Jonahtron
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Just now, Sire said:
I am starting to get the feeling staying up for this is not worth it. I can't understand what's going on at all...
From what I saw from uploads of the other streams, there going to be talking for a while.
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Oh boy, 3 a.m!
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3 hours ago, Lightchao42 said:
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well. I like male Corrin too because we haven't really had a "dorky" lord before and he isn't conventionally "tough" like men are expected to be.
I haven't seen that, but it's nice to know (maybe they wanted him to do something since his female version is the one present in the story).
I'm, what are you talking about? Male and female Corrin have almost the exact same dialogue throughout fates? How could one be more "dorky" than the other?
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17 minutes ago, TheSS said:
Lianna has Rowan's moveset. Lucina has Chroms. Cordelia, and probably Caeda, have Hinokas. Sakura has Takumi's. Elise has Leo's.
They have different ults, but otherwise they are nearly identical. from gameplay we've seen.
I mean, the move sets are similar, but I doubt they'll be exactly the same.
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48 minutes ago, TheSS said:
25 isn't a lot, actually. You have to think about it in terms of how long it takes to develop. HW had lower than 20 characters, but overall it had ~24 unique movesets in the original release (after some quick, free post-launch DLC that made 3 boss-only characters playable).
Let's consider the number of characters in FE warriors who have the same moveset as someone else.
- Lianna
- Lucina
- Cordelia
- Elise
- Sakura
- Female Robin
- Male Corrin
- Caeda (probably)
That's 8 characters. That leaves us with just 17 unique movesets. I'm guessing we have more than that in the base game.
What makes you think these characters have the same move sets? Other than the gender variants, none of those are confirmed.
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12 hours ago, Gaia093 said:
Call me selfish if you want, but I can't be bothered to care about what perceived negative consequences Lyn's inclusion in the roster may or may not have because some people also want X or Y character.
All I know is that I finally got a character I truly enjoy to play as in this game, whereas I struggled to muster up enthusiasm for any of the alternatives before. Or to be more accurate, I got THE character I've always wanted. I now have an actual reason to be at the game store Day 1 and gladly pick this up, and surely I'm far from the only one.
I'm much less enthusiastic about the game after Lyn's announcement because I really don't care about Lyn that much. I would have preferred to get Jagen instead of Lyn. I actually wanted some shadow dragon characters, and since it looks like we may only be getting 3, that makes me a little upset. Sure, there's this whole Navarre thing, but he very well could be an npc, like Validar. I think they should have just owned this whole focus on 3 games thing, unless this game has significantly more playable characters than the leak let on. I guess there could be characters on the back of the box? I doubt it though, since 25 is already a lot.
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6 hours ago, Yexin said:
i honestly don't know why people think/hope dlc to be themed on SD, awakening and fates when we already have the vanilla game to mainly represent those games: having even more characters from those games would be unnecessarily redundant, imo
i mean, it's since we got to know that this game would've represented only 3 games, and neither equally, that people try to calm down angry/pissed fans with the "older characters will be dlc" excuse, and that's exactly what i want dlc to be: older characters who are not popular enough (in IntSys' mind) to get into the vanilla game
btw, i never played HW, so i don't know how they handled dlc with that game, but these are my hopes and thoughts
i think dlc packs will include the frightening "parade of lords" members, but i hope they only have 1 sword character, 2 at most, and the rest to be other weapons
what i hope is that dlc are continent/game/storyline themed, so i hope for a general "jugdral pack", or a "holy knight's army" pack, with characters like sigurd, quan, levin and
the barbecue king arvisbrigid, and a "light inheritors" pack with seliph, febail, arthur and altena, or even a thracia pack with finn, leif, the almighty P U G I wielder and linoan or seti (if levin isn't added first)then i hope for an elibe pack with eliwood, hector, klein, roy and lilina
the magvel pack could be eirika, ephraim, lute, innes and lyon
and the last one (not in terms of release) would be the tellius pack, with ike (i still hope he'll be in the base game), micaiah, boyd, shinon and gatrie (i'd LOVE to see some laguz, but let's face it, they won't make it in)
what i think it's more likely to happen, is at least one "more awakening and fates" pack: i know a lot of people would love to see tharja and azura, and vaike would make me very happy, but if they haven't been added in the base game in first place, there must be a reason
and the reason is that they want people to pay for themHey, let's not kid ourselves, there's absolutely nothing Judgral getting in the game.
