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I somehow got spooked by Liana while rolling for Lana.
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28 minutes ago, Sire said:
I would say Liana for the "Again" skill (think of Fire Emblem dancers, but on a cooldown) but because you have Tiaris for healing I'm gonna say Lana. Lana is the best spellcaster in the game. She has the 2nd highest INT stat of all heroes (beaten only by Renne from the LoH collab), she has extra range on her spells, and access to great skills!
Thanks for the input. I'm lacking a solid spellcaster, so focusing on Lana does seem like the better choice.
And I'm questioning whether I'm just bad or if the game's difficulty rating is bunk. I'm trying to do Luna's first Gate of Fate mission, which is rated as level 25, with a level 26 and I'm getting absolutely destroyed. Doesn't help that I can't field any unit other than Luna, have no healers and there's way more enemies than allies.
Keep looking to see if someone made a guide for it, but resources for this game seems to be kind of thin. I've heard the CN server is ahead, so there might be vids or guides from people who did it there, but I have no idea where to start looking for those if they exists.
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Decided to pick up this game last week and I've been having a lot of fun with it despite not knowing a thing about Langrisser. Do have to get used to how premium currency works in this game. Needing 88 for a single pull is kind of baffling when coming from FEH and FGO.
Still feels a bit lost about the game's systems, but I think I'm starting to figure it out by picking things up here and there.
As far as the units I've been using, I managed to snag myself 4 SSRs from the gacha : Ledin, Luna, Tiaris and Cherie (on top of the one I got from the Path of Light). Considering those units and that the first SRs I got and invested into were Freya, Sonya and Chris, it seems like going with the Princess faction is the way to go for me. I was saddened to learn that Freya falls off later in game due to bosses being immune to her gimmick, but apparently Ledin is the premium replacement for her in Princess teams, so at least I'm set there. Also saw that Liana and Lana were good units for Princess based teams and in general, but considering their banner ends in 3 days, I'll need luck to get them. Might just alternate single rolling between their banners instead of saving for 10 rolls (unless 10 rolls have an increased chance of yielding an SSR)
Anyway, for people who would wish to add me, my UN is the same as here and I'm on the Roga Valley server.
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Got stuck with an all green summoning ring that gave NY!Fjorm, the only green unit I didn't care about because I already had her. And she's neutral like my first. I'd fodder her, but I can't think of any unit that would vastly improved by getting any of her skills.
So when I take into account the duplicate PA!Azura I got from the previous one, I can't say I'm all that impressed with this celebration gift. I would have taken the 50 orbs they gave us last year instead.
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Decided to try out buster memes for the final challenge quest with a Jalter + double memelin. Managed to do it in 48 turns with Jalter and both Merlins being at max HP at the end of the battle. It's pretty much as braindead a set up as I've heard. I sometime had 4 stacks of GoA going at the same time and Jalter was dropping NPs every other turn and having an Avenger definitely made the Jeanne and Amakusa fights much easier.
Didn't manage to get Edmond, but a yolo ticket on the 5M banner netted me a second Da Vinci, which I really appreciate for the NP damage increase. Can't wait for her second interlude to bump her NP2 damage to the level of her current NP5.
Also farmed the doors as much as I could with the free time I had and without using apples. Went from 15M qp to 115M, though I could see that melting quickly with all the skills I need to level on my SSRs.
Looking at the Valentines event, the gears from the shop will leave me 4 short of being able to max Merlin, though I hope I'll be able to get them from one of the node in the event. The lanugo will also be appreciated for when I finally get enough Proofs and Dusts to level up Musashi's skills.
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My plan was to pull from the colorless or red pool, but that plan got dashed pretty quickly when my session consisted of 4 green orbs and 1 blue. Decided to for green and ended up with my second copy of PA!Azura. Not all that exciting considering that she has nothing of value to fodder. At least she has a better nature with +Atk/-Res compared to +HP/-Def, but it's not like being +1 and +Atk will make her substantially more useful than before since I use her mostly as a support unit.
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I was excited for the Dragonflowers until I saw how much it costs to +5 a unit and that it's not grindable. The huge cost would have been fine if we could grind it and not being able to grind would have been fine if it didn't cost an absurd amount, but both combined just mean we have yet another important currency gated behind weekly rewards from PvP modes. I know we can get flowers outside of AR in the Heroic Ordeals, but unless 8 is not the maximum, it's not much. If 8 is indeed the max we can get, that means you need to accomplish 75 ordeals to +5 a single character. I can't imagine how costly +10 an Infantry unit will be.
