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Nino doesn't fly and doesn't have a join chapter that just feeds her easy kills.
Monkforcements do no damage to base Farina in her join chapter, it's hilarious.
inb4inefficient: If Nino goes in the argument, Farina can have her easy kills instead of promoting at base.
Only time experience matters is in ranked play, where Farina's extra movement is hardly relevant. You're not exactly rushing through chapters, although I will agree that Crazed Beast is a nice little farming chapter.
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Valter goes after Eirika, her head is impaled by a gigantic spear, and then dies immediately afterwards. Valter than grabs his fork, knife, and begins to roast her over a fire. After a while, Eirika is a perfect golden brown, and he begins to saw her apart, and enjoys munching on the scraps of-
You know what, some stories are best left untold.
"humor"
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Actually, that's 3 chapters later.
Thanks. Got my Eliwood/Hector chapter numbers mixed around. Still, if you're really hankering for an experience sponge, there are probably better units. Just pull someone off the bench.
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The Serenes community tends to overthink- and, as a result, overestimate- Fire Emblem 8. At the end of the day, it's just a horribly broken and imbalanced mess with an awful story and a complete lack of any character development. Every unit is a superhero, and the lack of a ranking feature basically means that the only way to enjoy the game is to go for breakneck efficiency runs. Just no redeemable features whatsoever.
6 and 7 are both great choices, however. I'm partial to 7, but 6 has difficulty and unit variety in its favor.
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Tough one. Not good for funds rank but the greatest EXP sink at that point in the game, if one is needed.
Nino comes one chapter later. And for free!
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Not very useful on ranked, not very useful on efficiency. Fun unit with solid bases, and the triangle attack can be a fun little side-show, but ultimately Farina's too little, too late. 3/10
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Because Eliwood is shit, Lyn without Wind Across The Plains Mode is shit and with is still a fucking myrmidon (admittedly Mani Katti rocks) and Hector isn't exactly the greatest fighter ever.
To get Geitz, you need a combined level of FIFTY.
And you'll go out of your way to do so, because the Linus version of that chapter is about fifty times superior in a ranking run, fifty levels or not.
I don't think most people have dondon in mind if they're doing that. And if they're rating low they don't necessarily even practice efficiency.
Influence is rarely explicit, brah
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So while your original statement was tongue in cheek and you didn't actually mean it, you're going to say that it's true and you believe it's true?
Something can be both tongue-in-cheek and still true, you know. Look, this is an irrelevant discussion that's derailing a dead topic. Bottom line, it's silly in my eyes to seriously evaluate a unit based on one narrowly-construed set of criteria.
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Though, training Eliwood and Lyn up to level 15 and Hector to 20 or something of equal annoyingness really takes some slowdown to do so, and in efficient play, it's not something that can be achieved easily. Efficiency and Ranked are the two major ways to determine a character's worth on these boards. While in ranked, you can probably get Hector/Eli/Lyn to the 50+ levels in order to get Geitz, some people rate only based on efficiency,
Exactly right. In efficiency, Geitz never exists; in ranking, he always exists; and in "basic" (i.e. casual) play, he exists 50% of the time. I just feel it's silly- and even a bit condescending- to seriously imply that Geitz never exists in "proper" FE7 play.
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What precisely did you say?
"All the cool kids mindlessly emulate dondon and his hyper-specific runthrough conditions."
[insert redundancy here]
Not complicated, but here's a second attempt at explaining it for you. dondon's made one particular way to play Fire Emblem stylish and relevant, but that doesn't preclude other ways to play. Of course, dondon himself realizes this, so his "Geitz doesn't exist" comment was obviously a playful one. I was simply pointing out that, since people tend to gravitate towards greatness, they've adopted those same standards as the only "relevant" ones, which is indeed mindless.
Not that I'm completely against donny emulation, mind. SF is always in need of more thoughtful posters and discussion.
EDIT: If you want some evidence that what I'm saying is 100% true (as usual), look no further than the dondon defense force (DDF) flaring up after my obviously sarcastic remark.
