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  1. Just now, Jotari said:

    Well even before the time skip Palladrdo is trying to rob from Anna and when she tries to stop him he tries to have her and the party murdered. So I don't think it'd be entirely out of character for him to appear trying to swag the Chalice of Beginnings. I'm not going to tell people they're wrong when they see Metodey in that chapter and assume he's working as his own agent, but my personal reaction when I saw him was "This guy's an agent of the empire." Which is pretty reinforced in his battle quote when he says (sslightly paraphrase)  "Hehehe, soon everyone will know I'm an agent of the empire. Gah, I shouldn't have told you that. Well it won't matter if you're dead."

    Isn't that still after the timeskip, where fives years of war has been raging?

    Also, Metodey's battalion is "Thieves Raid". He's clearly not acting as an agent of the Empire, but literally working with a bunch of thieves. 

    The quote you are referring to is actually this:

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    Metodey: Just a few more moons, then all will know that I am the Empire's— Hm-hm-hm... Forget I said anything. Then again, if you die, it won't matter either way!

    Moons in 3H is referring to months, because each month has moon in it. 

    Metodey is saying that he's affiliated with the Empire by slip of the tongue, but he's talking about how he's supposed to be revealing himself a few months later, which is in regards to the attack on the Holy Tomb during Chapter 12. 

    Meaning right now, he's not acting as an agent of the Empire.

    Hell, Metodey literally didn't expect Edelgard to be there, and even tried to say that he can explain his reasons for being there.

  2. Just now, Jotari said:

    Well for your interpretation. I'm willing to give Edelgard more credit and suggest she has some acting talent.

    Regardless of stance, Metodey states this:

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    Metodey: I don't mind pain, but it's time to make my exit. My employer pays me more than this treasure is worth.

    He was clearly hired here and paid a lot for it. 

    And given by what we know about Cindered Shadows, it's clear that these attacks were all orchestrated by Alfreic. 

  3. 2 minutes ago, Jotari said:

    Well just because she expresses displeasure doesn't mean she's actually not pleased. She is basically undercover after all. And someone is obviously employing Metody to get the chalice. That it be the one character we see him working with doesn't seem like the largest leap in logic. Like how else would he have even found out about it? The only other suspect would be Aelfric, but why would he have any connection with Metody.

    That's not how Edelgard goes. That's like saying that her displeasure at seeing the Death Knight at Remire is just fake as well, when she's glad. 

    Like, no. 

    When Edelgard expresses disgust and anger at something, she means it. Something that actually is part of her plan generally has her being more cryptic about it. Like when talking about the Flame Emperor, Edelgard talks in a more cryptic tone. 

    Metodey's dialogue clearly implies that he was hired there, so yeah, the perp would have to be Aelfric. 

  4. 8 hours ago, Jotari said:

    I took his cindered shadows appearance to suggest Edelgard is pulling strings behind the scenes to try and get ahold of the Chalice of Beginnings, or whatever maguffin they're after at that point (hey maybe that's why she has Distant Counter only as an enemy, the main game is in a timeline where Metody won).

    Doubtful, given that even she wasn't pleased with his presence.

    Plus, their knowledge about the Chalice of Beginnings is that it's a forbidden artifact that failed to even fulfill its task of reviving the dead. Edelgard wouldn't bother with such an artifact.

  5. 6 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

    Except thats basically Roy too, and Leif, and you could say Seliph to an extent, and Eliwood. Marth is to me archetypal of about half of the males lords, albeit that percentage is now in decline thank goodness.

    Has Roy ever been insecure? Even Eliwood had little insecurity in him. 

    But it makes sense why Seliph and Leif would bear similarities, given that they are all Kaga's characters.

  6. 14 minutes ago, Jotari said:

    Maybe she was planning on using him more but his attitude pissed her off.

    I doubt that she saw him as someone that was in any way useful. And now that the Knights of Seiros was on his trail, he was already a dead man. I doubt that she had any further use for him, so it makes no sense to even try to meet him to discuss what happened. 

    If anything, that scene exists just as an excuse to say that Edelgard had ordered the attack for some purpose.

  7. 6 hours ago, SRPG Tryhard said:

    Byleth is also there to stop Dimitri from charging and they blow their cover when they are heard talking to each other. Byleth isn't there on the other routes. It's a stretch to say the scene would cut like what you are saying to deceive the players. Why would they do something like this for just this one scene? To hide from us the reason Dimitri hates Edelgard?

    When was he attacked by a dagger?

