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  1. Axel987
    I'm well aware of the de-humanisation aspect, I just wondered if that ever gets expanded on, although given how -criminally- underused Almyra is in general, likely not. It's unfortunate because we also don't get to learn why the people in Fodlan dislike the Almyran's so much beyond them constantly invading for fun, which mind you is understandable to dislike and likely feeds into why they refer to the Almyran's as beasts; they think they're uncivilized barbarians. I'm not trying to defend slavery here mind you, I'm a person of colour myself and I abhor it. I just think it's an aspect of the game that isn't really gone into too much surprisingly despite it being a big factor of Claude's character. IMO us not seeing Holst and Nader interact is a missed opportunity in this respect as we could've learned more from either side and seen the beginnings of some form of reconcillation.
  2. Axel987
    Oh absolutely it's one of the most side-lined aspects of 3H lmao. House Goneril straight up captures and enslaves the child soldiers used by the Almyran Invaders. I frankly did not pay much attention to the ending texts for Hilda in any route but is that like, ever actually adressed beyond her paralogue?
  3. Axel987
    I'm unsure about what effect Rhea has had on him but it's definitely stated he was an orphan and then used a child soldier by the Almyrans during their seasonal raids on Fodlan's locket, so I imagine his -really- negative opinions come from his experiences during that time.
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    Do people actually say that?? Like the logical complaint is not seeing her actually go after the Agarthans after the church is taken down, not the other way around. Why would she go after the Agarthans first when they're supplying her with troops and weapons for now and they've got a common enemy lol.
  5. Axel987
    Honestly that one lie is what makes me dislike you not fighting them in the actual story more. Like, it sets up that even as she becomes closer to her support-network, she still feels like she cannot fully trust them. Before the mission she doesn't fully fill you in on who Cornelia ACTUALLY is and why you're going after her specifically. Then she lies about what happened to Arianrhod to everyone, likely to prevent further retaliation but to also increase morale. It makes pragmatic sense but it also sets up the expectation that that lie will come back to bite her, especially with an npc stating they feel like Edelgard isn't telling them the full truth. It would've been best if we got to see the aftermath because there's interesting plot lines like that still unresolved.
  6. Axel987
    I remembered it being shared. It's been a bit. Dimitri isn't dumb in so far as -very- emotionally driven. He's a lot more tempered and composed in CF as he doesn't go through the congo-train of further trauma the other routes put him through. He's capable of strategy well enough when necessary. Are you fine with spoilers, I'd have to go into a good bit of that to explain Seteth, for example.
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    I think it feels more odd, than anything. Because just a chapter prior she was fully capable of a pretty brutal and devious pincer attack in conjunction with the Kingdom Forces. I don't mind the chapter's setting because it's cool as fuck inherently, but it does feel odd to see her burn down her own fortress immediantly rather than doing it right after they enter IMO. It'd get the point across of her simply not caring about what she has to do to kill Edelgard and Byleth still while not feeling as incredibly stupid. That's just how I feel about it though.
  8. Axel987
    Beyond that, Claude's character and subsequent development is a lot more muted and subtle than Dimitri or even Edelgard. Subtle isn't bad but he leaves less of an impression as a result, granted. Given how this game's community argues about those two and Rhea, it's for the better for those who like Claude haha. The game also horribly mistranslates his title of "Master Tactician" when in the original versions it's more akin to "Tabletop Demon" from what I hear. He's definitely more of a political beast than some god tier strategist that the English version makes him out to be.
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    Honestly I think we should generally stop trying to argue about the intro-chapter's events. It's basically completely ignored past chapter 2 and both fan theories; it being a direct assassination attempt vs an attempt to install Jeritza have some pretty big holes in them. Probably best to go with the meta reason of it just existing as a nice segue into Divine Pulse+ Byleth meeting the lords, as well as to set up the Flame Emperor as someone pulling the strings.
  11. Axel987
    The bluff is said regardless in BE if you talk to her. She also brings Crest Beasts seemingly of her own volition, so I find that claim rather dubious personally.
