Zynac

Chapter 12 base, sorry about the wait, ive been really busy Ike Lv 19 Str 14 Skilll 16 Sp 17 Def 12 Marcia lv 16 Str 12 Skil 13 Sp 17 def 10 Rolf lv 14: str 10 skill 13 sp 15 def 9 Rhys 15: mag 16 skil12 sp 9 res 20 Titiania lv 7 str 15 skil 16 sp 16 def 13 Kieran 16: Str 13 skill 12 Sp 13 Def 12 all these levels are lower than my liking but with all the new people i keep getting its hard to train people. I'm confident i can make them all 20/20, this is a pretty fun playthrough so far

Ya shinon's stats are too low because he is such a pre-premote. Rolf needs some babying but its relatively do able. Also Rolf has the possibilty of triangle attack going for him...

if you move oscar to the left square right at the end of the wall( the hole between the two walls, the opening into the center area) the two knights willl position themselfs 2 squares away from oscar( based on their move range) and then the archer will go right next to oscar and the whole left side will become clogged and you wont have to fight with oscar( meaning ike and titania get all the exp). this means you cant recruit llyana but it makes the level easier and makes it so you dnt have to use oscar any more! just a suggestion, if you want llyana then your strategy will have to do. good luck!

ya i already have many of those supports ( Ryhs Kieran, Astrid Gatire) so ill probably change it up a bit. thats a pretty good list for it though

i use NOONE except the people im going to use, i use copious amounts of BEXP and my ike is always power leveled early on. I think im just more used to hard mode im sure you'll catch up eventually

I'm on Chapter 10 and Ike lv 19 Titania Lv 5 Ryhs Lv 12 Rolf Lv 10 Marcia Lv11 I just got rolf and marcia so i used all the built up BEXP i had and powered them real high. i normally stealth the next level so ill have enough to give kieran a good grounding, but im considering just fighting my way through because i have so much need of combat exp

im gonna throw ppl into battle and not give them any exp just to unlock suports i dont have so ill have a support for llyana and for kieran and why are you gonna use llyana?? shes not on the first playthrough list? and niether is sothe, are they just for the support convos? cuz if they are just there for the convo's im doing that too lol

Alright so i am on chapter 7( about half way through) and gatire is level 15( im gonna give him the boss kill so he'll be 16. Ike is about 15( 14 but will be by the end of the chapter) ryhs is level 7 titania is 2 and shinon is still, of course...1. didn't check stats so i decided against making a chart just thought id fill you in on my progress. I'm currently deciding on supports for this play through. I'm thinking Ike-Titania, Shinon-Gatire, but don't know about any others....before any one comments about how weak those supports are in combat or whatever they should know i only do supports for the convo's and to unlock them in the RD library( I'm trying to unlock them all). I'm already enjoying this quite a bit but im worried about the units ill have to baby ( rolf in particular, mostly because this is more characters than im used to training)

yup ill get on it and ya Narga ill be doing it too so thanks for filling us in on the specific rules

i agree smaller numbers is good for training, i prefer 7-8 but then at the end of the game im ok with adding a late addition( like Elincia or Geoffrey, not nessecarily cuz they're good just for fun really). Soren is not a waste and can easily support himself if properly trained, hey he's not stellar but he can do it himself. Rolf has to be babied( much much harder to do with higher numbers) mist or rhys you can just blast to max lv with ashera staff hammerne combo...but you cant do that for both of them... Although really in PoR you can efectively use who ever you want( unless your numbers reaaaallly get excessive like more than 10 is often difficult when you have units that need babying) so we nag at him about useing bad people? really he can probably max them all out all though he's making it harder than he should on himself)

do they have to? that is about as good of a reason as you can get lol

Both are great units. I would say Marcia is definetly better, but i like Nephnee more...but ya Marcia is a ridiculous unit if you can over come her flying weakness( arrows wind magic, not all that comon and you eventually get the full guard which prevents that bonus dmg any way). She basically like a paladin with wings so you can't do much to beat that. Nephnee is also pretty dang good and especially fun for transfer data but Marcia is better in PoR( and probably RD as well...grumble grumble)

I'd be either Heron or Hawk. I like the whole "read people's thoughts" kind of thing( and heron galdr just seems..fun somhow) but i like to be able to fight i guess and Hawks are cool cuz they are honorable. Im leaning more towards heron though.

