Deliriyum
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Rapier, I think you should claim
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Makes sense.
So I just Iso'd Rapier for the first time and....
wtf 5 posts?
These things also jumped out at me.
I'll continue this later.Sounds like you're trying to appease the town
I don't want to place a voteWhat's the point of this long post if it leads up to nothing
ShinoriShinori isn't a realistic lynch target at this point and you tunneling him doesn't help anyone.
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Iris, who do you think is mafia? You look like you're trying to sway with the majority...and I don't understand why.
You said you preferred a Helios lynch. Does Rapier's lack of a response make him the better lynch target?
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I thought Helios had more votes.
##Vote: Helios
I mentioned reasons earlier but it also felt like you were testing the waters when you asked that question about me. You mentioned me, but when nobody seemed interested you totally gave up on that theory.
Rapier hasn't really made a big impression on me(a bad thing). I'll iso him, but I'll probably stick with this.
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RVS this game was more nonsensical than normal, and that is an accomplishment. Beyond RVS, not much has happened.
I'm going to go ahead and ##Vote: Aere because his quick jump on Elieson after Manix doesn't feel right to me.
Using Elieson's use of selfmeta(if you can call it that) as a reason to vote for him seems really weak. The line of meta could be removed from Elie's post and nothing would have changed, I think he was just continuing with the nonsensical RVS theme.
Manix did it too, but I'm not as much worried about him than I am of Aere who just jumped right on.
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I really fill like people are trying to dig about my role and you aren't gonna get anything. Cause I'm not gonna say anything.
Way to stick by your guns, Shinori.
I think this claim is quite suspect(Shinori doesn't even have the most votes, I think) but the role is plausible.
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Of the two targets in question, Shinori and Helios, I would prefer a Helios lynch.
He was totally spineless with Elieson...He thought Elieson voted him, and he came up with some reasons to vote for Elieson. When he realized Elieson didn't vote for him, he forgot those reasons and unvoted? This doesn't add up to me. It doesn't seem like he's trying to find mafia and it seems like he is trying to please Elieson when he apologizes and unvotes.
Helios is at L-2 now so...I'll vote later in the phase, I don't really want this phase to end early if somebody decides to hammer.
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@Core:
While not a complete 360, still pretty strange. Why did you think Helios was seeming townish in the first place?
I never thought he was townish, you're misinterpreting it. I meant that Elieson must've been referring to Helios with one of his accusations.
Oh, and ##Unvote
Assuming we're split 8/3, worst case scenario would leave us at Lylo on D3. Say we NL today, that makes D3 mylo under the same conditions. Should we consider NLing? I know how passionately people oppose NLs but I"m just throwing it out there as an option.
Also this doesn't account for any extra unexpected town deaths.
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Let me ask this question so I can see how many people softclaim a PR
Why its a bad idea ^
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I don't really like Core's thoughts on Rein. A bit hypocritical, as he himself hasn't given off much.
I assume you mean Elieson?
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Well, the way you worded it I read it as "You're doing this because it avoids flak" Do you mean "You did this because you thought you would avoid flak?" Since if it's the latter I agree (because lists)
I didn't really find Rapier incoherent in Xenoblade, maybe lazy once people started finding him town but...
I meant the latter but didn't quite word it properly, sorry.
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Technically not true since Helios is the biggest wagon for posting bullshit fluff lists...
People say this every game and he always turns up mafia (well maybe not *every* game but this happened in MoMM and Xenoblade). I don't get a scummy impression from Rapier yet but srsly
Helios wouldn't have been able to predict that, though.
I was mafia with Rapier during Xenoblade and I thought he was more incoherent than here, so that's where I'm coming from.
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<list post stating obvious facts>
I don't like this, because you aren't contributing with this but you avoid the flak that comes with not contributing. Or at least that could be a motive.
Helios' other posts are ehh, not enough to make me suspicious when they stand alone. I wouldn't oppose a Helios lynch but I'm not going to pursue it.
