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This Challege quest was pretty simple, though I suppose it makes sense as I heard it was one the first Challege Quests. Foreigners make this CQ pretty easy.
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4 hours ago, DehNutCase said:
Obligatory theorycraft warning, since I don't play on JAP:
Personally I prefer her being Avenger. Beserker would've been ideal, but if Nobu kept her kit and bases as a Beserker she'd be eating Arjuna Alter's lunch.
Alter Ego's a fun class, but only doing 1.5x damage to cavalry while dealing .5x to Knights is deceptively limiting. Beserkers deal 1.65x to cavalry because of the Beserker 1.1x damage modifier, so the main advantage of Alter Egos would be a bigger hp pool in exchange for not doing well when knights are mixed in. Nodes where there's only Cavalry have heavy overlap with nodes where there's only one class, meaning you can often run a 2x advantage class rather than a 1.5x advantage class. And in mixed nodes Beserkers are just flat out better for raw damage without randomly getting gimped by knights.
For Nobu in particular being weak against knights is a big issue because a big part of her farming kit is her triple buster deck, if she can't consistently lead the turn with one of her Buster Cards then the team's damage output suffers a lot, so you want her to be in a class that always does consistent damage. In my opinion, not doing .5x damage is a lot more important than doing 1.5x or even 2x damage for someone like Nobu, since she needs to click her face cards to properly support the team.
A Buster lead is worth somewhere between 30-50% Atk Up in terms of damage*, but if your first card for the turn does 50% damage rather than 110% (Avenger modifier) the bonus is a lot less than it could be.
*A buster lead adds the same amount of damage regardless of what type of card it is, but weaker cards like Quick would need a bigger % on the Atk Up to add the same amount of damage.
As is Arjuna Alter is better than Avenger Nobu for most situations, but between Nobu's better Atk, slightly more supportive kit (10 stars/turn), and Avengers being ideal for Beserker* and Ruler maps there are definitely situations where Nobu's the better pick. On the other hand, Alter Ego Nobu would be basically strictly worse than Arjuna Alter, since her 1k Atk lead disappears once she loses the Avenger 1.1x modifier, and Arjuna doesn't really have survivability issues thanks to his guts. Alter Ego Nobu would be better at gathering her own stars, but as a secondary damage dealer star draw isn't as important, and to properly take advantage of consistent Buster leads you want another damage dealer in the starting lineup anyway.
*Beserkers don't do 2x to themselves, only 1.65x, so Avengers are actually better at smashing Beserkers than Beserkers or Foreigners.
Gotta admit, I actually forgot about the Berserker class when I wrote that. It’s actually the better choice and it would have been amazing with Star Gathering skill. And make her of the Man attribute while were at it so she can deal amazing damage to Sky enemies.
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Sorry for the double post, but I had to post this, it’s a long read and credit goes to Shinichameleon, but it’s a spicy subject!
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On 5/6/2020 at 11:37 AM, DehNutCase said:
My main issue with Avenger Nobu is that her NP doesn't have an interlude, the anti-Sky buff is neat, but really not too important either way due to Sky being one of the rarer attriutes.* (Both her and Okita seem to have gotten 'safe' small upgrades that don't really change them too much.)
Sky is not that uncommon, and I think all of Avenger Nobu problems would have been fixed if she had been an Alter Ego. Look at how many Sky enemies are of the Cavalry classes and Berserkers! Books, Hands, Doors, Ghosts, Demons, regular enemy Valkyires, Automatas, Golems. That would have given her such a wide range!
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7 hours ago, Jingle Jangle said:
I want to be a bit more patient before completely writing her off. Until the update comes out, we don't know the actual numbers of the buff. Hopefully it can be more than 50%. With the amount of divine enemies in the lostbelts. it's pretty helpful.
Okita alter got +attack up (3 times / 3 turns) on her 2nd skill . She could use it, since before she had a hard time clearing tougher waves by her self.
