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MAX STATS, 1ST GEN, FINAL DESTINATION TEAM ESPINOSA VS TEAM CARMINE SWORD STATS UNIT HP ST MG SK SP LK DF RS acc avo crt Assassin!Espinosa 80 44 30 50 46 44 30 29 97 91 24 General!Walhart 80 54 28 41 34 44 54 33 83 73 20 Sorcerer!Miriel 80 28 47 39 41 45 39 44 79 84 19 Berserker!Gangrel 80 48 30 38 47 44 33 30 79 92 19 Assassin!Yen'Fay 80 41 28 50 50 45 30 28 97 97 25 UNIT HP ST MG SK SP LC DF RS ACC AVO CRT Hero!Carmine 80 42 27 48 45 47 40 35 95 91 24 BowKnight!Chrom 80 41 30 44 42 46 34 29 89 86 22 Sage!Emmeryn 80 28 50 43 43 44 29 41 86 86 21 Assassin!Gaius 80 41 29 50 48 43 30 30 96 93 25 Paladin!Stahl 80 44 29 41 40 43 44 41 83 81 20 (90) Carmine Sword Goes first!

what i should have done is just got elie's noire in beastkiller range instead of getting her low with the beastkiller and making her dangerous again. This match gave me a few good ideas though for future teams. I think renewal might actually be fine too. Although Elie I don't think ever got a miracle proc, miracle Vengeance is pretty stupid.

speed+2 for top tier maybe a limit on renewal is a better option than a flat out ban? like one per team or something? Or do you think it even needs a ban?

inigo don\t get miracle'd and finish the game with superior jolt

inigo jolt go

Yeah, please.

I would, but i've played quite a few recently, so I could host it if you'd like.

Noire had an interesting makeover. Noire Beastkiller Noire

Inigo Superior Jolt Noire miracle is the 73 here:

Noire, brave bow brady. If he has vantage she's dead anyway.

Noire Yewfelle Noire wait what?

It's not a huge disparity. Is effective MT gonna be FE7's x2 or FE8's x3?

Right on. I'll host your next game so you can play a few. EDIT: The links in the FAQ topic are broken since links are different with the site update.

coolio. If anyone is avaliable to host, let us know!

i'll play you in 9 if we do averages/boosters/cut supports?

waifu class too strong

go bravebow morgan again

it was worth a shot I guess

i think assassins and sm's are terrible classes. I havent used them, but in theory they look like poor choices.

Brave Bow Morgan with Noire.

Boron and ZM gonna stick my answer to the questions i didnt get to in spoilers below

you can build a sorceror morgan with 48 skill and 46 speed how do you kill that without skill procs

destructive potential is reliant on skill procs (which are admitably pretty high) but it isn't guarenteed in any sense. You can't ORKO a Sorceror without a Luna proc or something either. Renewalnosferatu heals like, ~40 HP a turn, and its not taking into account other stuff like Vengeance/Sol/Bond etc. and this game is going to be very very very long. It might be close to endless. (also if you didnt see my action earlier i'm Yewfelling Brady with Noire) Also most of the classes that double Sorcerors suck pretty hard or are shut down by a breaker. Maybe i'm just thinking avoid doesn't happen a whole lot because almost every hit has landed this game regardless of % Also all those skills are on both sides and increases hit as well, so its a wash.

yeah renewal is probably fine in averages. Most things are really. Sorcerors aren't even that good because Henry is slow as balls and Tharja has horrible accuracy.

i think renewal should be banned flat out honestly aversa's night might just need to be banned flat out too