  12. Axel987
    Experimentation aside, yeah the Insurrection of the Seven could 100% happen just fine without TWSITD. Tragedy could also happen in the form of a power struggle within the kingdom itself. House Kleiman was already notoriously against whatever King Lambert's reforms were. Could simply have them plot an assasination during the trip to Duscur to remove him from power, while making it look like it was done by people from Duscur. The events largely still play out the same, Dimitri barely survives, tries to stop the ensueing massacre but nobody believes him. House Kleiman takes over Duscur lands and bleeds it dry of it's resources. Dimitri still meets Dedue and their relationship acts out the same. All that'd be necessary is maybe make Kleiman into a bigger house so them being capable of something like this is more understandable.
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    To what degree are we removing them from the story. Their presence entirely, or their actions in the main story's events? I think that's a pretty important thing to establish before moving onto further hypotheticals.
  14. Axel987
    I think it could have worked as a two-path story, with just the Church vs Edelgard. Dimitri and Claude could end up joining either side depending on your actions possibly. It'd have to rewrite a lot of things though since without the Agarthan's existing a lot of Rhea's actions lose some sympathetic context and hence siding with her would be much more difficult to justify.
  15. Axel987
    Him being a minor nuisance is what irritates me, I feel. Dude just bombs your new stronghold the moment you make a move against him. I hate to quote TvTropes but he's effectively set up as the Greater Scope Villain. Actually seeing what he would do now that you basically finished his dirty work for him would've been interesting. He already knows you can and will act against him. Maybe I'm expecting too much from TWSITD given they mostly get wiped out in a single raid with a few stragglers left in VW. They're as threatening or non-threatening as the plot demands, I suppose. I think what I'd want from that ending would probably require more changes to CH16 through 18 of CF to work well. Interesting proposition. Honestly i was hoping the DLC was more Agarthan based, or War of Heroes stuff. That'd have felt a lot more interesting than what effectively ended up being an AU + Bandaid.
  16. Axel987
    I think the issue with that is that the game explicitly acts like that is what's going to happen. The moment you get done with fighting the Church, you're turning your blade on Those Who Slither in The Dark. There's even a small plotline started up with Edelgard lying about what happened to Arianrhod, providing some grounds for character growth where she reveals the truth or is forced to do so later on. Part of her character is that she begins to actually trust those around her, use that more! IIRC there's even a character/npc after Arianrhod who worries that Edelgard isn't telling them the whole truth. Rhea's fight is hella climactic but it doesn't have the same emotional payoff that taking down Thales would IMO. We're talking about the guy that orchestrated everything, led to the experimentation of her siblings, led to her one remaining sibling wanting to kill her, experimented on her and is actively threatening her with WMD's.
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    In CF Hubert directly states that they are only allied with TWSITD out of necessity and Edelgard doesn't -want- to work with them but feels she needs to, for their resources and power. It's one of CF's weaker points in that the actual catharsis of finally sticking it to them is left entirely to the credits, when more than anything CF is the route where you would most want to do so. Edelgard even points out that Dimitri in the end was just another puppet for Thales to use against her, Thales even appears before you take the fight to Rhea at Fhirdiad. Personally this is what soured me on CF a bit, despite actually coming to slowly like it a lot in spite of my initial view, as things progressed. CF is straight up missing 2 incredibly important chapters that end up making what could be an excellent route feel like it blue-balled you.
  18. Axel987
    It's a different way of handling grief; Rodrigue and Ingrid romanticize Glenn and think the absolute world of him. It's a way of keeping themselves from falling into despair, because if they allow themselves to think his death was for nothing, that he didn't die in the line of duty honorably, that realisation would hurt far more than anything else.(As toxic as it is, I think Faerghus is incredibly interesting as a result.) Felix thinks it's absolutely garbage. However it's an interesting thing to note that Felix handles his grief by taking parts of those he lost upon himself; Dimitri in an AM conversation points out that Felix has "Become just like Glenn" in terms of personality, vs when he was younger and relatively a lot meeker. Notice how he ends up taking up parts of Dimitri in VW and SS and even in CF thinks he also becomes the same as him? Yeah. Personally I'd say he still becomes like Dimitri in CF, he just actually realises it rather than it happening slowly and without him noticing. It's a difference of interpretation there I suppose. The thing with his people rebelling is that they're rebelling against Cornelia who was taxing them dry, starving them and executing them. They just see that they actually have a chance now and side with their -previously thought to have been executed- king.