And zerker Nobu got a np buff (higher dmg special attack against divine enemies and adds buff that turns field to burning (3 turns)). With that I assume it put her in the top 5 berserker nps . Being able to punch dinve of most classes is a treat and able to make her 3rd skill better after np gives her more utility.
Summer Nobu got the best out of the bunch. Need to see where does Okita and venger Nobu numbers are. I was expecting og Nobu and Okita to get some attention, maybe next time.
They just found the numbers and Maou Nobu’s damage against Sky enemies is just 50%. That’s pretty disappointing.
And like you said, Summer Nobu got the best out of them because poor Okita Alter is still outclassed by Kingprotea.
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See, the problem with war is that it not only causes death during battle. There’s also death caused by famine, since people have less food during wars, disease, wars are great way for diseases to spread, death due lack of resources, war may cause people to lose their homes and thus people die from bad weather, war can cause people to lose the member of the family that provided to them, war can cause people to lose their jobs. War also makes bandits attacks more frequent since the soldiers are busy with war. Plus enemy soldiers themselves often pillage and kill. So those death tolls you read aren’t entirely accurate. So it’s entirely possible that that during the five years of war in Fodlan, millions would have died. There’s no such thing as a good war. That’s why people give Edelgard so much shit for starting a war. The deaths caused by her war doesn’t only come from battles. Damages caused by wars can last decades.
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With the Gudaguda 4 rerun announced and which started today, Maou Nobu got a strengthening. On Fire Field, her NP gains [Special Attack vs Sky/Heaven Attribute]
Wow Maou Nobu’s buff is pretty…underwhelming. While a lot of Sky enemies are also Divine, not every Divine enemy is Sky. So it really doesn’t cover a wide base at all. In fact, no Ruler other than Luvia has this combination I think, so Nobu can’t use it to it’s full advantage. And Maou Nobu even has an attribute disadvantage against Sky! Holy crap, what goes through DW’s mind when it comes to Maou Nobu?! Why they have the worst ideas regarding her?! -
If anything, I would say her long life is the reason why she couldn’t let go of her trauma. She spent a millennia knowing that the ones responsible for the genocide of her people and her mother are still around, multiplying and still plotting their deaths. How can you get over a trauma when what caused your trauma is still around, still trying to cause further trauma?
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On 4/27/2020 at 4:59 PM, Rezzy said:
I started playing FGO a few months ago. I'm still a noob, but if anyone wants to be my friend, my ID is 005253296.
The only 5*s I have currently are Arthur, Drake, and Waver, but hopefully they can be useful. If you do send a request, send me a PM, so I can give you priority over randoms.
I’ll send a friend request to you as well! My name there is Luiz.
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I got Achilles and damn he’s good. One thing I noticed is that he is rather self-sufficient. Is it true that he’s one Quick Servants that least rely on Skadi? Not to say he doesn’t completely need her, he does, but compared to say, Berserk Lancelot and Dantes, Achilles doesn’t rely on her as much.
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On the subject on whenever Sothis is or it isn’t a god, I suggest we don’t look at it as if gods are a sort of race, but rather if what they can do defines them as god. Considering Sothis can reverse time, create life, heal the land and travel between dimensions, I think it’s safe to assume she is a god.