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For the Special Heroes banners,
First banner will have a total of 31 units with :
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4 Reds
- Summer Leo
- Halloween Nowi
- Winter Tharja
- New Year Camilla
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8 Blues
- Spring Xander
- Spring Lucina
- Bridal Caeda
- Bridal Charlotte
- Summer F!Robin
- Summer F!Corrin
- Performing Arts Shigure
- Winter M!Robin
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11 Greens
- Spring Chrom
- Spring Camilla
- Summer A!Tiki
- Summer Xander
- Summer Elise
- Performing Arts Inigo
- Performing Arts Azura
- Halloween Henry
- Winter Chrom
- Winter Lissa
- New Year Azura
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8 Colorless
- Bridal Cordelia
- Bridal Lyn
- Summer Gaius
- Summer Frederick
- Performing Arts Olivia
- Halloween Jakob
- Halloween Sakura
- New Year Takumi
Second banner will have a total of 34 units with :
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7 Reds
- Bridal Tharja
- Summer Tana
- Summer Y!Tiki
- Hoshidan Festival Micaiah
- Halloween Myrrh
- New Year Hrid
- New Year Gunnthra
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8 Blues
- Valentines Lyn
- Spring Catria
- Bridal Ninian
- Summer Cordelia
- Summer Camilla
- Hoshidan Festival Ryoma
- Halloween Niles
- Winter Ephraim
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10 Greens
- Valentines Lillina
- Valentines Hector
- Spring Alfonse
- Spring Sharena
- Bridal Sanaki
- Summer Innes
- Hoshidan Festival Elincia
- Halloween Kagero
- Winter Fae
- New Year Fjorm
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9 Colorless
- Valentines Roy
- Spring Kagero
- Summer Noire
- Summer Linde
- Summer Takumi
- Hoshidan Festival Xander
- Halloween Mia
- Winter Eirika
- New Year Laevatain
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4 Reds
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4 minutes ago, Dr. Tarrasque said:
I had missed Arden and Dorcas making a 2 with their hands when first looking through the pictures. It's definitely the best.
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8 minutes ago, Drakhis said:
And? It's not the fault of Camilla's fan. IS like Camilla, and Camilla sales well.
Think about the scenario where your favorite character gets many alts, and you want him to win. And people harassing you for that.
It's the same for Camilla's fan. It's not funny at all, even joking about it isn't fun anymore, because of all the complaining from some people.
Definitely agree. I don't like Camilla all that much and I'm kind of sick of IS pushing her so hard in FEH, but at one point I was sick of how much vitriol Camilla fans were getting during this CYL just because they want to get a Brave version of their favorite character. All the conspiracy theories and personal attacks were getting really insane for what was just a popularity contest for a mobile game.
And I know I wasn't addressed the question, but at the moment, I'm split between Elincia and adult Tiki for next year's CYL.
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1 minute ago, Alexmender said:
Depends on how far she is in RD's story. I'm not a big fan of Micaiah's behavior on part 3 so I'd prefer if her CYL variant had 0 lines about that part of the game. I'm not a fan of her 3rd tier class but that doesn't worry me because Brave units will always reference something else.
Thinking about it, it wouldn't be surprised to see B!Micaiah in Sanaki's clothing.
SpoilerLooking back at the previous CYL units, they mostly make references to them being chosen by thousands of people and to the person that influenced their outfit. So chances are we'll get a Sanaki inspired,a Sothe inspired or a Sephiran inspired outfit
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4 minutes ago, Florete said:
People keep saying Three Houses will dominate CYL4. I'm really not so sure.
Despite being the most recent game at the time, Fates didn't take any CYL1 slots. Or CYL2, for that matter. Only one Echoes character took a CYL2 slot.
I think at least one fan-favorite character from 3H is a shoo-in, but depending on what old characters get alts this year I still imagine some of the top contenders from CYL3 will take the rest. If Anna remains ignored somehow, I fully expect her to be a winner...although we could get an Anna in 3H and have that Anna win, and then she'd be a 3H winner anyway.
The real thing that will help 3H get in won't be so much its recency but the fact that the 6 most popular characters of each gender will be out of the running.
I think it will depend on close to the CYL 4 votes 3H's release date will be and how good its story is. If it comes out months before and its story is Conquest-level, we might see one character in the top 4 since the hype around the release will have died down. But if the story and characters are interesting and/or it releases close to the votes, it might have enough hype to get several of the top spots.
It also depends on how popular the game is and by extent, how much Nintendo advertise it. Echoes just dropped out of nowhere, which might be why it didn't have as strong a showing in CYL. At the moment, we know absolutely nothing about 3H other than the reveal trailer. I really hope we'll get an update soon and more attention from Nintendo during the year if it does come before 2020 rolls around.
