thought I'd do this just for fun. Let's debate who is the absolute worst possible pairing for each female. No, not worst out of the 'reasonable pairings', the worst out of the pairings no-one in there right mind would even dream of making. The absolute worst, period.

Although I know for a few people (mainly Ira) the subs will still probably be worse, but just ignore that.

Anyway, I mainly started this topic for fun (and as a kind of parody of 'best pairing' threads) but It would be interesting to see some serious discussion of this. For lols.

OK, here's what I've thought of so far:

Edain: To be honest, I'm not sure. I can think of many pairings that screw over one child and make the other somewhat-decent, like Claude. (at least Rana gets a better Staff rank and priest-like stats) Arden may be a contender, but he does give Lester better durability. This is a tough one...

Ira: It's either Claude or Azel, but probably Claude, as he gives no skills and arguably worse stats. Levin is pretty bad, but at least he gives some decent skills.

Lachesis: Like Edain, this another tough one. This is also one of the few situations where Azel/Claude is NOT horrible, since they make Nanna a better healer and Delmud still has OK strength due to Hezel blood. And ideas?

Sylvia: Technically, it's "anyone not Claude or Levin." But seriously, I think Beowulf and Midale are both serious contenders. A dancer and an underleveled priest are two people you do NOT want to be giving Charge to. Beowulf is probably worse since he gives better growths in the stats they DON'T need, and worse growths in the stats they DO need than Midale. Although Arden is pretty horrible too.

Fury: Well... Arden makes Sety pretty terrible, but it does improve him and Fee's durability a bit, which has to count for something. Quite a few physical users give Fee some OK boosts, so this is a tough one to call. I'd go with Arden personally.

Tiltyu: All physical users who don't have Vantage or Prayer are fair game for this one. Judging by the growths, Jamuka and Arden give horrible Magic and the worst Skill (although at 55% it's still pretty high) I know Arden has Vantage, but he's ENTIRELY outclassed by Lex, so I think its safe to count him.

Briggid: Her son will never be 'bad' per-se, but Claude is pretty horrible. Azel is too, but at least he gives Pursuit and good Speed to Patty.

Yeah, there seems to be a general trend of Claude for physical-based children and Arden for magically based children. Also, speaking of Arden, I've just realised that in almost all pairings he is entirely outclassed by Lex, who gives equal or better defence and better stats elsewhere.

[Dr. Tarrasque]

Sylvia x Noish. He has Charge and lacks pursuit.

Briggid x Azel is actually decent, Patty's STR won't really be great with most pairings and same's true for her durability so you may as well leave her with Magic Swords and Azel would improve her damage. Faval's STR would drop but come on, why would that be of any concern with his promotion gain and Ichival?

Lachesis x Arden: Lack of Pursuit and Ambush isn't doing anything spectacular for the 2 children.

[Chalis]

We've done this topic before. Every pairing has its use, can be fixed, whatever. Play Sub-run for a challenge.

Aira's kids always have pursuit.

Lester can at least do chip damage and do some boss abuse. Rana heals.

Delmudd and Nanna are Charisma bots.

Leen can dance. Corple can heal.

Sety and Phee always have pursuit.

Arthur and Teeny can be thought of as Tiltyus, enemies have crap res, and Wrath.

Faval has a pretty bow. Does anyone honestly care about Patty's 'fighting' abilities?

[Big Klingy]

Sylvia x Noish. He has Charge and lacks pursuit.

Danm it, I forgot about this. Good point. (and it's not like her children will ever be needing Critical anyway)

[Paperblade]

Ardan for everyone.Ignoring the obvious worst.

For Adean, I'm gonna say Azel. Lester is completely worthless, and Rana's move is so low that the "improved" offense (lol, C Wind/Thunder and Elfire access with crappy caps and just Pursuit) doesn't matter. Levin might be worse though because no Pursuit/Rescue staff, and Continue is redundant with the Hero Bro.

Ayra... Probably Claude. Lakche is liek impossible to screw up because Swordmaster is ridiculous.

Lach, probably someone with no Pursuit. Nanna is pretty difficult to screw up too severely, but Delmud with someone like Noish as the father is really bad. So I'm gonna go with... Noish. Maybe Lex?

Every Sylvia pairing is her worst pairing. But srsly it doesn't matter, since it's basically Claude > Lex > Any other Corplol.

Fury... Uh... Probably a physical dude with bad Str growth, to make Fee weak (30 Spd cap makes that impossible to mess up) and Sety "weak" (Impossible to be useless when you're a goddamn Sage). I'm gonna say Midir. Enjoy Charging yourself to death vs. Bow users. Also gives crappy HP/Lck/Def to keep durability poor. Although, since Sety is good no matter what, Azel to make Fee a joke is worth considering.

Tiltyu? She has horrid base magic growth so no magic father to keep the kids bad, and avoid offense boosting skills since her poor defenses keep them frail. I'm gonna say Noish. It's like the Lex pairing, only without Elite or Ambush, so they're even crappier than they already were.

Briggid... Faval could have 10 Str and still one round stuff with Ichival, although he'll be forced to take counters from magic users and struggle with bosses. They key here is to make him inaccurate because the Ichival only has 70 hit, while making sure Patty has poor offense (lack of skills). Claude is good for this, due to his lulzy offensive stats making Patty utter garbage outside of hitting once with a magic sword for pitiful damage.

