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pichu is the love of my life in a not weird way but i also use fox since winning is nice (they're also oddly statistically similar, which makes transitioning between the two somewhat feasible)... that said, people get (over)hyped about my pichu a lot, and he's a blast to play as.

his skill level has nothing to do with yours sounds good oh you could've at least put up a link of masha (japanese player, unquestionably the best bowser) beating better meta knights. funny thing about masha is that he or she never beat somebody like nairo, m2k, rain, kakera, whomever kakera's brother is because i don't remember his name, anti, etc... knife also has an excellent point. you should also know there's a problem when double meta knight is banned in teams and meta knight is scattered across the top results in every major tournament. on topic, i hate nintendo now

i love pichu to death, but fox is extremely fun to play as. i never clicked with link at all in any of the games.

maybe. i don't think more matchups = more depth, just "more" content.

congratulations. is it a boy or a girl?

soul you do know that there is a song called "meta knight da bess" for a reason, right? ICs did not beat him. he was a heavier jigglypuff with marth's sword and happened to have amazing frame data and transcendant hitboxes on almost every move he had. ICs were actually worse since watching them play is like shoving icicles in your eyes.

melee is actually more deep than PM. not even a matter of opinion, brawl's engine messes up stuff from melee and doesn't have as much to it. think what you will though, but what i said is all that matters to me.game preferences aside, this is sad to see. i also wished we could see lyn and knuckles one day.

it's not as much of a 50/50 as you think. at kill % at places like battlefield, you can jump to get away from vanish and up air. sheik's vanish invincibility takes a while to start up too, so you can spike her during the startup if you can reach her.

what do you mean by that?

tag, if i may ask? and do you do netplay?

i think tipper up smash through battlefield platforms should be mentioned weak nair to footstool is probably a thing or should be a thing

sheik has TONS of cool techs. if you side b right as you run off the stage, you can grab the ledge and the grenade still explodes. you can also buffer jabs and any other attacks out of her needle cancel (useful because you can do this out of a run and wavebounce it and stuff and it's super duper fast) which is amazing and probably nearly broken. if you needle cancel right before hitting the ground, you either get soft landing lag or no landing lag. not sure which, probably soft. bouncing fish if used when sheik sort of touches the the stage with her lower half will end in the cartwheel animation which has much less lag than normal bouncing fish landing lag. needles to bouncing fish is one of my favourite combos. diagonal needles can also be used to force airdodges from characters that need to go low to recover, like marcina. if sheik does this with perfect spacing, marcina can't recover unless they have a double jump. nobody talks about it but her crouch is an okay way to avoid aerials and higher projectiles. it doesn't go quite low enough to avoid useful normals, sadly. vanish can autocancel if it ends about 1 sheik height away from the ground. on a side note that's sort of related, i learned that soft landing lag (what you get when you don't do anything or autocancel) for most characters in smash 4 is 2 frames. sheik also has an aerial interrupt with her double jump. this video can explain what that means. forward throwing ganon is also fun to do since you can kill him at zero with fair chains to a gimp. for those that are curious i think fair is -3 or -4 on shield, depending on if it's stale. i don't remember nair but it's safe. pretty sure sheik can do stuff like nair / fair into f tilt or jab to for shield pressure stuff. fair and weak nair are also confirms into bouncing fish, with nair working at kill percent. i bet sheik can also dair ike's up b to spike him and also get hit by his sword so she doesn't die. the sword part probably isn't needed since you can use dair while facing the stage and still spike people off stage (i did this to pkl's meta knight, it was awesome). this is just theorycrafting though. up tilt also combos into pivot up tilt and grab and anything slower, so i guess f tilt confirm into up air would work (ban T&C against sheik, ban everything actually lol)

looks insane is an opinion. if you look at a melee match with reasonably skilled players using any character except peach (she has her own stuff to use), they do use wavedashing and wavelanding. even peach gets some mileage out of it, actually. samus is actually decent, please don't group her with zelda. quality of aesthetics (that word is amazing) is subjective, once again... tripping was random and put people in awful positions. wavedashing was another option for people to skillfully use instead of, say, land in front of somebody's shield, they grab you on reaction before you grab them even though you read that they would shield instead of being able to wavedash back which covers roll and lets you dash grab. you made me laugh when you effectively said "anybody whose opinion doesn't match mine needs to shut up". self destructing easily is a legitimate complaint. i think it's okay since it's something that almost needs to be sacrificed to make a game as complex as melee. you can't say melee's mechanics were "broken", but you can say you don't like them. stop looking in the mirror, some people don't find the amount of characters to be the thing that makes or breaks the game. some people that aren't you actually like melee because of the fast, complex gameplay. if you don't like that, that's fine, but you don't have to whine about it. did you seriously just call falco, who has consistently high placings in pretty much every tournament up to date, bad? graphics don't make a game. the other stuff is just you whining about art styles that you don't prefer being used for the game. it's fine that you don't like them, but don't say melee is awful because they don't match your preferences. i'd also bet that you'd take some shots from zelda fans for "the worst zeldas thing" which i find funny. easy justification for yoshi and mewtwo: "i don't care about graphics much". out of curiosity, would you also say 64 is a bad game because of its graphics, which are much worse than melee's?

i'm just going to comment about the wavedashing thing since everything else was absurd (not that this wasn't, i just didn't find it as absurd as the other stuff). you can argue about it being a glitch or not all day, but it affects the game in a positive way by giving movement options. if smash 4 had more mivement options to keep the pace up and make more options viable, then it would be more interesting imo. elitism in favor of new things is also be a thing btw that video made me sad.

you need to set that up

no i just let you think thatfine. i have a few days and nothing to do. dread we should do melee netplay

i thought you died

melee "elitist" here i don't like the other games as much bcause they don't fulfill my criteria for an enjoyable game. i don't hate everything that isn't melee, i dislike (much better word) games that aren't as entertaining in my opinion. same is true for nearly all other "elitists". the only reason people see arguments all the time between this is because the smash games have almost nothing in common in terms of game mechanics, yet they are often gerouped together. another big thing is that to a melee fan, one of the other games will be comparatively trash, if that helps anybody understand. same thing can be said for anybody that prefers older games in a series or what not. and the other guy wasn't denying that elitists exist. "petty" is subjective. brawl is nearly unplayable to me, but others can play it and have fun and i won't judge them for that. and almost everyone says a certain group of elitists are awful and stuff which is not a good thing to say since it encourages people to not like you and other people that say anything. alienating them from the base to make them less likely to get into what you like also isn't good.

seems contradictory to call wolf and co gutter trash and then say you won't complain about them, just saying

Sheik

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/nu-294411006 the only one i remembered to get. the first battle was the same thing except longer. GG's izuhark.

falcon, sheik

well there are a ton of characters in smash 4 too... though it is definitely the largest, proportionally, and not

he doesn't need them, shine spike and bair gimp everything. nair sets up for shield pressure and combos into bair and itself, and lasers are icing on the cake. firefox just for the invincibility stall which he doesn't even need on yoshi's story.

Falcon Jab Nair Up air Dair Fair Down throw are footstools classified as given movement? nair to foostool at 0 is a confirm to kill ness and some others. Melee Fox Shine Lasers Firefox Nair Bair Up throw