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5 minutes ago, phineas81707 said:
I just don't like how, as a fan of Fire Emblem and someone who enjoyed and bought everything Hyrule Warriors had to offer, I'm not getting any hype whatsoever out of their union. I don't even like TP and and hadn't even seen SS at the time that released!
Of course, part of that is "I know what Warriors gameplay looks like, so I can form opinions of how the game is to play a Warriors newbie would not." And I wasn't really enthused enough about that part...
...Gods, it's time to give up hope, isn't it?
You're not enthused about the gameplay? I thought it looked pretty nice, and everything I've heard from people who played it was positive, but whatever. To each their own I guess.
But yeah, if literally nothing about the game entices you, then yes, it's time to give up hope.
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7 minutes ago, phineas81707 said:
From my perspective, I don't really see why I'd go for DLC without seeing something like the new Adventure Maps from HW. I already don't know or care for the cast at base, why would I expand with characters I'm only going to get less familiar with? Clarisse is the only exception I could think of.
...But I can also see the idea that just a taster of the old cast would be a tad shallow. How did we get into this mess in the first place...
I mean, if you don't care for the cast of characters from any of the base games than yeah, this game probably isn't for you, unless you're just really into warriors games. I'm of course as disappointed as anyone with the base cast, but I also understand their reasoning and like what I see enough to get the game day one.
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6 hours ago, YotsuMaboroshi said:
'definitely won't just do more fe1/13/14' is not a guarantee, it's a very optimistic hope. The interview I mentioned in my point 1 lends more to the fact that they aren't considering other games for this installment.
DLC characters aren't common for KT's musou games (AFAIK HW was an exception, not the rule) because there is a lot of effort that needs to go into a new character/moveset. I expect character DLC to expand the character selection within the games we have rather than adding new games, simply because saving other games for the sequel means they can add more characters from those games than they would be able to in DLC. FE3/FE12 gets a slight pass due to how involved with SD it is, but the others are relatively independent.
This isn't to say I wouldn't like other games to get representation in DLC, but given the interviews, I don't see them being satisfied with just adding 1-2 characters from a 'repped' game as a DLC pack (not given what we've heard in interviews), and any more than that per pack might be more effort/budget than can be justified for DLC, unless we get lots of clones.
Really don't see why they couldn't just add a couple characters from a game as dlc than just expand on that game if they make a sequel. But maybe I'm being too optimistic. Still, they added a bunch of games to hyrule warriors, so it's still possible.
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6 hours ago, Tolvir said:
My predictions.
Reinforcements pack 1
Selena, Odin, Laslow
Reinforcements Pack 2
Cherche, Gaius, Oboro, Niles.
Mystery of the Emblem Pack
Katarina, Michaelis, Roderick, Legion
Legends Pack
Ike, Soren, Roy, Lilina. 1 History mode map from each game.
Echoes Pack
Alm, Celica, Saber, Lukas. 2 History Mode maps, Greith's Citadel and Zofia Castle.
Beasts and Dragons Pack
Nowi, Panne, Keaton, Kaden
History Mode Pack 1
Additonal maps for History Mode.
History Mode Pack 2
More maps for History Mode
Summer Scramble
Summer Scramble maps along with costumes.
Not necessarily in this order, nor all,of these. Just the ones I think are within the realm of most likely.
Oh no there's so going to be a summer one. Didn't even think of that.
