Deliriyum
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This game made me really mad
mostly self inflicted anger, though
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I still think Proto is town
##Vote: Proto
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I think he would've jumped onto Blitz if he were maf, so I think he is town
so my vote stands
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Whoops.
My point still stands.
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I think Proto is almost certainly town because he took his vote off of scum!blitz before deadline.
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##Vote: Proto
obvtown
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Camtech for confirmed scum
##Vote: Psych
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This was a game where I really needed to roll town for personal reasons, and of course I rolled scum. I found it hard to stay interested and I've come to realize that I'm awful as mafia.
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##Vote: Elieson
I was gonna say something similar
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I mean Kaoz/Elieson
I forgot who subbed in for who.
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Kaoz/Helios visited Levity.
@BBM-Its a coincidence that they happen to be voting for me. Most people are, anyways.
About Aere, if he thinks I'm scum, okay, but I would have teammates too that he could spend his time hunting.
@Xin: I suppose that makes sense.
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In a nutshell, this game is infuriating and I wish I had been subbed out.
I am town's watcher. I watched Levity but nothing suspicious happened so I'm not outting who visited her.
Sadly, my internet went out before I could send in my orders so I'll be idling this cycle.
At this point, I'm most suspicious of Manix, followed by Aere, then Xin
Manix has been active and all, that's great, but I don't think his scumhunting has been very well thought through. He says, "PLAYER X DID THIS, THIS IS SCUMMY AS FUCK." Why is said thing player X did scummy? Why would they do it if they were mafia? Etc. This applies to Shinori mostly, I feel like Manix is just exploiting the faults in a townie who isn't thinking, trying to push a mislynch.
Aere has completely tunneled me this whole cycle. iirc he hasn't commented on anybody else at all. Yes, I'm the center of attention, but seriously, look elsewhere.
Xin also worries me because of the post I responded to above.
With that, I will ##VOTE: MANIX
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Right now, I'm throwing out my past assessments and just looking at the last several pages
wow, are you holding a grudge for voting you the previous day?
anyways, going along with my reads.......
or not cause
HELIOS, I AM SO GLAD YOU GOT INTO THIS GAME, (too bad Bizz looks terrible because of this)
anyways, where were we
oh right,
Bizz/Helios was looking protown until she subbed out (yes, only because of the sub out, otherwise looks great)
Kaoz started off not looking good at the start of C1 and is looking much better now, however no reads on Elei yet (but Kaoz's aura continues)
Rapier, being weird (but that is what he normally does and gets lynched) so, wanted to test his reaction, didn't look very good, but does he EVER look good?
Manix was looking very good on C1, and after the Marth wagon, not so much (as in, looking very scummy)
Ether claimed vanilla on D1 and Shinori claimed to have a role (unless Ether was kidding, Ether could have been hiding something) and I am finding this very scummy
Prims didn't start off looking good at C1, but is looking much better now and I will agree with a some of stuff he has said so far (and there is a pretty good chance Shinori is indeed a harmful role)
Boron actually does sound like a someone not accustomed to the play style here and is more likely to be town
Cam seems like he is trying to scum hunt which makes him look pretty good
Aere and BBM seems very neutral which I am not liking (Aere looks worse than BBM in this manner though)
Core has been living in the back ground, but I didn't like his hammer on Marth, but Prims does have a point regarding that
anyways, for now
##Vote:Shinori
Hello list post that does little to explain why you voted Shinori. How does softclaiming=scummy?
mainly because of this post, where he is actually working to get reads on people. I know this is just one post, but IMO, it is a pretty good one
It's a good post because he is trying to get reads? He said himself that he already had reads but didn't want to share them. How is this pro-town? He cut corner's by only posting his assessment of the relevant players. I don't like that. I really hope that the length of Kaoz' post isn't deluding you but I'm afraid that might be the case.
Why is nobody else even thinking about Core? Has he even posted this cycle?
Why am I the only person you are thinking about?
First number is an Paper updated it at C2, second is now
Member Posts CT075 59/78 Xin Li 58/70 La Levedad 48/53 Bluedoom 45 Aere 44/53 Manix 37/58 Prims 35/40 Shinori 24/38 BigBangMeteor 22/36 Paperblade 20/26 Cap'n Flint 19/35 Delirium 18/18 Snike 10 Rapier 10/13 eclipse 3
guys there's a problem: Core hasn't posted a damn thing this cycle
##Unvote (don't remember if I already did this)
##Vote: Core
I've seen enough, really
Logic like this depresses me. No posts makes me obvscum? Okay, see how far that kind of thinking gets you.
Right. Finally bloody done, and holy crap I started getting a bit annoyed.
Let's start addressing my now updated (again) scumreads: Shinori/Core/Elie(Kaoz)
Beginning with Core:
oh frick sticks. lynch lynch lynch (and the rest of the post doesn't help a lot either)
This post is basically a sheep vote.
his entire post reeks of scum. Why the hell didn't we lynch Core C1
And on the fact that he hasn't posted a damn thing this entire cycle, and hello obvscum.