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The new Servants were release and here their stats and skills:
Dioscuri
Stats:
Lv 90: HP 14824, ATK 11840
3rd highest HP out of Sabers, tied with Nero Bride. 6th highest ATK out of SabersInternals:
QQAAB, A Noble Phantasm
Q-5, A-4, B-2, E-5 hitcounts
NP gain: 0.51
Passives:
Magic Resistance A: Increase debuff resistance by 20%
Riding: Increase Quick Card performance by 8%
Mad Enhancement B-: Increase Buster Card performance by 7% maybe, I’m told B- rank is new so they’re just assuming
Avenger B: Increase own NP gen rate when taking damage by 18%. Reduce party’s debuff resistance by 8% except self
Oblivion Correction: Increase crit damage by 6%
Self Replenishment (Magic) :Charge own NP gauge by 3% every turn
Double God Double Core?: Increase own damage by 225, increase own NP Gain/Star Gen by 5%, does have the symbol for the Divinity passive
Skills:
1: Generate 5%-10% NP Gauge when using Quick Cards (3 turns). Generates 5-10 Crit stars when using Arts Cards (3-Turns). 8-6 CD
2: Teamwide 10%-15% NP damage buff (1 turn), 10%-15% ATK buff (1 turn), and debuff immunity (1 time, 3 turns). 7-5 CD
3: Increase own Quick/Arts performance by 10%-20% (3 turns), Grants self evasion (1 turn). 8-6 CD
NP:
8 Hits
Grants self Ignore Invincibility
Ignores defense
Applies Quick/Arts card resistance debuff (10% -30%) scaling with overcharge
Caenis
Stats:
LV 80: HP 11532, ATK 9896
3rd lowest HP out of 4* Lancers, 2nd highest ATK out of 4* LancersQQABB, B Noble Phantasm
Q-3, A-3, B-3, E-5 hitcounts
NP gain: 0.86
Passives:
Magic Resistance : Increase own debuff resistance by 15%
Mad Enhancement Ex: Increase own Buster Card performance by 12%
Poseidon’s Core?: Increase own damage by 225, Increase own Arts Card performance by 8%, does have the symbol for the Divinity passive
Skills:
1: Increases own Atk 20%-40% (2 turns). 7-5 CD
2: Increase own ATK 10%-20% (1 turn) when normal attacking and decrease enemy ATK by 10% (1 turn) when normal attacking (3 Attacks, 3 turns). 7-5 CD
3: 2000-3000 damage cut (3 times, 3 turns) and Guts 1000-3000 (1 time, 3 turns). 8-6 CD
NP:
3 hits
Increase NP damage by 10%-30% (Scaling with overcharge)
Grants 50% crit damage buff
Gotta say the twins look impressive but Caenis seems really mediocre.
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1 hour ago, DehNutCase said:
Bear in mind Anastasia has a debuff resistance down effect on her Mana Burst & a stun stapled to her NP battery. Her kit is actually pretty amazing. It's a bit hard to use, but it's pretty well-rounded for everything you might want to use her for.
For me, Sieg has the slight issue where he's competing against Nitocris as a farming caster, and it's pretty hard to beat High Speed Divine Words when it comes to spamming NPs. He's still good, though, especially if you happen to be farming dragons and Instant Kill the ability to proc instant kills isn't a factor.
Not saying Sieg is better than Niticris, but as a guaranteed NP5 he’s very reliable. And there’s the chance of Instant Kill not working which can mess up farming. I mean Nitocris is still the best farmer Caster overall, even better than some SSRs, but Sieg is still a valuable addition. While I do think Anastasia has a pretty good kit, I still think Sieg’s NP5 and NP looping are better.
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21 hours ago, Glaceon Mage said:
It’s kinda ironic how Sieg is the better AoE Arts Caster compared to Anastasia who currently is on a banner in NA. In terms of gameplay, there’s little reason to pull for her when Sieg is coming so soon.
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I’m playing Lostbelt and it’s pretty interesting...but why is it that no matter the class they are, Hydra enemies are always a pain to fight?
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2 hours ago, Jingle Jangle said:
3 buffs to coincide with the Apocrypha event. Mordred got a buster crit absob alongside with crit boost to replace her Instinct. At this point she is a more common Siqurd. I'll be shocked if saber illly gets an instinct buff soon.
Vlad has 2 guts with a np gain boost. Good for the odd man zerker. Soon vanilla guts will be improved on? I'm okay with that.
Amakusa has a targetable NP gain buff. Solid for him and other teammates. Shame that nonremovable buffs weakens his np.
Hopefully there will be a part 2 to the strengthening for the other Apocrypha servants, quite a lot of them.
