Etrurian emperor
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On 4/26/2024 at 3:36 AM, Fire Emblem Fan said:
Another character I'm not fond of is Hapi. The only thing I think I like is her support, chemistry, and ending with Dimitri. Other than that, she's a character that doesn't really work. Her "sigh to summon monsters" gimmick is incredibly stupid and does not work in any way, shape, or form, in my opinion, and most of her supports are just plain not great. I'm more annoyed by her than anything.
I mentioned Hapi in the minor character appreciation thread and as such I must say....yeah your right. Her ''sigh to summon monsters'' gimmick IS stupid. It took me quite a while to look past that.
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The clouds covering her up will never not be hilarious.
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Maybe its because you get your second Dark Marques at the very end of the game when you can't experiment with them, but am I to only one who found them a huge disappointment compared to Berengaria? When you get Berengaria she's immediately great in about any role, but the other Dark Marques struggles to find his role. He's kinda frail and doesn't do all that much damage either. Perhaps its a bad first impression because he starts in a team with generic, but Berengaria started out alone and still kicked ass. I can't say he got any better when I used him in the epilogue either.
The one thing I found noteworthy is that he's got a Kamehameha attack that's got a pretty huge range.
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Its a shame Norbelle is just an easter egg for fans who are loony enough to finish the game without leaving Cornia or saving Scarlet.
SpoilerThe idea that big bland bad Galarius has a daughter might actually flesh him out a bit.
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I think Hapi counts as relatively minor. While she does have a support with Dimitri they're not quite so tight with each other as Constance is to Edelgard, or Balthus to Hilda. Among the wolves she's a bit isolated.
What is to be appreciated about Hapi is that she does things well that could have gone very wrong. On the whole Hapi is an example of a bad idea done well. Her gimmick of summoning monsters when she sighs makes her come across as someone's bad OC but despite this she works as a character. What helps is that more time is devoted on how her gimmick shapes Hapi and how the world sees her rather than there being too much time devoted on her dumb OC gimmick. That Hapi's so dour because she's been betrayed several times over her stupid gimmick is more important than the stupid gimmick itself.
As a character Hapi is very much a cynic, and things brings the risk of coming across as a boring, unlikable killjoy but Hapi avoided this trap. While distrustful Hapi herself is pretty friendly and can make strong friendships with her polar opposites like Constance or Ash, and rather than roll her eyes at everything Hapi seems plenty able to enjoy herself in different things such as food, stories or painting.
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1 hour ago, XRay said:
Well, Fates was a huge fuck up in terms of localization in my opinion, but it did financially well.
I always thought that what they were localising was more of the issue. Every child character being a tehnical adult or Soleil's...everything might have been dumb but its not like Fates gave them much of a choice.
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Ah yes Loki. Anyone else remember she was a presence in the story? Loki kept plotting stuff the writers then forgot about. Scheming in the background for some reason in the early books, being behind the tempest or assembling the avengers.
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For me Radiant Dawn is better for the same reason as its worse. Its more interesting and it takes more risks. POR can be summed up as ''FE7 and FE8 but more''. Its a very familiar formula executed very well. In terms of story telling, gameplay and tone it has few flaws but also very few surprises.
Radiant Dawn stand apart as its own beast. The swapping between factions, the more ambitious story and its overall expansiveness are never very graceful but they are present and thus give a unique flavor to the game.
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Echoes takes place between the games which might mean that King Alm had to deal with having Emperor Hardin as a neighbor before Marth became emperor. If the continents had to have a stupid war then the origins would most logically be found there.
Have the story begin with emperor Hardin being hostile to Alm, blockading trade, having his ambassadors stir up trouble and engage in hybrid warfare. Maybe even fund bandits to attack Ram and Novis to personally vex Alm and Celica. At one point Alm has enough and sets out with a fleet to defend Valentia from Hardin. By the time he lands in Archenea Hardin has already been overthrown, but Alm doesn't know that yet, so instead he faces Marth. They have one big battle after which they talk it out and join forces against a new threat. Maybe that be Grima or the barbarians up north uniting.
The topic never specified the war between Marth and Alm had to be especially long after all. Unless a stupid plot device like a blood pact or Celica being held hostage I don't see any quarrel between the two rulers lasting very well. They're both good boys so they'd probably be able to talk it out at the first meeting.
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I've always had a strong dislike towards the argument that Engage is different from Three Houses because Engage toned down the 'social sim elements''. I think its an argument that sets people on the wrong expectation and that its not even true to begin with.
The difference between the game is one of narrative tone and gameplay styles(the later of which in Engage's favor even), but all the social sim features that Engage supposedly doesn't have are found in both games. Okay, you can't decide the romantic ending of your entire army but that's about the only limit on the social sim I can think of. Running around the Somniel isn't unlike the monastery. You can still have supports and your avatar can still marry who he wants, you can still take characters out to dinner, dress them how you want and do weird minigames with them. If the monastery drew you in then the Somniel should be enough.