Still not liking Ether/Shinori all that much either, but at least he's present. All I've gotten from Core was a failed "reaction test", "Cam is most townish", and a very brief assessment on the situation ... and that was all in cycle 1. If you're not busy, then get over here and explain yourself!
##Unvote
##Vote: Core/Delirium
I have to be on my way to a meeting in literally three minutes, so I'll be back later.
@Bold: YOU HAVE TO BE JOKING ME. I'm sorry but you are infuriating. I am simply NOT going to place a new vote every time I post. If I'm not ready, I'm not fucking ready. You're scumhunting consists of filtering out these kinds of posts and it's fucking anooying and takes no effort.
@Underline: Maybe it's a sheepvote. If it is, whatever, but tell me, how do suspect somebody already being scrutinized without being scummy? This is another concept I refuse to agree with and annoys the hell out of me every time I see it. OT: If somebody could explain this to me so it doesn't make me so mad, that would help.
@Italics: You need to be more descriptive. I was suspicious of Marth ever since he accused Bizz of trying too hard, so I don't think voting for him when I'm the other lynch target means anything at all.
I still don't like the core wagon, I could care less what you say.
Also who says I didn't lie about my role. Supposedly I'm a vanilla to everyone else here.
I could have just been gambiting and you just admitted all of that shit yourself. Or I could be attempting to screw with mafia. but I don't like your response, specifically these parts here:
Also:
When are you not an asshole anyway? Lol.
Shinori seriously how does this help. Think before you post.
It didn't instantly clear him of suspicion. The reason I had voted Manix at the time was because I had demanded an explanation and he disappeared for a while. It was a push to "get in here and say something, now, because I'm done waiting", which is what he did. I never did get a direct response from him, and I'm not entirely happy about it, but at least I got something. I'm now voting Core because he needs some explaining to do and because I (and everyone else) have literally nothing on him this cycle.
Read as: Baaaaaaa! But really, if I already have several votes on me, obviously I need to come explain. Your vote doesn't really help. It's an attempt at looking useful without actually doing anything.
wtf Shinori
You are my vote target C3, unless there's enough support to do it C2. Because far out, you have made yourself look far worse since my post.
holy crap Core/Shinori for confirmed scum. Not even kidding; I barely did anything about Core C1, and suddenly he's town because of me considering it? Get out.
holy shit, good job giving scum information. ffs, this is why I hate early claims
guess what; this is pretty much an accurate summary. I omitted the part about you being town, because you aren't.
"I'm already not feeling this game here" is also fact, at least for me.
You are seriously reading Shinori as scum here? Him being scum implies that he has scumbuddies telling him to stfu. This does not appear to be the case. I think you are taking the easy way out by pushing Shinori.
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Sorry guys, I was without internet unexpectedly for a few days. I'm surprised I wasn't subbed out.
I'll be writing up a response post. Just a heads up.
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##Vote: Marth
This works for me because it doesn't involve lynching me and I've been suspicious of Marth for a while. I'm not going to waste my time listing reasons because they would be the same reasons that the 7 previous voters have posted.
@Aere: I didn't drop all charges against the Jedi/Manix playerslot. I am well aware that that is not adviseable, I said I would reassess after Manix had been in for a while. Manix has done well to reverse my opinion of Jedi.
I unvoted you because the vote was no longer productive. I'd rather lynch Marth and so would everyone else.
Your vote on Jedi was reasonable, I'll give you that.
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I can't believe my RVS vote is still an issue. I ninja'd you with my explanation before you asked for it and you promptly unvoted and said it was good enough. What changed?
Idk if you were around when mafia was a new thing here, but I was. People were pretty bad, and scum often didn't know how to react to getting votes. I was thinking of this when I decided to RVS vote Xin instead of anyone else. It was a poor attempt made poorer when it was immediately undermined. But, it was something, and it involved more thought/intention than pretty much all of the RVS votes
So I guess it was more in the transition between RVS and real voting. I meant for it to be a RVS vote though, since it was my first post and wanted to contribute something. Labeling that whole ordeal as me jumping on a potential Boron wagon is just silly.
##Unvote
Seriously, I think I could lurk all of D1 in future games and accrue less suspicion than I do when I try to talk. It's very frustrating.
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Aside from Snike these wagons are shit. A Marth lynch would be dumb, his ED1 wasn't worse than most of the game's and the only other thing he's getting voted for is having a subjective opinion.
spineless is a word that I might use
Aere is just screamingly obvious town if you read his posts. Are we really lynching somebody for finding a newbie scummy? I have yet to see a decent explanation of why Aere's posts have scum intent.
Aere's justification for voting has been consistently poor.
I was happy with his response and I'm not an ass when pressuring people.Core needs to go. Was totally spineless early on in response to BBM's defense, which looks like a lack of actual scumhunting.
Didn't commit to a vote in response to my post
What post?
and the buddying up to Levity + cheerleading on Marth here is just cringeworthy,
I voiced my suspicions of Marth before Levity voiced hers.
not to mention him playing both sides of Jedi/Aere so that he can wagonhop Aere later on.
I was suspicious of both of them, then pursued Aere when Jedi subbed out.
