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  1. Bunselpower
    And I wouldn't expect anything else, but it's good to know that the pairings tend to stay mostly on par. One final time, I have these pairs lined up, is there anything I can do to maximize effectiveness or efficiency? If I sacrifice someone's middling usefulness to maximize someone else's usefulness, I am all for it. I'll recruit all the kids, but if nah or somebody ends up on the trash heap I have no problem. I just don't think I can let avatar marry Cynthia, her voice is like sandpaper to my ears. Anyway, here they are. Chrom X Sumia Lucina X +Mag -Def Avatar Ricken X Lissa Frederick X Olivia Virion X Maribelle Gaius X Sully Lon'qu X Cordelia Henry X Cherche Stahl X Panne Gregor X Miriel Donnel X Tharja Vaike X Nowi With the kids paired up as such Owain X Nah Inigo X Kjelle Brady X Noire Cynthia X Gerome Severa X Yarne Morgan X Laurent I got over excited and started playing last night, and Virion and Maribelle are ready to be married, so by the time someone reads this, I could already have pairs made.
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    Thanks for for the response. I was just mainly concerned that if I ever did want to do a challenge run, that I would run into something like "Gaius!Kjelle is great, but only if you have limit breaker, otherwise she's worthless". If there is a particularly potent pairing that is great for a no dlc run that I could get at the cost of a lesser used playerthen I wanted to know. But it sounds as though, and I'm not sure why I thought otherwise (caution I guess), that it's not much bigger of a deal on pairings than it is with a full on run.
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    I think if I were to do one, it would definitely be a no dlc run. I would be interested to figure something out for that. I figure I'm probably going to be on this game for a while since I'm not to sure about fates. Plus, theory crafting is like my favorite thing. That's why I play Pokemon so much. So what are some other benchmarks for a no dlc run? Is it still comparable to the old ones for speed and other stats, or are they completely different? And are regular pairings acceptable still or, and I'm sure it's this way, ate some of them less effective than others?
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    Mmm, I was thinking about it sometime. That was gonna be my next line of questioning about the differences between them and what all changes. And then maybe what kinds of challenge runs there are.
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    Cool. That sounds like what I'll do then. And now Tharja's husband is gone, gonna need a new one. Could it be Donnel, rising from the ashes to give Brady that dark flier pair up bonus?
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    Well shoot the horse and slap me silly, I forgot about Henry's mods. Gerome it is then for Lucina or Cynthia, whichever one Avatar decides not to marry. That brings me back to Inigo. If I want to go physical, is it worth it to get him Stahl for Bowfaire, thus shuffling someone else to Panne or is Fred just as good?
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    The way I was looking at it was this. Kjelle and Severa basically have no desire or even option to ever be magical or anything. So I wanted to give them the most physical supports I have, namely Gerome and Yarne. And if Laurent is going to be considered as a berserker support, then Inigo deserves the same consideration, as he would be less of a waste than Laurent because of Laurent's potency as a magic support. Either way, there isn't enough pure physicality to go around. (well that looks weird written out) UNLESS, there is another configuration that will let me get a plus hit to Yarne without crapping out his mods too much so I can get Stahl over to Inigo. Libra and Virion seem like the only options, and Virion is currently giving a nice speed boost to Brady.
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    OK, since my last attempt sparked a two page long rabbit trail, I'm going to try again, this time with a shuffling of what I had last time. These are the ones I have pretty much lined up (you know, unless you guys tell me I'm off and then I'll change it). Lon'qu X Cordelia Stahl X Panne Henry X Cherche Gaius X Sully Chrom X Sumia Libra X Olivia Gregor X Miriel Avatar X Cynthia/Lucina Ricken X Lissa Virion X Maribelle And here are some plans for pairs I have been tossing around Lucina X Inigo Kjelle X Yarne/Gerome Severa X Gerome/Yarne (leaning Yarne for warrior bow faire option) Avatar X Cynthia And the two unmarried as of yet are Nowi and Tharja, with a pool of Frederick, Kellam, Donnel, and Vaike from which to choose. I was really wanting a double bow sniper with Noire, but Vaike seems to do more for Nah than Noire, giving her a much needed faire and the Hero class to use it. I'm leaning towards that, with Frederick going towards Tharja. Is there a preference here? Or is there an alignment that I'm not seeing that would help? Secondly, I have a tentative plan to pair myself with Cynthia, allowing Lucina to pair with Inigo. Looking at it, Inigo is very versatile with how he can support, and gets Galeforce. Here's a question, is there a reason why the extra point in magic and skill would push Laurent as the go to pair for Lucina? Inigo gets everything that he does, and has the bonus of Galeforce just in case I'm feeling like doing that. I didn't realize just how good Libra actually is for Inigo. Thank you in advance for all helpful comments, you guys are awesome.