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11 minutes ago, Alexmender said:
It's not like I expected Eirika to win this time but it surprises me that Anna didn't either. Oh well, hopefully she'll win in CYL5 because it's certain CYL4 is going to be Three Houses fest
if it releases this yearI'll take a free Alm or Micaiah (depends on how far into RD she is) unless Camilla/Eliwood ends up as the next f2p goddess/god, not that I care about such things when I have enough 5* units to cover everything but those tend to be on the OP side of the spectrum.
SpoilerWhen you mean "Depending on how far in RD she is", do you mean when you first get Micaiah in RD? Or which of her classes her CYL version will be based?
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While I'm usually someone who tends to be wary of leaks, the chance of these ones to be false are really slim. I went to check the CSS of page and looked up the url for the pictures and it indeed looks like the Alm and Micaiah are the winners with Eliwood and Camilla coming second.
I'm really shocked that Camilla actually dropped in standing. I was actually afraid that Micaiah might lose her place to Robin since she's not from a recent FE game, but she somehow managed to beat instead Camilla. S
o when are we getting the 6th Micaiah alts IS?On the Man's side, I'm happy for Alm and Eliwood, since they were both a bit wanting in more representation and they'll be able to join the other lords of their games as Brave heroes. It is a shame that Marth failed to get in the top 2 yet again, but at least we have his legendary version, which is close enough to a Brave version in my book.
Considering I decided to go all out for Micaiah this year instead of just choosing a different unit each day, I'm quite happy with those results. Never really saved orbs for CYL, but I'll definitely be saving all the orbs we get until the CYL banner comes around this year to see how many copies of Micaiah I can pull.
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Spent the 48 orbs I had plus the 9 orbs from the MHB and managed to snag one 5*, who was thankfully Duma. Shame that he's -Atk, but at least he's +def and his weapon kind of makes up for it. I'll definitely put him on my defense team and bless a couple of units to make def losses less painful in Anima seasons.
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14 minutes ago, Icelerate said:
Desperation doesn't work with Dawn Suzu because of Hardy bearing effect within the tome. Pretty sure Micaiah with enough drive atk support and default kit should be able to take them out.
The moment I saw you had quoted me I remembered all the Festival in Hoshido units have Hardy Bearing built-in. I forget about it because it's so useless most of the time (and even detrimental, like right now). I have a +atk regular Micaiah at +1, but she has a mostly defensive build to bait Rein and Lyn. But, I can probably give my HiF!Micaiah enough Atk by using Laevatain's Atk/Def Link and using Atk/Res Bond.
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Don't have a lot of orbs after the Laguz banner, but I'll probably try spending the few I do have sniping colorless orbs. Getting Duma would be the best result to make Def loss in AR less painful, but after wishing I could move my Tactics Room in AR, I wouldn't mind getting Loki and considering my current S!Linde is -Spd, getting any other copy to fix her IVs with the upcoming merge change would be great. Might also chance a green orb for FiH!Elincia
Kind of worried about potential Duma spam defense teams since dealing with multiple instance of Upheaval sounds like a pain. Might have to give the Brash Assault/Desperation combo to FiH!Micaiah to allow her to double potential DC Dumas.
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32 minutes ago, Etheus said:
Fair enough. But by the same token, if even one such weapon is buffed via WR, it establishes a precedent that a DC weapon is a Gen 1 weapon, and thus all such weapons are eligible for the buff, even if said character doesn't need it. It isn't a rule, but it is a shaky foundation.
Fair enough on not needing a new currency. Perhaps this should just require arena medals and crystals.
There is no precedent for stats to work or to not work in such a way. BST doesn't include skills (other than Duel skills). The Ascension stat buff isn't a skill, but rather a flat bonus to BST meant explicitly to help arena scoring potential while slightly improving viability.
With regards to how stats work in Heroes , every unit has a base stat total and growth rates. The default base stat total is 47 and growth rate total 255%, but there are modifiers depending on the unit's type :
SpoilerSo if you wanted to bring a Gen 1 infantry ranged unit like Robin or Odin in line with Gen 2, you'd have to do the following calculations :
BST = 47(Default) - 3(Ranged) + 1(Gen 2) = 45 instead of their original 44
Growth Rates Total = 255%(Default) -15%(Ranged) +10%(Gen 2) - 5%(Gen2 Ranged) = 245% instead of their original 240%The results would be similar for melee cavalry units like Xander and Camus :
BST = 47(Default) -1(Cavalry) + 1(Gen 2) - 1(Gen2 Cavalry) = 46 unchanged from their original BST
Growth Rates total = 255%(Default) - 5%(Cavalry) + 10%(Gen2) -5%(Gen 2 Cavalry) = 255% instead of the original 250%As for the idea of buffing older units, I don't think just giving them unique skills will completely fix one major problem with older units : minus a specific few units, they're terrible for Skill Inheritance. Even with a unique Skill, Raigh would still be a dud pull for anyone who doesn't want to build him. If you instead brought his BST in line with Gen 2, gave him a personal weapon and better inheritable skill, that would both make him better as a unit and increase his utility as skill fodder.