@Bizz-I was trying to be helpful. I didn't have a read on Snike so I was wondering how you got your 'feeling'. I wouldn't call it fishing because if you were willing to announce your suspicion I assumed you could also explain it.
Camtech's interjections strike me as more townish than scummy, because it seems like he's not concerned with how he appears.Also his reaction by questioning my assessment also strikes me as townish.
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Snike's 7 posts, with only 4 of them having any substance, don't sit right with me. He states his only reads are Ether, Bizz, and me. Ether, imo, had something going on, and that's not enough to base any votes or feelings off of. I think that leaves her null until her sub comes in. You think Bizz is obvtown, why? He voted Prims (RVS), then shot a hypocritical-prod vote on Rapier for being inactive. Then he votes me, with nothing more to back it up then 'lol your jokeline means something'. No, I've still never been mafia. Sue me for throwing a joke in like half the other players do in their posts. So I find Snike pretty scummy.
Marth looked kinda sketchy in the beginning, because he was so focused on getting all of the votes in that little wagon off of him. I wouldn't exactly take that as scummy, though, I think he was just a bit annoyed at the hastiness of the wagon, but he's been looking better lately. I think BBM is town too, even with his early tunneling on me. I find most earlygame wagons (the one on me now included) somewhat scummy, as I think 1+ wagoners are looking to push a mislynch.
So, ##Vote: Snike. You gotta have a bit more substance than that.
You list stuff about Snike, but I don't get why its incriminating. So he has 3 reads? That's 3 more than none. It sounds like your only reason for this vote is because Snike hasn't been very active, and I think this is weak reasoning. Kaoz and Rapier were also fairly inactive iirc, what exactly makes/made Snike scummier than them?
I know I do this a lot but I also don't like Aere's passive aggressive tone. Can anyone tell me if he normally does that when being pressured?
I still don't like Marth because off the top of my head, I can't remember anything he's said or done. It seems like he's doing his best to fit in.
Bizz and Camtech are still my biggest town reads.
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I thought it was for a reaction, like a reaction test, nevermind. That's scummy as all fuck.
It was a reaction test you dolt. I'm not going to vote for xin li then explain that its a reaction test before xin li reacts. That would defeat the purpose.
Aere wagon is dumb.
why?
I'm pretty sure I still want Core lynched.why?
I get the impression that you've been paying no attention, probably because you said it yourself. How can you have your mind made?
I'm going to read the exchange between Snike and Aere, and reassess.
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Reading Snike's side of the argument towards Aere is giving me bad feelings about him ): Something about it doesn't rub me the right way
Why does it rub you the wrong way? it's not very helpful if you don't explain.
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Thank goodness, Manix is here!
@Aere: I never said I thought you were town, so I guess it's more of a 90? Anyways, you still haven't given your opinion of other players, That would probably help.
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@Core- Jedi is subbing out, and his sub isn't going to know his mindset and thoughts.
Good catch, I missed that. I don't think that makes the playerslot less scummy, but I'll revisit it again next cycle after I see how the sub plays. ##Unvote
There's enough votes on Marth for now, so I will ##Vote: Aere.
He made the decision that Jedi was newbscum instead of newbtown so quickly with very little backing, and since then he has more or less ignored the other players.
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I disagree with your assessment. That's the first time I've commented on your suspicion of Prims, and I haven't been repeating anything else as far as I can tell.
I think nobody wanted to follow you in voting for Prims because they would be voting for Prims for your reasons, not theirs, which is easily chalked up as sheeping(myself included)
##Vote: Jedi
I wanted to wait for a response but that could potentially take a long time, so I'll just go ahead and vote.
So you're not suspicious of Aere at all anymore? what made you change your mind?
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##Unvote
##Vote: Core because you are spineless.
Care to expound on that? I haven't been around for many hours so I apologize for that.
I wanted to see more content from blitz because
a)he hadn't posted in a while
b)his content is a bit questionable, but if he continued that trend then I'd say it fits right into his meta(no offense)
Levity raises good points about Prims, I don't know enough about Prim's meta to know how right she is, but my guess is that she isn't making things up.
Camtech's interjections strike me as more townish than scummy, because it seems like he's not concerned with how he appears.
At this point, I'm suspicious of Marth, Jedi, and Aere.
Marth did a really poor job at justifying his vote for Levity. I agree that maybe she is putting in more effort than usual, but, i think it's silly to say that she's doing this just to look active. Her observations seem deep and well-founded(At least, the one on Prims is. The camtech one-liner is something different), I think Marth's accusation of Levity describes himself more accurately.
Jedi's OMGUS was pretty strange, and his withdrawal was weird too. Were you drunk or something? How can one vote make you emotional enough to cloud your judgement? Instead of asking Aere for his opinions, provide yours and help the town out.
Aere justified his assessment of Jedi as noobscum with saying he can be either but he's been "flying under the radar" so he's noobscum. Jedi has been cautious, yes, but, uhh, *points at Rapier and Ether* I also want to hear your opinions on players not named Jedi.
I'm not ready to vote yet.
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What exactly made me so scummy? I don't know what I would have done differently if I were town and that's why I was so frustrated.
I figured that I should just use my role and forget about trying to survive.