Hober Mallow

I honestly can't take any more of this style of modding. /replace out

I'm trying to find Ryker's post. I'm basing on that. Rainbow seems the closest alternative to Elemina in the event that we do not get GP.

He is not. The post you quoted states my reason. I'm just thinking of alternatives to a no lynch. Green Poet if by far the best choice right now. If we don't end up with a majority, then I wouldn't be opposed to her using the anti-governor on Rainbow. Of course I would prefer it on YOLO directly, but I'm not going to argue that at this point in the day.

I wouldn't mind a Rainbow flip in the event that we do not get a majority on GP. I think it would be useful in regard to YOLO and Yedi's alignment. I'm pretty suspicious of YOLO currently. I dislike that he immediately discounted a GP lynch after her claim and has not weighed in on it further.

It's certainly not too powerful, because it relies on town's inaction. Town is completely in control of their destiny with this role. We would have to be accidentally no lynching for her role to take affect.

I don't think any one here doubts that you do have the power, but in no way makes it a town role. Explain how this is not possible for scum to have. It is essentially an anti-governor.

Green Poets role is perfectly feasible as a scum role. This does not excuse her actions.

Because right now it's not looking like there's going to be an alternative mislynch. You probably feel Ele is your best bet. scum!GP is is backtracking for self preservation.

I just think you're a member of the mafia (manners) with no real direction to go. That information benefits us so extraordinarily little and I don't think you truly believe otherwise.

That's even worse... How does confirming that there are three mafia in the game help us at all? How does it help us any more than simply taking his word for it for now. It's pretty common for there to be 3 mafia in this size game. If we lynch 3 and the game is still going, then Ele is condemned either way. His role doesn't give us much of an advantage regardless.

I feel really good about a GP lynch. I can understand a person having a different subjective opinion about Elemina. Green Poet's reasoning is what bothers me. She is solely basing her read of Ele on the fact that Ele did not claim right away. As shown in my previous posts, there is no reason this should be taken as scum tell.

"She lacks the aversion to risk as scum would have. She's been contently trying to push the game forward and comes off as very obviously trying to figure things out. All of her bazillion posts have had scumhunting intent behind them."

You're very welcome to ignore it.

Here's one of Ele's recent game: http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/3986-Hellville/page2 They go by Elephantality on there.

Yeah you had it correct the first time. But let me make sure I'm understanding here. You asked Makaze and Ashemu for games that Ele has played offsite? When was this? And have you read/skimmed any of them as of yet?

You're allowed to talk about the game outside of the game here?

I'm saying when Ele claimed, Yedi thought it was bad that she (Ele) outted her role. Not everyone automatically thinks the optimal strategy for the role is to claim it right away as you did. Ele not claiming right away is in no way suspicious.

I think it's foolish of you to assume that any person with that role would go about it exactly the same way as you. Yedi even thought the opposite when she claimed. That is evidence enough to show that not everyone would think of it the same way as you (unless you believe Yedi/Ele scum mates). I don't think you're foolish so you're probably scum.

Ah I see how you could have interpreted my read on Elemina that way. I don't know how many times I have to say that I have a town read on Elemina (and Ryker, and Spinal, and Irony). I said this in my first post in the game. I clarified this last night. I don't town read her for her role. She lacks the aversion to risk as scum would have. She's been contently trying to push the game forward and comes off as very obviously trying to figure things out. All of her bazillion posts have had scumhunting intent behind them.

Blitz claimed on the first page btw.

I think you should just stop pushing for an obvious mislynch. From what I've seen of you so far, you come off as intelligent enough to know that your case is garbage. If you're seriously going to push him on the basis of not claiming his role right away, then you're probably scum.

YOLO, to answer your question about Spinal. I have a town read on him. I disagree with his mafia philosophy, but he has been consistent in his approach. I liked early on that he disagreed with Elemina but maintained an open mind about his alignment.

Green Poet going after the obvtownie is disgusting.

Nevermind.

When is the deadline.