    I mean, he wasn't exactly stopped, so even without Byleth, and Dimitri was about to make a move, the dagger would have been thrown and the trio would have left in the end. 

    But the overall case is that they only made these types of scenes exclusive to the route you choose is... just that. To make these scenes exclusive. Apart from Edelgard, the other lords really don't get that much screen time in routes not dedicated about that.

    Edelgard maintains some presence even in BL and GD, cause she is the lead driving force of the plot. 

    Dimitri and Claude don't appear in CF apart from the two mock battles. 

    It's only in their given routes that they have the ability to really show some scenes that are about them. Like Claude reading up on the Immaculate One or revealing that he had come to Fodlan with an intent to steal the Sword of the Creator. Or Dimitri investigating Arundel or overhearing the talk between the Flame Emperor and Thales. 

  8. 3 hours ago, SRPG Tryhard said:

    BL version: https://fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/110

    BE: https://fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/109

    GD: https://fedatamine.com/en-us/scenarios/111

    He is not there to witness that scene in the other routes. We can tell because the scene unravels differently when Dimitri is there and he tries to attack them from the shadows. Also his dialogue in the monastery in the following chapter is different. In BL he starts hearing voices, he was evidently disturbed by something, but on the other routes he is still the usual.

    That's a cool assumption to make but it's contradicted in the game.

    How is it contradicted? The fact is, in BE and GD, the conversation is cut off when Thales says "All for a purpose..." whereas in BL, the conversation continues. 

    Also, the line of dialogue being different between BL and non-BL is a case of how much Dimitri is willing to open up and divulge because of Byleth's presence in the story for their house. 

    The same event of Dimitri being attacked by a dagger in non-BL routes can still happen, but we wouldn't know that unless we played BL. 

  9. 49 minutes ago, SRPG Tryhard said:

    I won't bother with arbitrary speculatio on "what-ifs" but here's a question about about Dimitri investigating Arundel: it is strange why he accuses Edelgard of Duscur in CF. In that route he never witnesses the Flame Emperor conversing with Thales when he brings up Duscur, which is what connected Edelgard to the tragedy in his mind. So why does he say Edelgard killed their mom before his death? Maybe he continued investigating into Arundel, but then still, why wouldn't he blame it on him who he already suspects, instead of her who he knows is his childhood friend who was 14 at that time? It's very strange, and kinda smells of plot hole to me, but there are more weird things like this about Dimitri among all routes...

    I'm of the mind that everything you see from the characters in Part 1 during their routes canonically happens.

    In that Dimitri overhears the conversation between Thales and the Flame Emperor on every route, as Claude reads up about the Immaculate One, and so on and so forth. 

    Also, Dimitri isn't exactly sane in the head. Hell, even in gameplay, he has a bane in "Reason", so he's not exactly logical. Obviously he will convince himself that Edelgard was responsible for Duscur, no matter how illogical it might seem. 

    I think the dumber thing is that no one bothers to even correct him in the game. Like, no one points out that there's no way that a 13-14 year old girl could have been behind Duscur.

  10. 6 hours ago, GrandeRampel said:

    I will say something controversial: Clarine > Lachesis. But they are both pretty cute and funny in this comic.

    Least with Clarine, the incest is not so bad that people are sympathetic to it. 

    It bothers me a lot at how the Oosawa manga makes you sympathize with Eldigan and Lachesis's incestuous feelings, and makes Eldigan's wife into an unsympathetic person, because she's angry that Eldigan has obvious feelings for his half-sister. 

  11. Just now, Jotari said:

    Dimitri might claim that, but Rhea really has no reason to agree with him.

    Perhaps, but at the same time, this would hurt Rhea and the Church's reputation, because this can be used to make people believe that the Church actually conspired with the Empire to assassinate Lambert.

    The Church executed several nobles under the pretense of executing the people that conspired for Lambert's death. 

    If Dimitri ultimately declares that the Empire was the true mastermind behind it, the Church will thus be seen with mistrust, as that might mean that the Church lied to them.

  12. 1 minute ago, Jotari said:

    That's not really the same thing at all though. We're talking about who or if at all the Church would get involved in a war between the Empire and the Kingdom if the Kingdom was the one starting the war.

    And I'm saying that Dimitri would actually grow to want revenge so badly that he would start to use any means necessary to get his revenge, including getting the Church to back him up on this.

    And as I said, the Church got involved with the Tragedy of Duscur, meaning that the Church now has an obligation to support the Kingdom on this. 

  13. 1 minute ago, Jotari said:

    So you think Dimitri would want revenge on them and push the Church into an alliance with the empire? That's certainly flip things on its head.

