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  1. Let's pull this back around - while I do like a zesty debate about the more general concepts behind literature interpretation, this has been over a page now so let's try to get back to the thread's topic. If people want to continue a more generalize literature debate, definitely feel free to make another thread to reignite the conversation, but I think we've gotten a bit out of this thread's reasonable zone

  2. 4 minutes ago, Ottservia said:

    On this fine, yeah I will admit I was rather harsh which I apologize for. However, if you simply respond “it’s just my opinion” to me prompting for an explanation that is by no means a good argument at all and I am well within my rights to say that it is. Cause it is!!! You’re not arguing me at all! You’re doing nothing but deflecting my argument under the guise of subjectivity when that’s not how that works

    I agree if you had just asked for an explanation and they had responded "it's just my opinion." In that situation, I would've been like "well, that doesn't help the discussion at all" but that isn't exactly what happened. If someone says I'm wrong and also tells me in the same breath that I'm bad at arguing at the beginning of an interaction, I'm more likely to address the attack against my knowledge of argumentative rhetoric than entertain the call for evidence. One is a lot more insulting to me, which distracts from the discussion at hand. You feel?

  3. @Ottservia There is merit in asking for someone to provide some evidence because you're interested in hearing their opinion more in depth but it's not as productive to just tell them they're bad at arguing as a whole because they didn't expand enough yet. That is not productive. That went from 0 to 10 too fast

    You could stop at just "what other supports are like Kellam's, do you think?" and let them provide more in-depth detailing about their opinion, not making it into a critique about their argumentative methods. That lets you address that you don't think it's enough information and you want more without making it weird, man

    Remember a good, productive discussion doesn't necessarily mean everyone tosses out an air-tight argument with bibliography off the bat. Sometimes you gotta prompt each other and that's okay

  4. I'm not a fan, really. It takes me out of my zone immersing myself in the story when there's this black void of dialogue where people are responding to stuff that wasn't actually said, especially if the writing is such that the characters the silent protag talks to have to use their one-sided dialogue to clunkily signal what the silent protag was saying, doing, or emoting

  5. 4 hours ago, Hirokaski said:

    be like that but my opinion still stands and there are ONLY two genders male and female  no neutral  your born a male your a male  transition to a femal your a female simple science really this whole thing is just because some jumped up sjw thiught lets give people more thigns to be bithcy about at this was born.

    imnot homophobic  like i said i have gay frinds and they are hilarious so are my lesbian friends but this stupidity has to stop

    No one can stop you from holding your opinions, but we cannot abide by people tossing about rhetoric that may make members of our forum feel uncomfortable existing here. If you are unhappy with this being an inclusive space to people of different identities, this might not be the forum for you. Even if you do not think it's "real", you will have to at least respect that others will be expressing non-binary identities and we will be accepting of them and expecting others to not make them feel unwelcome.

    Anyone who is dismissive with the sole crutch of "it's simple science" or other such non-specific rationales often has a shallow grasp of complex topics. Even the scientific topic is not actually "simple." I encourage you to not present yourself as of those people.

  6. 34 minutes ago, SRPG Tryhard said:

    Cut the chase. Why are the insults directed at me still up in this thread?

    I made it quite clear that anything further should be in DM, thank you. I will not respond to this topic in this thread. Anything further on this topic put here specifically will unfortunately have to be a warning.

  7. Just now, SRPG Tryhard said:

    Oh no you probably didn't notice. I did engage them, but apparently as soon as they got offended for being proven wrong they started throwing insults around to derail the thread from reaching a conclusion they dislike and got away with it because they are mods. 

    The offending posts from Integrity are still up by the way. Who are you kidding?

    I certainly have been going through the thread as it was reported as my time permits - if you are referring to the previous thread. I am not sure what mod behavior you were seeing that was so pervasive, as the mods were not active in that thread not were the mods throwing insults in that thread. 

    If you mean this thread, there is nothing in this thread that has proven anybody wrong, so that is likely not anyone's motivation, nor has there been a recognizably conscious or successful attempt at derail barring this conversation about it.

    Yes, the posts are up, and that does not negate what I said. I recognize you are frustrated, but I am not sure what you expect. I will not provide evidence of what action was taken against any other user. If the only evidence you accept is whether or not you can visibly see that a post was hidden, you will of course never think anyone's ever done anything, because we don't always do that.

    If you want to talk through further onus with this or the previous thread, please DM me or another staff member so we don't derail this thread's attempt at productive discussion from here on out. I will always hear out concerns.

    This goes for everyone else, too. Any further talk of this specific topic should be directed to DM with a mod if it is an issue. If it is in this thread specifically, it will be treated as a derail from now.

  8. 2 hours ago, SRPG Tryhard said:

    Haha wow an actual moderator and admin throwing insults because they don't like what people are discussing. After they were proven wrong about what is happening in the game as others already proved by citing in game text. 

    And they DID derail the thread with insults as soon as they started losing the argument. Like babies that are throwing a tantrum when they don't get what they want. None of the reports for literal insults are going through of course, why would they, the mod can insult people and get away with it.