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    Felix is my favourite character in the game and it is deeply ironic that no matter what he ends up taking upon himself some of the parts of Dimitri that he -hates- if he is recruited out of the Blue Lions. I saw an interesting thread about it on tumblr a while back; https://purplespacefairy.tumblr.com/post/188460069325/negative-character-development-felix-in-crimson
  20. Axel987
    The fully rational thing may have worked with -another- character(While a fearsome warrior as stated through his campaign in Gautier/Sreng territory, Lambert was actively employing diplomacy with Duscur before he got assasinated) but being irrational is an inherent part of Dimitri's character for most of the game, so the hypothetical would have to make a lot of assumptions to work with him. While partly to blame I wouldn't put all of the 'not rational' aspects unto the actively toxic culture though since the inciting factor for said irrationality is steeped in survivor's guilt leading to severe mental illness. Multiple factors that led to it in the end. And yeah, as I said while his own personal motivator stems from the invading force being led by the focus of his want for vengeance, he is also acting to defend his home, his friends and his subjects, as seen by his dialogue with Dedue if you take him out first. One does not drown out the other and both are understandable reasons. Part 1 has a scene where the Flame Emperor directly blames Thales for Duscur, who then responds by saying it was all done FOR the Flame Emperor, implying they could have ordered it or inherently benefitted from it. The Flame Emperor also does not deny that. The Flame Emperor disowns the actions of TWSITD earlier into the plot and says they would have acted against them if they knew, however continues to be allied with them, moving forward from the murder of Jeralt and the use of Crest Beasts in the Holy Tomb. This inherently implicates them as someone not worthy of trust, which Dimitri already believed meaning it only confirmed his doubt of their words. Furthermore he has been investigating Lord Arundel for some time before the game's plot occurs and guess what? Edelgard is Lord Arundel's niece. By the time the reveal happens he has no reason to trust her saying she didn't do it, because she's already established herself as an active liar and manipulator. It's a lot of incidental evidence and Dramatic Irony plays into it for sure since you, as the player, would know it WASN'T her, as brought up by Omegaxis1, in that she was held in Enbarr and being experimented on at the time, but -he- doesn't know that. Nobody knows all the facts and with what he was -actively- presented I can definitely see why he thought it was her.
  21. Axel987
    Relay orders in a vast battlefield with rain that is already interrupting communications with their allies and slowing their own movement, taking up even more time as the empire continues to march on them? If it was something that happens before the battle even begins I could think it more reasonable but by the time one even turns into a monster, you can have killed off several of them already. It's really not a position in which he was particularly able of doing much other than begrudingly standby lol. I'd harken it to the non-CF situation with the Hrym territories where Edelgard's hand is tied too and she's effectively forced to comply. Either way, thanks for the good conversation the past couple hours. It's getting real late here so I think I'll bowe out now, have a good one.
  22. Axel987
    Misunderstood that then, alrighty. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on the Ingrid one then. I can absolutely see Felix or Sylvain joining BE and doing so for their own reasons, Ingrid can somewhat end up working on CF, she ends up mostly just being there because Byleth is Just That Charismatic. And as you say, that happens in all non-AM routes. As I said, it's the recruitment being kind of half baked overall. His lines in response to Dedue revealing he gave them crest stones; "Why did you do that? You call this hope? Well....we must claim victory so their sacrifice was not in vain." He definitely does not agree or 'allow' them to do this, but by this point he can't stop them and the Empire is right in front of them. The fact that they did this behind his back alone implies that he would have never allowed them to do this if his hand wasn't basically forced as it were here.