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9 minutes ago, YotsuMaboroshi said:
If there's character DLC, I think it most likely going to still be SD, Awakening and Fates, for two reasons:
1. The dev interviews said they wanted a sequel for adding characters from other games.
2. The original HW Wii U DLC didn't add any new games to the represented games until the final pack added Majora's Mask (which could be thought of as an extension of Ocarina). Legends added WW, and then DLC for Legends added Link's Awakening, LBW, and Spirit Tracks (which can be thought of as an extension of WW similar to MM and OoT). If they follow a similar formula here, I don't think they're likely to add more than one or two games, and the first in line is likely stuff from FE3/FE12, due to its direct connection to FE1/FE11. Gaiden/Echoes is probably also high on the list due to connections with Awakening.
Other than that, we'll probably get costumes, additional History Maps, and/or Coliseum fights. The two extra modes we know about seem like the likeliest candidates for DLC to add to.
I'm basing my thoughts more on legends than the original hyrule warriors. Fire emblem just has a lot more characters to do use than Zelda, plus this game doesn't have alt weapons, so more characters is kinda a given. We won't see much from other games, but they definitely won't just do more fe1/13/14. I would be interested in some fe12 dlc, though.
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1 hour ago, eclipse said:
If Minerva's in, then Michalis will work as an antagonist. Would love to see Maria, to round out the happy family.
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I'd really like to see a playable thief, whether it be Julian for competence or Rickard for the lulz. I'd be really happy if Jeorge/Astram/Camus made it in, since they wield some really nifty weapons.
Michalis could also be a villain. I just think it's possible that the game's original villain (who, let's be honest, is probably the main characters' friend who is mysteriously not confirmed as playable) could be the only villain in the game. It's just weird that the only villain shown is Validar, who is confirmed to be a villain npc. Let's be honest, none of these games have particularly well liked villains, so they could just skip them.
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22 minutes ago, KongDude said:
I can see other lords getting in. I think the most predictable ones would be Roy, Ike, and Alm/Celica. For other characters, maybe not unless they are really big fan-favorites.
I feel like they would want to add more than one character from each game they rep though. I'm pretty confident history mode maps will be dlc, and they probably need more than just the main lord for those to work.
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I want a Thracia banner. It can have Leif(with his Light brand or the blaggi sword), Finn(brace lance) Nanna(Will probably have staffs, but maybe could have the runesword), and like Mareeta(with the Mareeta sword) I just want more Thracia rep in the game.
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Normally I don't like talking about DLC before a game is even out yet, but with the past 4 fire emblem games having DLC and Hyrule warriors having DLC (I'm sure other warriors games have DLC too, but Hyrule Warriors is the only one I've played) DLC for this is all but confirmed. Plus, this is really the only way for some of my favorite characters to get in, so I want to speculate about it. I personally think we'll like;y see four waves of DlC (just like Hyrule warriors) possibly less but probably not more. These packs would include probably include some where from 1-4 characters, with also possibly a history mode map and/or maybe something for whatever the coliseum is. I think these packs would be:
Echoes pack: Most likely since the game was just released. Obviously they couldn't be in the base game, since these games were being developed at the same time. Obviously we'd get Alm and Celica, with maybe one other character from each rout. Or Berkut. He's pretty popular. If they wanted to go real crazy, they could split this into an Alm rout and Celica rout pack, with like 3 characters each, but that seems a bit much. Especially since the game didn't do as good as Awakening or fates. AS for a map, they could just go with the final chapter, or maybe like the Rudolf map or the Greith map or something.
Elibe pack: Fe6 and/or fe7. Fe7 was the best selling game until awakening, and even now these games are still popular. There's a reason these games got into heroes. if it's a general Elibe pack, then we'd probably just get all the lords as characters, though that would be 3 sword users. Maybe the'd drop one for some fan favorite character? They could do that if it was just fe7, too, though Hector is pretty much a shoe in if it is. If it's just fe6, We could get just Roy. While I hate the kid, he has a fire sword, so he could be fun. They could also add Lillina and someone else, maybe Clarine or Echidna. as for a map, from fe7 they could go with cog of destiny, or victory of death, or maybe just the final chapter. In fe6 there's the Zephiel map, or maybe chapter 7.
