Narga_Rocks

I vote somewhere with mountains, snow, and ski lifts.

It's a tribble!

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Dude, selfies or nothing. There's a whole 'nuther thread for non-selfies also pinned.

I voted Lyn. Looking at chicks is > looking at guys and Lyn is more useful than Eirika thanks to Seth.

Why does Neph need an arms scroll? Forged steel doesn't appear until she should have D anyway, and promotion is insta C and then if she's attacking a lot then she'll get A in time for forged silver anyway. The trouble, I guess, is she'll rely more on that forge than others. But she probably doesn't want to get weighed down by steel lances anyway, and she'll hopefully get D lances around the time of 13 str anyway. Probably by 11 str, really, unless she got a big bexp dump.

But if any 3 of, say, 7 mounts and any 2 of, say, 4 foot units are needed on a given map, and the 3 mounts contribute more than the 2 foot units, how do you place all 11 units on the tier list? It seems to me the 7 mounts would need to go above the 4 foot units, yes?

Who suggested rigging? The alternative was: fixed mode, unique to this game.

I think we started with random instead of fixed on this list, but I'm not sure where they stand now. If we are still on random, then it is certainly a point that relying on a stat being a certain level, or worse yet 2 or 3 stats, and it's each like a 50% chance of getting there, giving a couple of extra levels definitely has merit. It's like, really unlikely to have the requisite str and spd to kill something at the level averages tell you they'll have it. Sure, you could randomly get 4 more spd than you need, but that doesn't help much when you have a chance of falling one str short. If you have a 50/50 chance to get 12 str and 50% for 17 spd and you need both, you pretty much have a 25% chance of actually being able to kill the unit if you need both 12 str and 17 spd. On the other hand, there are stat boosters at various points and you can use a forge more often on one character that got stat-screwed. Still, though, having a few extra levels is good. And though I'm not sure why you quoted me there, it kinda works. That bexp spent on Mia for chapter 9 alone is never helping you afterwards. Unless you use her, that is, but lots of people say mount rush the game so not sure what Mia does with 7 move beyond that point. Now, the point dondon brought up is "does it actually cost you anything?" It most certainly costs in reliability, I'll give you that, but sadly lots of people here seem to value 4 turns at 70% much much higher than 5 turns at 99%, so I kinda stopped caring long ago. My soul was saddened by my fave characters being better at reliability than super-low turns and super-low turns taking precedent.

Unfortunately, a lot of people see Wrath (remove Aether for Endgame) on Ike as the way to kill Ashnard because turns are valued so much, and if Mia shaving a turn from a shove can count as even so little as a tiebreak, it seems that saving a bundle of turns while Ashnard is running around slaughtering your units (or you spend turns boxing him up) is quite important to them. In other words, if he saves like 5 turns (for the sake of argument), compared to most units that you can't really prove save any turns (except like Titania and bexp'd Marcia) it seems like quite a lot. Of course, there's the Edward/BK factor. But as I've pointed out on that list, different lists can have different rules. For argument's sake, though, if the other options to kill Ashnard suck so bad that Ike saves a massive number of turns that would auto-top him on the list, which he might considering your other option is literally only Ena (no Nasir due to saving 2 to 4 turns in 27-E by running asap) with a pile of stat-boosters until a king reaches the Berserk form, then the Edward factor rears it's head and we do some handwaving to justify lowering Ike.

one of the best games of all time. I like Terra's theme more, though. Could just be because I like Terra more than Celes, though.

Link to the Past. Dark World. Not going through 52 pages to see if it's posted. ff6 WoR