Putting emphasis on this supposed lack of social sim mechanic to differentiate the two sets wrong expectations. It implies Engage is the more hardcore title that can get down to business now that its unburdened by husbandos and waifus. It invites the conclusion that Engage is the hardcore Shin Megani Tensei equivalent to Three Houses Persona, but that's not the game Engage wants to be. Its proudly lighthearted and beginner friendly. Uh...well in theory at least. Its what the game wants to be but the stages are quite a bit too hard for the game to be as welcoming as it thinks it is.
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I'd say a game set in Almyra or Dagda is at least decently likely.
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On 4/17/2024 at 4:07 PM, Nauriam said:
The two examples that come to mind are that one strong girl from season 1 of the Mandalorian (I only watched season 1 but I assume she comes back)
Oh...hehe...oh nooo no no. She did a social media ''oopsie'' and got fired.
I'm on two minds on the matter. On one hand I think gigantic or otherwise very rough woman like Vaida or Unicorn's Amalia to be hilarious and I do love seeing them. On the other hand I do agree with the sentiment that a woman being ''strong'' meaning she has to have masculine traits is lazy and not entirely sending the right message.
I think Titania has the right idea. Very capable and still clearly a woman without having much masculine traits.
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Two years after the reveal we have our first gameplay footage! After the stream early access is opened to the public. I don't know how long the first game's early access took but I sure hope we'll get Hades II sooner rather than later.
Some notes
Instead of Achilles we now have Odysseus. He always struck me the more interesting Trojan war hero.
Hypnos is the only one of the original household that available at the start. For a certain definition of available anyway.
Old gods return with Demether, Poseidon and Aprodite having a new design and new boons. And Aphrodite remains naked.
Of the old gods Artemis seems to have an acceded role and its implied Hermes has too.
First region is Erebus which is a region that wasn't in the first game
Zagreus sis is driven but is implied to secretly be a bit timid. She noticeable has to brace herself when answering a boon.
Rather than just Hades Persephone and Zagreus are gone too. One shudders to think about what happened to Cerberus.
While poor Cerbykins is missing the new character has her own pet in the form of a frog who's significantly less cool and less cute then Cerberus. -
Asugi is a big one for me and he brings down Gaius by association.
The big reason I hold Asugi in contempt is because I don't think Gaius deserved his own clone. Tharja and Cordelia were at least a phenomenon during Awakening so them being cloned made sense. But who ever talked about Gaius? I know he ranked high in one poll where the western fans weren't even consulted but more should be required.
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1 hour ago, ping said:
I'm going to say Sylvia. It's not that she's a promiscuous character, but I really don't need a promiscuous character whose childishness and immaturity is dialed up to 11 in virtually every scene she is in. And even if those traits were removed, it also bothers me that Sylvia's behaviour needed to be given a justification in the form of daddy issues, while characters like Sain or Saul are allowed to be man-sluts just because.
Now that I think about it that seems to be a running theme for female flirts. Dorothea and Charlotte both have reasons and goals attached to their hunt for a man, while the boys are just allowed to be horny for horny's sake. The exception being Sylvain who's a flirt because he's the worst.
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I've been pretty tired of multiverse stories for a while now with Bayonetta 3 being the point I got most annoyed with it. FF7 gets kind of a pass since it doesn't really adhere to the multiverse style. Its just the same story told a bit different rather than ''Wutai Sephirot and Shinra executive Barret''
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The reverse side of that other topic. What minor character do you have a noteworthy negative reaction towards despite their lack of importance. I suppose what character is minor or not is subjective so feel free to name anyone you think fits, whether it be playable characters without much presence in cutscenes or minor bosses and minor or relatively major villains.
For me the most noteworthy candidate for such unappreciation is Kotaro because I think he's about the worst written character in fates. If you betray everyone without rhyme or reason then you're not a schemer nor an opportunist, you're just a buffoon instead. Kotaro had no reason to go pick a fight over a single prisoner, and trying to exterminate the royal family of the country he was trying to ally with over such a squabble is just dumb. Even Iago has more logic to his actions.
Speaking of poorly written we have Yukimura who is very chill about you trying to take over his kingdom but turns around and deems you an unforgivable monster if you just want to stay neutral.
For the Leicester Alliance its Acheron and Judith. There were many good ways of showing us an example of an opportunistic small fry noble of the alliance but making him a gigantic loser who only ever picks the losing side surely isn't one of them. Judith meanwhile seems to be there solely to give us an NPC Alliance ally who's not Holst which seems a waste.
Radiant Dawn's Levail exist solely to highlight an aspect of the Black Knight that drags down his character and which I think is a failure. As such I think Levail fails as well. No levail, a man who murders someone just to see if he can is not the last true knight on Tellius. It might have worked if we see the Zelgius fanboy slowly get corrupted into someone who behaves as the Black Knight, but they missed that chance by pretending there isn't any difference between Zelgius and the Black Knight.
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I'd say Lang scores a lot of points. He's an overly evil douchebag, but in a role and position where he's exactly what he's supposed to be. Lang's meant to be so evil that it shows how far Hardin has fallen, and be powerful enough to be an early game antagonist. In both aspects he succeeds. I think the key aspect to his success is that unlike many villains who hold this role Lang is never depicted as incompetent, allowing him to be a serious threat.