    No, Integrity, the thread is not a shitshow. It is YOU who is intolerant and toxic.

    There is an issue I'm seeing right now that you seemed to be locked in your interpretation of genius and you're not engaging with people who think otherwise. If you think that people are just babies who are throwing tantrums as they lose an argument, why would you make another thread about it? Discussion of theme could be fun, but it's not fun if nay-sayers are considered just 'babies.' 

    This thread has been fine so far. The last one was not, and the mods had not been engaged in that one until they were summoned by users who were complaining about user behavior.

    If you are taking issue to moderation, please contact others on the staff in DM if you wish to discuss it. There is no purpose in saying things like "none of the reports will go through," as you have no way of knowing how we handle reports against other people. 

  9. I'm not sure I'd call portraying a theme fairly straight as "genius." It's always fun to realize a theme and find evidence to support it, but calling it genius requires a little more substantial argument. Just uncovering that there is a theme is not what makes writing genius, if it is that. Any theme you can uncover legitimately is going to have evidence in the writing - if it didn't, it... wouldn't... be a theme. What about the portrayal makes it deserve applause outside of 'hey, I like that theme'? You're obviously reacting strongly to something, but just saying 'there is a theme and I like this theme' is not genius, even if it's perfectly fine to appreciate. 

    You likely could argue support for an underlying theme in the story about hatred being the catalyst for suffering, or some such, but again, it'd be a hard sell for me to claim that the delivery of said themes is really worth such hefty praise.

  10. On 11/5/2020 at 10:19 PM, SoulWeaver said:

    I feel it's discriminatory to those who believe in binary genders to force them to make preferred pronouns as I feel that it forces them to comply with rules they do not believe in.

    I am curious as to why you think this way. Regardless of anyone's beliefs on gender identity, we use pronouns. Whether you are someone who believes in a binary or does not, one way or another you communicate which pronouns people should refer to you as. If you were setting "male" on the previous gender indicator, the primary purpose of that was to allow people to know to call you He. This new thing is doing the exact same thing, just providing an extra option or two. What rules do you not believe in are you complying with through this?

  11. I lived with my parents all through college and +1 year while I established myself professionally in my field (and financially) and it was great - so I did exactly what you want to do lmao. I think it's ridiculous that people think it's necessary for families to separate as soon as possible and the amount of judgment I used to get saying I "still" lived with my parents was pretty bothering. It's only bad if people are unhappy about it. If everyone in the house is chill with it, I don't understand why there's any societal judgment

  12. 8 minutes ago, Benice said:

    More like a wronger

    I don't necessarily agree-I think that a story should have a clear and focused idea, (something I struggle with a lot) and you can guide your reader, but ultimately, what the reader gets from it, and whether they enjoyed it, is what really counts in my uneducated opinion.

    Never taken a creative writing course, though, so my perspective will likely change once I do later this year.

    I can speak as a licensed English teacher (lots of teaching of writing and story analysis! Fun shit!) that there is a lot of merit in the effect of the writing isolated from the intent of the writing. It's just two different approaches to judging something. Generally judging by the effect is the more commonly suggested route because you don't always know what someone was explicitly going for but you can always gauge some message or meaning based on how you respond to the text

    I imagine your perspective will not change drastically haha but have fun seeing what you learn

  13. On 9/27/2020 at 10:16 AM, kuromiko said:

    I have a LOT of rarepairs but if we're specifically talking about characters that can hold hands in the actual game itself then I think Chrom x Sully is pretty cool I guess. No idea why it and Chrom x Maribelle have so little supporters that don't headcanon it as comphet. They're perfectly good ships.

    they really are perfectly nice ships. I think my original Chrom ship was Maribelle even but man it feels so long ago now

    ...so what about pairings that can't hold hands in the actual game

  14. 17 hours ago, AnonymousSpeed said:

    Hey, why can't we see warn histories, by the way? Or maybe a log of moderator actions or something.

    I don't just say this because of this scenario, though it probably would add some clarity to it. I have Soul in a campaign I'm running and I almost dropped him because I didn't know he had been warned and wasn't posting because he wasn't able.

     

    I want to address this real quick, since it did not get commented on and I feel it is an important thing to emphasize. Apologies for the mod-derail, you can publicly shame me. I will keep it short.

    We would not put warn histories out to the public because it really should not be public information. The primary point is that we would not want to do anything that encourages bias among members, and as much as I try to have a pleasant view of people,  they would absolutely use this functionality to form prejudices against others for situations they have no other context about. The secondary point is that I believe as a general rule (I know this statement would make some who don't care go "well I don't care"), people who have warns would simply rather not anyone be able to peep on that and see what has happened in their history. I believe it just shows tiny bit of respect and support towards letting people learn and grow.

    OK thank you for tolerating me, please go back to your wonderful writing competition and feel free to DM me if you have further inquiries or thoughts about why we do things this way

  15. 2 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

    I pray it doesn't look like this.:

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    Congrats to obtaining the financial behemoth that is the great traditional symbol of the American Dream! May the house be your lovely and relaxing abode for as long as you want it to be.😃🏡

    it might when im done with it

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