    Dimitri does exactly that in CF. He entered the war with the Empire by allying himself with the Church. He used the Church as a means to get his revenge. Even tried to use the Church as bait in the Tailtean Plains so that he could flank the Empire, which only got thwarted because of the rain. 

    CF Dimitri proves that he can hold onto his obsessive desire for revenge and madness, without being particularly open about it. He learned to hide it better under false pretenses. Basically a much more advanced form of how Dimitri acted in Part 1, pretending to be a nice guy, when secretly masking the desire to get revenge.

  14. 1 minute ago, Jotari said:

    Yeah, but that's not the scenario in question here. The scenario is that the Kingdom is starting the war, in which case the church doesn't have any real reason to assist them (militarily).

    Actually, do they not? It was THEM that took over the investigation of Duscur and executed various nobles of Faerghus. 

    So by all accounts, the Church is now involved with the matter and can't just back out when there's a link of the Tragedy of Duscur to the Empire.

  15. 2 minutes ago, Moltz23 said:

    Is the main conflict from this game avoidable? In my honest opinion, yes and no.

    Broadly speaking, certain decisions like looking for allies elsewhere, talking with each other and seeking for a mutual consensus where everyone wins and loses something could potentially prevent the whole war from happening. However, making the important players from Three Houses take those choices without absolutely breaking their character is in my opinion an impossible feat without heavily rewriting them to the point their names is the only thing kept from the original draft (in particular Edelgard and Rhea).

    In that regard, it very much feels like the writers did an spectacular job with writing Fódlan into a wall so it gets wrecked by a conflict with the pieces the game offers you. But if everyone wasn't so flawed and traumatised? Then yeah, you could potentially fix stuff more peacefully.

    For there to be an avoidance of war, Dimitri needs to get over his revenge (so post-Gronder AM Dimitri), Claude needs to trust others more (VW development), Rhea needs to let go of her mother (5 year imprisonment in non-CF routes), and Edelgard needs to overall regain her "heart" (CF development). 

    Overall, everyone needs the development that they only get in Part 2 of their general respective routes. 

    It's impossible, therefore. 

  16. 3 hours ago, Jotari said:

    That would be the well trained well equipped mercenary part of my comment (plus or minus some contrived scenarios to have you visit maps that were actually designed for some other moment in the story in paralogues). I don't want to downplay the quality of the Knights of Seiros, but I think it's clear in how Part 1 ends and from just simply looking at the map and the logistics of such a small area that the knights of Seiros are a strong force, but that the Church simply can't muster the hard power to match the other countries in full scale military.

    While that is true, the Knights of Seiros are still a large enough force that are pretty powerful.

    And overall, they don't even need to be the strongest military. 

    The Church's political influence basically allows them to employ the other nations to fight alongside with them. The Kingdom being basically subservient to the Church means that most of the Kingdom would, by default, aid them. 

    That's kind of the importance of the Church holding sway over the masses and having political influence over nations and the nobility. 

  17. Keep in mind that Arundel is the regent of the Empire. The Insurrection of the Seven meant that the Agarthans and other corrupt nobles of the Empire hold the power. If you try to attack Arundel, then you basically declared war. 

    Yeah, Dimitri learning that Arundel was connected to Duscur and trying to harm Arundel would instigate war. 

    Let's not pretend that Dimitri wouldn't do that. He literally admits that he came to Garreg Mach for revenge, and he wouldn't have the clarity to really understand that if he were to try and harm the Empire's regent, he would basically cause war to happen. 

     

  18. 5 minutes ago, Jotari said:

    If we're just taking base concept into account then I find a dashing lord showing up to sweep a young girl away from the life of strict secrecy she's been confined to like her mother before her just as good as the rather cliched childhood friends trope. It's just Genealogy is heavily hampered by being a game and not having sufficient time to dedicate to that. Which let's face it would need to be a full on romance story with Deirdre and not Sigurd as the focus character. Likewise Gaiden is hampered in developing it's relationship between Alm and Celica by having two separate playable lords on different routes. Neither would be impossible to execute well, and actually showing their backstory a bit really helped Shadows of Valentia, but the gameplay is interfering with the ease in telling both stories.

    Yeah, but based on that, Deirdre could legit easily have fallen in love with Arvis by that logic. Like, if Arvis jsut so happened to be there, helped Deirdre out, that she would just fall for him. Not Sigurd. 

    So it makes sense why Deirdre would fall for anyone that was at the right place, right time. 

    But Sigurd fell for her just cause she was hot. Basically. 

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