Tellius pack: Probably the least likely, since these games sold like crap, put Ike did win the popularity poll, so maybe there's a chance. Characters could be Ike, Micaiah (If they pull from fe10), Titania, Soren, the Black Knight, or maybe some Laguz, like Ranulf or Tibarn. Probably not the Laguz though, since they would have to add a whole new weapon type. As for a map, Moment of Fate (if we get the black knight) is a strong possibility, or just the final map from either game. Maybe even the Greil Mercenaries fort? A really cool idea would be chapter 17 from fe9, though that may be a bit to big.
A pack with more Awakening/ fates/ maybe even (but probably not) shadow dragon characters: Not much to say here, as we don't even know who all will be in the base game, nor what maps will be there, but I just have the strangest feeling that Tharja might not be in the base game. I mean, it's weird that they had an Awakening trailer with her not in it, right? I'm also concerned that Azura hasn't been announced yet, as I actually do like her, but She'll probably be in the base game. I don't know if this would focus on one game or all three, or just the 2 that aren't shadow dragon, but who knows. I don't really want this one to exist, but I just have the faintest inclination that it will.
Anyways, those are my predictions. What are yours? They don't have to be as detailed as mine, but still I'm curious as to what people think.
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I don't think Draug is getting enough attention here. You see, there's not a single infantry lance user announced yet, and if this is truly shadow dragon characters and not mystery of the emblem characters, then Draug is the most relevant lance man left (obviously Hardin would beet him if mystery of the emblem was included). Most people don't like Draug, but I actually really do, so I'm fine with this.
Aside from him, I think Tiki is all but confirmed, Minerva's almost certainly getting in, Ceada and Merric are very likely, and maybe we'll get Jagen. I didn't mention Camus, because I think something is going on with the villains. They haven't shown any yet, so I think we'll either see none, they won't be playable, or they won't be playable at first. Granted, fe1 is the only game who's story needs villains to work (awakening can just use Robin as Grima, fates can use the country you don't side with) so maybe we'll get Camus or Garnef or medeus. I don't know.
Also maybe Gordin or Jeorge, since we only have 2 archers.
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On 9/7/2017 at 7:42 AM, Motendra said:
With History mode, I believe this is the best way to bring villains into the game and eventually in the roster, via HW precedent. As such, I expect Ch20 (Camus), 22 (Michalis), 23 (Gharnef) for Shadow Dragon.
As of Awakening, the altar's already been shown, but the question is, is that Robin's dream in the beginning or the actual Ch23? Nevertheless, I expect Ch9/10/11 (gangrel), 18(Yen'fey), 19/20 (Walhart)
Fates is a tricky one, given that there's so much to choose from. I'll get back to that later, as I've a commute to class right now
Really don't think Yen'fey's important enough to get a map. There's plenty more memorable maps from awakening to choose from, like chapter 4. People like that one, I guess.
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Elise is nice and all, but when are they going to announce Jagen, the true innocent cinnamon roll?
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Lyn is probably going to win, since you know, she won the choose your legends event, but it will probably be close. I'm going team Hector, then Ike or Lyn if he looses.
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Oh never mind. just actually got him and he has no lances. I was just paranoid that there would be problems with me using a save from the previous version.
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So the readme said that J.R wasn't suppose to gain lances after promoting, but I just got to chapter 2-2 and he's a ranger. He can already use lances. is that a problem?
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This makes me laugh.
But mine probably goes as follows in terms of character:
Rebecca>Wolt>Innes>Klein>Neimi>Igrene>Wil>Dorothy>Louise
Imo for stats:
Innes>Neimi>Rebecca>Wil>Louise>Dorothy>Klein>Igrene>Wolt
Why is Dorothy above Klein and Igrene for stats? Dorothy is worst than, if not just as bad as, Wolt.
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Ross, aka, the only good one.
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Of course there's a bride Lucina.