Edited November 17, 2009 by Paperblade

[Narga_Rocks]

Tiltyu? She has horrid base magic growth so no magic father to keep the kids bad, and avoid offense boosting skills since her poor defenses keep them frail. I'm gonna say Noish. It's like the Lex pairing, only without Elite or Ambush, so they're even crappier than they already were.

Not to mention without the def growth. Their def cap of 20 (and 19 or 16 before promotion) and low bases already prevent Lex's def growth from going out of control, but it is still something cool that is missing (especially on Tinny).

[cheetah7071]

Paperblade baically nailed it, so I'm just going to clear this point up:

Edain: To be honest, I'm not sure. I can think of many pairings that screw over one child and make the other somewhat-decent, like Claude. (at least Rana gets a better Staff rank and priest-like stats) Arden may be a contender, but he does give Lester better durability. This is a tough one...

Arden is not a bad pairing for Edain. In fact, he's among the better ones. Rana goes from a healbot to a healbot that can take a hit, and Lester isn't locked to iron bows until chapter 7 and then steel until chapter 8. He'd still rather have pursuit, but Arden is definitely Lester's best non-pursuit father.

[Kriemhild]

Although Alec!Faval is still usable thanks to Ichival, it's still a pretty bad pairing in my experience.

[PuffPuff]

Ayra...Probably Claude.

Lach-Azel. It will only be beneficial for Nanna.

Sylvia- Every pairings that is not named Claude are her worst pairings.

Fury...Maybe Dew. Abysmal Str for Fee as well as Magic for Sety.

Tiltyu...Alec. Having Abysmal Magic isn't worth having for Nihil.

Briggid...Levin. Levin's magic growth will mess up Briggid's kids' str.

[TheEnd]

Lach-Azel. It will only be beneficial for Nanna.

Pursuit. High Speed growth. Hezul blood.

Fury...Maybe Dew. Abysmal Str for Fee as well as Magic for Sety.

Dew!Fee's strength growth is 40%... the second highest, behind Arden/Jamka (45%).

It's a bad pairing, since Dew lacks a magic growth and offensive skills (Sol isn't passed down), but set your facts straight.

Briggid...Levin. Levin's magic growth will mess up Briggid's kids' str.

What?

[Dat Nick]

Pursuit. High Speed growth. Hezul blood.

And Beo maintains a 50% str growth/30 def and he can benefit from 2 range magic swords too.

Edited November 17, 2009 by laws b122

[SaraJaye]

Midayle/Tiltyu. I did this one because I wanted Arthur to take Freege while Tinny went off with Sety, and foolishly assumed Midayle would be an okay dad for a couple of mages cause hey, it didn't hurt Rana and he's got nice skills, right? WRONG-O! Five chapters later both kids get their magic growth nerfed, apparently I forgot that the reason it doesn't hurt Rana's magic is because Edain has a higher magic growth than Tiltyu. Seeing Sety and Tinny go off together at the end was rewarding, but not enough to do this pairing again.

Alec/Fury. At least with Arden/Fury Fee gets some decent strength and you get a love convo. Alec's only use is if you want Fee to solo maps without fear of archers but her stats are so mediocre that there's really no point. And this pairing was the first time I actually had issues with Sety's growths.

Azel/Bridget. This was saved only by Faval's Ichival and Azel's Pursuit skill. Otherwise, meh.

[Luftwaffe]

Azel/Bridget. This was saved only by Faval's Ichival and Azel's Pursuit skill. Otherwise, meh.

Pursuit is a class skill for Faval.

[Narga_Rocks]

Azel/Bridget. This was saved only by Faval's Ichival and Azel's Pursuit skill. Otherwise, meh.

Pursuit is a class skill for Faval.

I suspect (though could be wrong) that SaraJaye values making Patty a little better, considering the Pursuit skill actually means something to her. Especially if you can give her a wind sword. She'll eventually cap mag and spd, though mag has a low cap of 18, though she'd probably only hit 20 or 21 even with a higher cap. At least spd usually caps.

It's really too bad Lex doesn't have innate Pursuit, though I suppose that would just about make him the most desirable father of all, and he's already pretty high on that list.

[SaraJaye]

Azel/Bridget. This was saved only by Faval's Ichival and Azel's Pursuit skill. Otherwise, meh.

Pursuit is a class skill for Faval.

But not for-

Narga_Rocks:

I suspect (though could be wrong) that SaraJaye values making Patty a little better, considering the Pursuit skill actually means something to her. Especially if you can give her a wind sword. She'll eventually cap mag and spd, though mag has a low cap of 18, though she'd probably only hit 20 or 21 even with a higher cap. At least spd usually caps.

It's really too bad Lex doesn't have innate Pursuit, though I suppose that would just about make him the most desirable father of all, and he's already pretty high on that list.

Exactly. XD If I can't get Pursuit as a skill with a pairing I go for the backup of the Pursuit Ring, Hero weapons or Continue, which is a decent runner-up. Duel could be a contender if it didn't run the risk of the unit in question getting themselves killed in the proccess.

Edited January 14, 2010 by SaraJaye