  23. Axel987
    The relationship very much so started as them being friends, Dedue in part 2 also inherently states that he always knew about the 'part 2' Dimitri that he kept to himself. It turned into the vassal based relationship because it was kind of forced on Dedue by their culture, rather than Dimitri ever actually wanting it(It's stated pretty explicitly in their supports that he just wants Dedue to treat him as a friend again more than anything) It's just that Dedue couldn't really help that well because he has his own skeletons in his closet(Much like Dimitri, Dedue bottles up that rage real hard, arguably even harder.)which they ended up bonding over. Hence the co-dependent thing. Ferdinand pretty heavily criticises pre Chapter 18/19 Dimitri in AM but ends up changing his opinion of him over time, since he seems to identify most with his approach to things personally, once he actually moves past his obsessiveness. I'll be frank; recruitment as a system in 3H is kinda half baked. There's some genuinely good bits with Ashe and Lorenz having to be re-recruited for example, but then there's also some characters being immediant parts of the BL army, rather than joining up overtime(which would make more sense. You recruit them in the academy and are re-added to your army as you progress.) There also should have been more characters that simply cannot be recruited if you take a certain path, much like Dedue and Hubert are. Like, I seriously don't see Lorenz joining the Blue Lions for example, or Ingrid the Black Eagles, in the war phases.
  24. Axel987
    Ah, yeah. That part is rather interesting too, considering the following; After the death of Lambert, the Kingdom had chaos and banditry pop up everywhere. He believes the people of Duscur are entirely innocent for what happened that day and that the perpetrator was someone completely unrelated to them. He is actively isolated from his friends like Sylvain, Ingrid and Felix for years, with Dedue being his only real companion, someone who he ends up having a mutually co-dependent relationship with. That one twitter post explaining how the belief that those who die with lingering regrets are effectively stuck in hell, a belief traditionally held in eastern faerghus(which Fhirdiad is a part of) as per Annette's support with Claude. He spends years in Fhirdiad, alone. Only one friend, basically no family left that he's close to(his relationship with his uncle is implied to be strained)and left with the knowledge that his people committed genocide. No matter what he did, no matter how hard he tried to stop them, they went and destroyed the people of Duscur for a crime they did not commit. His country is slowly going to shit under an inept leadership and he is raised with the expectation that -he- is going to fix it, one of his own personal goals is to clear the people of Duscur and make reparations to them, Sylvain thinks that things will get better after Dimitri takes the throne and Felix expresses similar sentiments. The sheer amount of expectations on his shoulders in part 1 is immense and is probably -why- he bottles everything up so hard, even exemplified by how Felix reacts the ONE time he sees what he calls 'the boar'. He practically disowns and de-humanises Dimitri. At 15 years old. That kind of stuff has some seriously harmful effects to one's already worsening mental health. He puts up a mask of ye' ol noble perfect prince because that is what he -has- to be. Anything less is unacceptable, anything less will have his friends hate him from his perspective. Hell, until very late into part 1, outside of confiding in Byleth he really tries to keep his quest for revenge to himself. Nobody else needs to involve themselves in his mess. As much as I like him post character development, part 1 Dimitri has some seriously interesting build up as to how he gets the way he is that is.
  25. Axel987
    Nope, as seen in the thread there's english versions for it too, I just mentioned the JP version because the delivery and his defeat dialogue makes it clearer who he's referring to. The lines simply don't play out that way if you do not recruit Ingrid & Felix, so that might be why? The distinction also exists with Dimitri's lines in the meeting with Rhea at Fhirdiad too; he explicitly mentions Rodrigue, Ingrid and Felix if they fall there. Incidentally in the JP version Dimitri's lines in part 2 don't tend to be quite nearly as aggressive as his ENG counterpart(He's subject to a decent bit of mistranslations himself, although not to the extent of Edelgard); a good example is his dialogue at reunion of dawn for one; Considering how he thinks you're an imperial spy/assassin(rather from the dukedom more likely) when you first talk to him in part 2, it's pretty clear he was constantly on the run which is why he is so paranoid for most of the first half of AM. The coup, Dedue's perceived death and the isolation from his entire support network is what led to that, not a single event in -heh- isolation. Much like Edelgard he feels like he has no choice -but- to isolate himself, so that is an interesting comparison indeed.
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