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I'm actually really surprised Yukimura got to be in the game. He's old, he's an afterthought narratively, he's as unpopular as he should be and he's poorly written.
Nice to see Mozu, Hayato and best girl Candace though. For the forging bond its probably inevitable Hayto, Ricken and Lysithea will all scream ''NO YOU'RE THE KID!'' at each other.
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In Engage it would be Morion and Seforia, to the point I'd probably have preferred them over their kids. Morion's weird contrast between being a warmonger while at the same time a really chummy guy is interesting, and its actually quite sweet how the ultimate macho man is so loving towards Alcryst who's anything but. I think he deserved better then become a moron and die.
Seforia meanwhile is a character that just seems a ton of fun which we didn't get to see much of since she stays in the castle all the game.
4 hours ago, X-Naut said:Now I don't leave this topic empty-handed so I'll talk about an archer from those games I do like. Gordin has a really compelling story for a rank-and-file starting knight: as a newly-minted knight or not even a full-fledged knight yet, he gets separated from peers and family in humiliating circumstances and through sheer chance gets brought into exile with his prince. As the only archer ang being several years their junior, he's all alone save for that red-headed volunteer girl, and he has to look outside their circle for support. When he returns home, he's a lot more capable but he's still stuck in that awkward spot between the other senior knights and his juniors; and to his chagrin people associate him more with the latter. This leads to him growing distant and eventually joining his mentor in Archanea when the second war is all said and done.
I like him too. I appreciated there was some nuance to his status as the rookie of the group since when he speaks with Ryan he comes off as a very caring older brother who's clearly successful in mentoring Ryan.
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1 hour ago, Acacia Sgt said:
Maybe you should've, because now I thought you were talking about Vigarde, not Orson. lol
I thought he was talking about Valter.
On that topic I've always had a soft spot for Caelach. Clearly the least plot important member of the evil trio but I think that kinda enhanches him. He's a very human antagonist from very humble origins. He doesn't serve dark gods, doesn't want to destroy the world, isn't insane but just wants a throne and a fat paycheck.
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Its a bit strange to imagine him as ''minor'' due to how iconic he is, and how much he's playable compared to everyone else but Haar counts. He's not a main character after all or even particularly close to any of the main characters. His closest bond is with another minor character.
And yet for some reason the funny sleepy guy with little plot relevance gets boss conversation with about any enemy imaginable, and practically none go for the low hanging sleep gimmick. Its nice how an unimportant gimmick character can ''trick'' you like this.
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I think Azelle's a very good candidate. Among all the Fire Emblem characters he's kinda one of a kind. I don't think there are many other characters who are direct relatives of the main antagonist without being long lost children. Alm and Alear barely know their evil dads but Azelle was directly raised by Arvis and the two seem to have a complicated but relatively loving relationship. I don't think there are many bastards in the series either.
There's also a lot of potential for growth in Azelle. He starts out as a meek boy in his brothers shadow but might grow into someone more confident. His stats seem to kinda reflect that as he goes from footie rookie to pony riding mage knight if you train him.
Vaida and Niime are everything Fire Emblem females usually aren't and that already makes them great.
There's Tormod and Muarim. Aside from being very nice guys who fight slaves and are friendly to just about everyone their bond is also just wholesome. Its sweet the two are so devoted to each other despite not needing to be. Even more so when Muarim's backstory gives him all the reason in the world to want nothing to do with Tormod, but instead he raises him as a loving dad. And despite Muarim's patience with Tormod defeat quotes show he's not afraid of putting his foot down, no longer humoring Tormod's pretention of leadership and just ordering him back into line.
Kasatai from Path of Radiance has a pretty impressive collection of good and bad traits that balance each other out. He's as bloodthirsty as you'd expect but also shows discomfort at the idea of Crimean civilians dying for his kings plans, he's skeptical about Ena's position of leadership but rather than being the biggest jerk about it he just tells it to her while being cordial and not seeming to blame her. This skepticism later turns into great loyalty. Despite clearly being a racist he does seem to really like and respect Ena.
Count Erwin Fritz Gloucester was a nice black horse among the new additions in Three Hopes. Three Houses only portrays him in the most negative of terms so the more positive spin Hopes gave him was surprising. He's still scheming and somewhat disloyal but for a cause. Rather than being the biggest prick out there his shady actions just stem from him wanting to provide for his territory and keep his citizens safe. The game seems to depict a man who's naturally nice but steels himself to do his duties. Later on when freed from his job we see a dorky old man who's not unlike his dorky son.
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My guesses are evil Arval or possessed Shez, Loptyr Julius, fallen Alear and evil Veyle. With the right combination of these characters you can even have the banner set up of three females to one male that IS prefers.
One idea I always liked is a morph of one of the FE7 lords being a duo hero with Nergal. The lord in question being the main unit and Nergal being the cheerleader in the context that he's puppeteering their movements. Maybe chaining him to Lyn can get IS over their unwillingness to give Nergal his due.
Minor character unappreciation thread
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I think hexes are another example of that. In supports Awakening and Fates claim hexes can do just about anything but in gameplay its just a minor debuff to the enemy.