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Can you link me to any 0% growth playthrough other than dondon's? Go ahead. I'll wait.
Doing the playthrough yourself =/= adopting the conditions of the playthrough for character evaluations. Proof's in the pudding: why else would everyone be jumping aboard the Geitz Dun Exist bandwagon? Besides, dondon was being facetious, as was I. Time for some R&R, everybody.
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What we know for sure:
4 -> 5 -> 1 -> 2 -> 3
6 -> 7
9 -> 10
lol 8
I'm tempted to put the Tellius era at the very beginning, as it deals with the origin of the world at greater length and features the Laguz, who are never seen again. The Elibe saga can really take place anywhere, even between 4/5 and 1/2/3. 8 is just irrelevant.
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I don't think it's fair to rank him based on playthroughs where he doesn't exist. Ratings should measure how much they help you when you use them. Yes, poor availability can factor in to how much they help you, but taking into account the times where you don't use the units seems counter intuitive to me.
Didn't you hear? All the cool kids mindlessly emulate dondon and his hyper-specific runthrough conditions. Get with the program
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I'll hazard a serious response this time around.
Very solid pre-promo. Quality bases, and B-rank bows means instant access to the Brave bow (and without real competition). @dondon: He never exists in efficiency play, but always exists in ranking play, so that might as well be a wash.
Numbers are arbitrary, but I'll go with an 8/10.
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Are we talking ranked or efficiency? Either way, the only changes I can see happening compared to the HHM lists are enemy-first recruits (Raven, Guy, etc.) potentially going down due to lower base stats, and fliers going up a bit, as the weaker enemy stats make flight objectives much easier.
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All true, but I feel the inclination to mistrust Marcus is a natural one. There's a cardinal rule in gaming that applies especially to RPGs: if something is too good to be true, then it probably is. From personal experience, the first time I played FE7 (which was incidentally my first SRPG) and observed Marcus rolling over the early chapters, I simply assumed that his performance wouldn't last. Still didn't keep me from using him throughout the game, but I made sure to train a handful of other units.
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What if you're using Ardan?
Then you don't deserve a knight ring.
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One of the few places where save abuse is acceptable. Save after your Turn 1 arena responsibilities and, if the dice don't roll in your favor, have Ardan burn some RNs in the arena.
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The best advice I could give you would be to not overthink things. FE4 is not a particularly difficult game to beat, especially given its save function. Just use the pairings you like and make sure to squeeze every drop of experience out of the arena.
In your case, it might be helpful to check for new dialogues between characters after every seized castle. Your Holsety problem, for example, would've been spelled out for you in Ch.4 had you engaged a conversation between Levin and Sigurd after capturing Silesia.
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It's nice for blocking off Morph Lloyd in the final chapter; easy to pin him down and attack from range.
Bingo. There are other situational uses for the Light Rune, but this is the one that jumps out the most.
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I think that FE3 is considered to be an amazing classic in Japan. Think Link to the Past, but with FE.
Well yeah, but Japan's preferences aren't exactly... normal.
EDIT: Apparently Japan's moved on to bigger and brighter things.
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8/10, best unit in the game
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Fantastic link.
/hipster glasses
To be fair, it's easy to overlook the "optimal" way to play Fire Emblem, and I'm sure each of us has felt the don't-use-Marcus sentiment at one point or another. But still, this article is pretty embarrassing (and hilarious). Yet I still can't bring myself to call this the worst "guide" out there, because that one by IGN still exists. I'll see if I can find it. It's an unholy abomination of terrible advice and Nino dry-humping.
EDIT: http://boards.ign.com/fire_emblem/b5750/56493522/p1/?68
Also, who the hell likes Mystery of the Emblem the best? First time for everything I guess.
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bump
(Edit for mods: this wasn't an empty bump or anything like that; I plan to edit out this post with some substantive discussion once I meander through the entire 37-page epic over the course of the day. As someone on warn alert, hope I didn't break any rules!)
Rate the Unit, Day 30: Geitz
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lol so mad. You're missing the point anyway, so no reason to continue this "discussion."