Mordred’s buff is kinda interesting, though I think the star bomb should give her more stars. Buster star gather is good, but I feel like she still depends on support to get crits. It would have been an amazing buff if Mordred had a gorilla deck.
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The Jack animation update though...ugh, she looks to tall.
Changing the subject, for those that play JP any gameplay tips for the first Lostbelt? Any particular boss we should watch out for? The only one I have some of how it works is the final Anastasia battle. I have good Riders, like Ozy and Kintoki to deal with her, the only problem is her Ignore Invulnerable she can active before her NP. It’s gonna be a pain to deal with.
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3 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
Perfection is a lack of flaw. Meaning that there would be nothing to fight against. Meaning that there's no need for "change" in the first place.
I don't need to simply look at a mentality and "give in". Because everyone has their own beliefs. Those beliefs can be seen as good or evil, or are objectively that way, but that does not mean that sacrifices are avoidable. You already contradicted yourself by already saying that individuality is that people fight for what they believe in. But NO ONE ever believes in the exact same thing. Because no two people think the same. Because no one is the same. Because we have our identities, we have our beliefs, that we come into conflict with one another. And no matter what, one person's happiness is another person's sadness.
This is why I say that trying to think that you can avoid sacrifice entirely as arrogance. Because all paths will hold sacrifice. That's why it's inevitable.
Trying to think that the mentality of knowing it's inevitable is wrong is in itself also wrong. It's inevitable because we, as individuals, also hold our own beliefs.
All you've succeeded on is proving my point. And guess what, the more you try to insist that you are right and I'm wrong means you're self-righteous and think you know better than others and overall push your beliefs onto others.
Sothis said to choose your own path. Problem is that you are choosing to fight a war, meaning you WILL trample on lives no matter what side you are on. Does not matter if choose to fight for or against Edelgard. You will still kill people. You will still trample on the lives of innocents,. And in the end, you are not free of bloodshed and sacrifice. Because guess what? Those people you fought against ARE the sacrifices.
And you know what makes that worse? Because Rhea always uses the goddess as justification for her actions. She insists that she acts in the will of Sothis, which is false. Sothis told her nothing, but Rhea uses her name.
I think the desire not give up is itself a flaw.
And let me tell something you something about individuality. The idea that everyone has the same ideals and beliefs? It freaking terrifies me. We have different beliefs and that’s good thing. But that doesn’t mean different that those with different believes can respect one another. Which is why we fight sacrifice, so that the belief of another isn’t sacrificed.
Perhaps I am pushing my belief onto you but accepting sacrifice means pushing your beliefs in others as well.
It’s not that want you accept that I’m right and you’re wrong. I don’t know better than you. I just want you to understand empathy. Because the moment we forget that, there’s no point in fighting for ideals.
But I’m tired of this discussion, you may me hypocrite for giving up when I said to never give up or accepting the inevitable but I don’t want to disrespect your beliefs. And if we keep this going it’s gonna end up ugly and I don’t hurt anyone.
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5 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
The reason it is "inevitable" and why it will always be an "absolute" is because we are IMPERFECT.
And imperfection will ALWAYS lead a way that you can never fight without sacrifice.
Unless you are claiming that we mortals are perfect and therefore are actually able to create something that is perfect, which is absolutely false.
It's not giving up. It's acceptance of the entire concept of individuality and imperfection. It's why we humans always struggle, fight, destroy, create, learn, change, grow, and so forth. Because we are imperfect. Because we have to always struggle and live and keep trying to learn to grow. Trying to believe that you can accomplish things without sacrifice by just trying hard enough is pure arrogance.
And this discussion here is only proof of that. We hold different beliefs, but here you are, insisting that your belief is right, while my belief is wrong. I call your belief naive, you call mine dangerous.
Maybe you're right, or maybe you aren't. But who are you to judge what is right and what is wrong? Do you know what is the absolute right thing is? No. You don't.