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In Elieson, I see a lot of tunneling on inactives. I've never liked this...If I'm not here, I'm not here, and I'd assume the same goes for Helios(I hope). I take it as an easy way out. Exceptions exist of course, but in this case, I don't like it.
wimpy spineless sheeping and crap for opinionsOf course my posts were wimpy. Those were general assessments made in 5 minutes before work and 15 minutes after work before I went out again. You're grasping with this accusation.
What about the rest of the game? You made a post covering that...and it looks like you did what you're suspicious of Helios for doing.
I don't care that Elieson is voting for me, I'm suspicious.
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I don't like Iris' vote on Helios. I think it is opportunistic and the reasoning is poor. She says that Helios' posts are full of air. The two posts during RVS are excusable, so that just leaves the list post which I will agree with, but it's one post.
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I'm not sure how relevant this is, but Rapier is being more coherent than I remember him being as mafia in the past.
##Vote: Elieson because it's the best I've got right now.
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Because my feeling aren't strong enough to pursue. Maybe you missed my assessments so here they are:
I was slightly uneasy with Aere but whatever reason, but Aere's response seemed to have a bite to it and that seems like how town aere generally operates, so I backed off.
I want Paperblade to do more, because I feel like he's just going through the motions.
Don't worry, I plan to give more when I have time to reread and iso and shit.
Also, I don't believe I've mentioned anybody as seeming townish, you're referring to Helios there, I guess.
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I agreed with Rein's initial assessment of Aere. I withheld this because in my last two outtings in Anony and Xeno(I was maf), I did a lot of agreeing and got lynched D1 and C2...I'm not going to proliferate this trend.
This might sound hypocritical, but I feel like Paperblade is just doing enough to not attract attention, and I personally find it a bit scummy.
Rein's case against Cam is okay, but I honestly don't agree. Cam always seems lazy, just this time its coupled with a very clumsy claim.
@Helios-I'm pretty sure Elie is on me, not you.
@Elie-I'm not really sure why you're voting me. Because my comment on cam's role was a waste of space, or the lack of listing my suspicions? I don't have any real suspicions yet and I'm not going to grasp at nothing to satisfy you. Anything this early is usually based off of a "feeling" and I'm not ready to vote/lynch somebody off of a feeling.
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I could've posted more but I would've ended up just repeating what others have said, because they beat me to it.
You shouldn't have claimed cam, but it's too late for that.
Rein's assessment of Cam seems shallow. I don't see how this makes him more likely to be mafia. Unless you just meant that he is awful in general, which I sort of agree with.
I'm off to work now, hopefully there's something substantial to respond to when I get back.
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Eclipse hasn't been online yet...just saying.
I'm slightly weary of Aere for "missing" something so early in the game. Not just that he missed it, that he made it up to help back up his vote, and then asked for reasoning that was already explained. Rather a waste of time, really.
Lots of null elsewhere, though.
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As per usual, Shinori is being incoherent but I don't think it's scummy so I'm going to ignore it.
Rapier, do you think Shinori might be mafia or do you just want to pressure him into being more productive?
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so Aere and Zenax were town?
That's what I was thinking, at the end.
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##Unvote
Time is almost up, so I will ##Vote: Core
I know I'm town and just want this game to end.
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Innnnn
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I have a strong feeling that Psych is scum.
Aere is voting for Psych, so that makes him more likely to be scum, based on my assessment of Psych
Zenax is voting for me when scum is in lylo so I think that makes him more likely to be town fmpov.
honestly Proto could roll either way, but I'm happier with lynching Zenax than him now.
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##Vote: Zenax
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Hint: I was a bigger jackass than usual. Have fun trying to meta me based off of this game.
I had you more or less figured out based on the fact that you didn't come on your main account until some time into the game, when it was narrowed down to only ~2 people who still hadn't posted.
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/in
Dirk, M
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I too am waiting for the claim....
Paperblade, did you just now get on?