I have 10 con! woot...that doesnt really sound like me in my mind, im not exactly strong and know i can't use anything heavy...i see myself more as a myrmidon and this has me as sort of a general or fighter. really though it was fun to give it a try lol

First NA FE was my first. I went with a "good leaders make sacrifices" approach and after being stuck at "Cogs of destiny( i forget the ch number) for weeks i finally got to the final level with...Oswin and Marcus and Pent( by far my favorite). needless to say i finished the game with Athos( thats the old guy's name right) soloing the last chapter

Alright sounds good

these teams are no more unbalanced than the teams ive played before( i just play who i want not who's worth any thing). i onced trained rolf and mist and sothe( 3 of the most worthless at leaast at first) all in the same playthrough on HM. HM isn't that much diffrent from NM( just less exp and a few fun twists at the end). i honestly have never played NM since my 2nd playhrough( ive played 7 times) and first HM run is always the hardest but the first team we have here is really balanced, in fact it has kieran titania and marcia...some of THE best units in the game so it won't be difficult for you to beat in HM. i think you should expand your horizons and try HM with me with this team, if you really don't want to thats fine i can run NM if you really really want to.

My last playthrough had 3 sages lol! its somewhat difficult but really not so bad. I was kinda thinking HM cuz i do everything in HM( in PoR is really not that hard so it doesnt disable useage of any character, unlike RD) and how about we start when you get back, that gives me time to move forward in RD and i was gonna be really busy this week so starting later works great for me. by the way these teams look great, im excited cuz ill get a ton of the supports im looking for done

how about we pick new random ones, my reason is that one has both hawks and one has 3 beast laguz, i suppose thats the fun of random but i think we should see what the radomizer gives us if we try again. I think this will be really fun so im now willing to suspend my RD playthrough( or at least play both of them at the same time, just play which ever one i feel like, should be fun) so ya how about you run them through the radomizer again and post to me what you get so we can start it up

ya he can get hurt, and it does take forever to get him down there but he'll be utterly invincible( one part power one part evade) once he does...that being said, we are looking at double digit turns i believe, so not exactly some one to depend on for low turn count. I think BK's position is actually pretty acurate( and i would lean to put him lower actually but i don't see any of his neighbors as better)

Is there even a way to beat 1-9 without BK? also i agree and he can actually still be an unbeatable tank in the desert especially in NM cuz only mages can hurt him and they barely ever do and he recovers enough per turn hes in no danger. At the same time he isnt around much at all so if he even worth drafting? maybe as a late draft which is why hes low on the list im assuming

If you notice( looking again i understand how you might miss it...man was that post disjointed...sorry bout that) i kinda realized half way through that shinon's lack of counter attack was a problem of turn count and not survivabilty. so yes you are quite right about dodging not killing enemies( wouldnt that be nice though?)

this is somthing ive always kind of wanted to do but in my 7 PTs i pretty much already have. Units i have never used officially : Jill, Lethe, ( mordecai but ive used him on and off just never really trained him), Janaff, Geoffrey, Lucia, Bastian, and Tauroneo. I guess this seems like somthing i would really love to do( especially because i have the distant goal of getting all of the support convo's in the RD library. I really wanna finish my RD playthrough before i do more PoR, so maybe in a week or week and a half would you still be game? it'd be cool if we used the same teams for our PTs and compared how we did. you think you can wait that long?( i'd send you a profile message when im ready)

despite my extreme love of ike, id have to agree...i dont like titania because she starts so strong in PoR i think shes lame to use, that being said she has alot of advantages and despite Ike's better end game potential, in a PT that movement counts for so much, a cavalier has the advantage. As for your comments about Bowguns costing so much, in a draft playthrough shouldnt you have tons of cash and BEXP to throw around? so even the extreme over pricing of thsoe weapons wont be hard to over come. I wouldnt recommend bowguns cuz they are...weak. ( wow just read your whole statment and realize you said all of this already...i feel stupid dont worry) Shinon doesnt need to counter attack because he has enough dodge, and when he is promoted( since we keep mentioning bane i figure its ok to talk about 3 class) he has 3 range and extreme killing power which helps as far as sniping a boss down. I suppose Heater is better for Rout and shinon is better for kill the boss, there is more rout levels over all so...i guess for somthing all about turn count heather may in fact be more worthwhile( notice how i started off defending shinon, then switch sides mid argument...???)