Because you're human. You're no god.
And circling back to Edelgard, this is why I support Edelgard. Because she's no god, understands this, but believes in what she believes is the right thing to do.
And you know what Sothis, the "god" of the world says?
She insists that you choose your own path.
Interesting, isn't it?
It’s because we’re imperfect that we fight against inevitability and sacrifice in the first place! If we’re were perfect we would just accept things as they were.
And you know what individuality is? It’s fighting for what you believe for. Giving into the “it’s inevitable” is giving into the herd mentality that sacrifice is always necessary. The reason we struggle and always try to learn and grow is so we can’t deny what’s inevitable. That accept that things are inevitable, that sacrifice is necessary and that we have to do evil to destroy a greater evil is what’s pure arrogance.
And maybe I don’t know what the right things is, but I know that hurting others is wrong no matter the reason. And you know why? Because I’m a human, not a god.It because I’m human that I’m capable of feeling empathy. It’s what drives to find a way not to hurt others.
Sothis said to chose your path, but she never said to trample on the path of others.
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22 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
The moment you choose to fight, innocents WILL die.
That is INEVITABLE.
No matter how much you try to avoid hurting innocent civilians, they WILL get caught up. Why? Because people you fight might also be innocent, and are just people trying to protect their loved ones. You kill them, or they kill you. And tyrants will always make innocents suffer even more in the fight.
Your line of thinking is one of trying to think that change is possible without any sacrifice, but that's not how it works. Sacrifice is something that will always happen. You don't even know it.
Wanna know why? Because to desire change is because the way current things are going is horrible. Because people are suffering and dying. But to attain that desire for change, people were ALREADY sacrificed for that mindset to be born. And then in the process to change, more people were sacrificed. And more will continue to die and be sacrificed.
Thinking that your hands are clean that you did nothing wrong and made no sacrifice is the words of an ignorant idealist who tries to excuse himself.
And slow change will still result in people dying and being sacrificed still.
No. This is an absolute. Because people are mortals.
We are imperfect. And trying to act like there is a perfect route is the most foolhardy belief there is.
In the end, you are still stuck on the Evil Paradox:
There’s no such thing as inevitable. If you fight as hard as you can, then you can avoid hurting innocent people.
The “it’s inevitable” idea is the mindset of someone who already lost and gave up. It’s not resolve, it’s not courage. It’s giving up. If you accept that you have to do evil to do good, then you never believed in the ideals you’re fighting for anyway. That means you were never interested in helping others in the first place. You only believed in a fake ideal. And an ideal is nothing without people.We may be imperfect, but if we believe that there’s is a way to help everyone without sacrifice, then there will be. It’s because people believe there’s no way to save everyone that you end up thinking sacrifice is inevitable. There’s no such thing as an absolute. “It’s inevitable” it’s an ignorant mindset. Realism and optimism are not mutually exclusive.
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11 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
That way of thinking is even MORE dangerous. It's submission. It's allowing bad things to happen and remove the free will of people.
If people cannot act on what they believe is right, then you will submit to tyrants. You will sooner kiss the feet of a tyrant than stand to oppose them.
If you are afraid of doing the right thing out of fear, then you are a horrible person that allow people to continue to suffer regardless. If people are going to suffer no matter what, then you might as well make a decision to act on doing the right thing.
Albert Einstein even said: "The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch and do nothing."
Submission? I never said it was submission. If anything it’s the opposite. You can oppose tyrants without hurting innocent people! The moment you accept people are gonna get hurt is the moment you give into submission. You should fight tooth and nail to find a way to not hurt innocent people. It’s not doing nothing! It’s doing everything in your power to achieve freedom with hurting innocent people. Because it’s those innocent people you’re fighting for in the first place! To accept that innocent people are getting hurt no matter what it’s what evil and it’s what going to destroy the world!
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9 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
I wasn't even talking about Edelgard there.