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    I can actually help you somewhat here, as I'm calculating stuff now. http://old.serenesforest.net/fe13/calculation.html Another question for the group at large, 220 hit, I assume, is the magic number for 100 percent hit rate for all or at least most of the enemies, right?
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    The second one was worded pretty much exactly as I meant it, but I'll try again. What are the dual support bonuses for a married pair without DuSu+? What are the dual support bonuses for a married pair with DuSu+? I want to make sure I'm reading and interpreting the chart correctly, I'm interested in the differences.
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    Question, what,if anything, is the added effect of dual support plus on supports above an S support? In other words, what more does it do that a Max support pair don't already receive?
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    Who are some of Henry's best non Gerome/Cynthia kids? And do they stack up to Gerome in terms of usefulness at what they do? Also czar, thanks a ton for that post, that is immensely helpful.
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    Oh, I never thought of Gregor!Noire. That could free up Vaike to go back to nah, plus gets a decent Valkyrie to Noire. Then possibly move Lon'qu to Miriel or something, maybe not.
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    Alright, I'm narrowing them down now. A question or two to wrap it up. I have these pairs sorted out. +Mag/-Def Avatar X Sumia!Lucina Gaius X Sully Virion X Cordelia I'm fairly sure about these Ricken X Lissa Lon'qu X Maribelle Henry X Cherche Stahl X Panne Gregor X Miriel Vaike X Tharja And these I'm not sure about Donnel, Kellam, Frederick, Libra X Nowi, Olivia I'm leaning Libra Olivia, but I don't know. Any help, critique, changes, shuffling, is all appreciated. Especially with the ones in the middle section. Child pairings will be next.
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    Well, I was going to try to get Gregor somewhere else, but he really doesn't do that much better for the others than he does for Laurent, does he?
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    Which is preferred, Lon'qu Brady or Lon'qu Laurent? Or some other Lon'qu child? Assume Virion has taken Severa.
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    Yep, I answered my own question as soon as I hit send, but didn't want to double post haha.
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    So does that mean that Stahl Gerome with Hit +20 and bow faire as a warrior could be as good as Henry Gerome considering he bypasses the wt?
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    What is the role of vantage in optimizing? Should you strive for one on each lead? One on each backup? It seems like a good skill to have on one member of a pair, but maybe not one worth fretting over.
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    Oh there's probably no way nah gets that much facetime in apo.
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    OK, so really any boost is a big help. The reason I ask is I don't know whether to use Stahl on nah or Yarne. I'm leaning toward Yarne, but those classes would be no joke on nah. The biggest difference I see is Yarne gets berserker axe faire, which makes much better use of hit plus 20, and while imperfect, nah gets slow and quick burn, so she can take someone else. Then comes me trying to get Henry off Gerome to put him on Owain, but that may not happen. Plus my Lon'qu Gregor decision. Oh well, I love this aspect of the game.
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    So for someone like Yarne or Gerome, how much does he need his hit rate boosted? Obviously it's situational, but are we talking on the scale of 20+ or something closer to 10?
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    Perfect, that is exactly what I was looking for. Then I have no problem moving Lon'qu elsewhere. Probably Laurent, maybe give Gregor to someone else. But who...
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    I kept going over it and kept coming up with the same result as well. I think the anti Anna unit was the draw of the extra skill and speed, but I don't care about that. It seems like Lon'qu would be a much bigger boost to other units than he is to Severa, who basically needs mods. Lon'qu is the one guy that can get a kid with an inherent +1 speed mod to the coveted +5. Meaning now Inigo, Noire, Laurent, all get a shot at it.
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    I thought this was answered, but I can't find it looking through the last few pages. Is Lon'qu!severa that much better than Virion!severa? I ask because Lon'qu would be great on Brady or Laurent (would make Laurent into a tight support unit with wyvern and vantage, and heck, why not pass through assassin for the heck of it). This frees up Gregor to go somewhere else and gives me that sweet critical build option if I want it. Am I losing out on anything overall with that thinking? Both with Severa or Laurent? Severa keeps her plus 5 threshold and Laurent becomes a very potent support.
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