Yes, actions have consequences. But human beings have always done a lot of shitty things and a lot of good things. But there's no such thing as change without sacrifice. Even the non-violent methods of Ghandi and Martin Luthor King Jr. were both born after bloody wars and then enduring a lot of suffering and losses, and they also died in the end.
And it's not about forgiveness, either. You can live life never being forgiven.
But do you worry what other people think to the point that it will stop you in what you believe is the right thing? Are your ideals going to be stopped cause some people hate you or can't forgive you?
No.
Because people are people. They have their thoughts, you have yours. And if you always let fear of others stop you from doing what you believe is right, then you never get anything done.
That way of thinking is extremely dangerous. There can be change without sacrifice. And I never said you should let what other people think stop you from doing the right thing. You shouldn’t.
But the moment you start hurting someone, then it stops being the right thing! It’s not a matter of that people are going to hate you or will not forgive you.
But if you act recklessly because you’re believe you’re doing the right thing, you’re gonna end hurting people!
It’s not fear of others that should stop you, it’s fear of hurting others that should stop you.
Rebellion isn’t worth it if you’re hurting innocent people. You can rebel without hurting others.
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2 minutes ago, Darkmoon6789 said:
There is a difference between judgement and necessity. Maybe I should actually explain my views on justice and the justice system to make you understand. In my mind. The purpose of the justice system isn't necessarily to punish criminals, it is to incarcerate those who are a danger to other people and hopefully eventually rehabilitate them. Just because I forgive someone doesn't mean I say we shouldn't serve any time, I am saying they should still be respected as human beings. Regardless of what anyone has done and will not deny them their basic humanity. What really matters isn't what someone has done the past, it is whenever they would be a danger to people again.
I could even rarely get behind the use of the death penalty, but never with the motivation of someone's deserves to die, only with the motivation, that someone needs to die to protect other people. I think the primary example I would bring up with this would be the Joker from DC comics, I would actually he should be executed, but not because he necessarily deserves to die as much as in order to prevent further victims. I think he needs to considering how often he escapes and kills more people.
With Edelgard, this situation is different as she is a monarch and therefore is operating under completely different rules from regular citizens, a declaration of war is actually a completely legal action in monarch like her has the right to do, but also has severe consequences for the loser and I think she accepts that. Even countries without the death penalty normally still reserves this right for their enemies in a war.
I guess I am essentially trying to say that forgiving someone for a crime and potentially allowing dangerous people to walk the streets are completely different things. Still, if someone is genuinely remorseful. There is a good chance mate can be rehabilitated and will likely one day be functioning members of society again
Sorry for the double post but let me answer this.
Honestly? I agree with you. I don’t like the death penalty, that no matter how bad the crime everyone deserves to be treated with human decency and I believe that if a person shows remorse, in a way you can forgive them. But not completely. Your way of think is beautiful. It really is. And like I said before, I agree with you. But your way of thinking is also extremely dangerous. Because it makes it very easy for people to take advantage of you. -
18 minutes ago, omegaxis1 said:
Oh? Did America pay for its crime of dropping a nuke onto Japan? Did every German pay for the Holocaust?
What makes a "crime"? Laws. Rules. But if you are a rebel, like the America's Independence War, they are the criminals. They are the ones that are breaking the laws of society, and ultimately started a war. Are they justified? They won, so yes, they are.
Look, let’s drop the Edelgard, Three House and Fire Emblem discussion. We can back to in later if you want. Right now, let’s talk about what you said. You’re twisting my words. When I said to him that his way of thinking it’s not healthy, it’s because if you willing to forgive any crime as long the person shows remorse and had good intentions it makes you easily manipulated. And actions have CONSEQUENCES. No matter what. And don’t bring up rebellion and war crimes, you know it’s entirely different from what I talking. I’m talking about individual people not countries. You can’t forgive everything.
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It’s a great feeling to finally use your own Servants to clear a CQ. Also, CQ usually gives Crystalized Lores instead Summon Tickets, this one is just unique.