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While I'm not too fond of Camilla, it's no surprise that she's number 1 at this point. This is the third time around the block for CYL and she ended up in 4th and 3rd places in the 2 previous rounds. She was bound to win it at some point and if it's not this year, it would have been next year.
As for the alts, I think people overestimate how much CYL results impact how much alts you get. Celica, who has actually won CYL only has her Fallen and Brave all, not a single seasonal one. Nino, who placed 39th and 12th overall, only has her flying alt version. Meanwhile, Kagero, who placed 86th and 90th overall got two seasonal alts this year.
Even if we look at Lyn, who won the first CYL for women, she only has 2 seasonal alts, the other 2 being her Brave version, which happened because of the community and her Legendary version, which isn't all that surprising.
Camilla is just a strange outlier since, for some reason, despite not being the most popular in both previous rounds, she managed to get 4 seasonal alts plus a themed alt. My guess is that the devs have a Fates bias (which is entirely possible since I heard the current game director for FEH was the game director for Fates) and Camilla is the Fates character that got the most votes in both rounds of CYL. Plus, most gacha games rely on waifus to sell, so that probably contributes to her being picked over say, Leo or Takumi. So I don't think that Camilla's placement will necessarily influence who gets seasonal alts or not since CYL results didn't help Ike, Alm or even Lucina (who only has one seasonal alt) get seasonal variants.
As for the argument that Camilla voters are selfish since they stop characters that aren't in the game from getting in, the only characters that aren't playable in the top 10 of both polls are Lif and Bruno, two enemy only FEH OCs. Add that most people vote for their favorite characters no matter whether they're in the game or not in CYL since they want their favorite character to get a powerful Brave alt they can get for free. And as far as the far-fetched/brave redux of this year is concerned, voting for Camilla in no way impacts who's gonna show up there.
At the end of the day, the name of this event is "Choose Your Legends" not "Choose my favorite character because they aren't in the game yet, not your favorite character since I don't like them and they already have 12 alts". Vote for who you want to win and live with the results. It's a shame if your character doesn't make the cut, but that's something that happens in popularity contests.
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8 minutes ago, Water Mage said:
So...what is a good place for grinding? I’m in the second fight with Carmilla and she’s kicking my ass. She keeps spamming her Noble Phantasm with the of that vampirism ability.
Sucks that I don’t have a particularly strong Caster.
Grinding in this game is not simple since you'll need to grind in various places depending on what you need. The Daily Quests in Chaldea Gate offer options to grind EXP (Ember Gathering), Ascension Materials (Class Training Grounds) and QP (Treasure Vault). As far as ascension materials are concerned, the Training Grounds are the best place to grind for Gem, Pieces and Monuments, but you often grind other materials from certain Free Quests nodes that appear after you beat certain story quests. I do have to mention that especially for the EXP and QP quests, the Expert level are the most efficient to grind, but you might have trouble doing them currently since you're team is so weak unless you use a support SSR servant to clear them for you. The higher difficulties in the training grounds can also be difficult for beginners, but the Novice and Intermediate difficulties are at least useful to grind for regular gems and pieces.
I use this spreadsheet to know what place is the best to grind specific materials, but it does mention the name of later singularities, even some that are currently JP only if you look in the JP tabs of the spreadsheet. If you really don't want to get spoiled anything, you could list the units you want to level up and what materials you need to level them up and I could look up if there's a way for you to grind them.
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I do singles roll on the Story gacha from time to time just to see if I get lucky. I managed to snag a Gorgon that way and at the very least, it will actually give me a chance of getting more copies of Bedivire or Jaguar Warrior.
Though I can understand why people usually say to keep your quarz for rate up banners. In NA, we can know in advance the banners for the next two years, so if you want a specific story locked servant, it's probably better to save your quartz for those specific rate ups since even you roll a gold servant in the story gacha, it's not guaranteed to be a story-locked servant.
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IS announcing a RD banner back in November, my love of the franchise and hope that IS might surprise me with interesting changes for the anniversary are what keep me playing currently.
But I've been considering stopping more and more in the last few months. If I'm unimpressed with whatever updates we get during and in the few months after the anniversary, I might just drop the game for good.
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9 minutes ago, eclipse said:
Those who are unhappy and buy orbs should not purchase anything during this banner's run. I think that will send a stronger message to IS. . .assuming enough people do this
I think that's very likely. Powecreep is a thing, but I'd rather see new characters as the powercreep (like the laguz).
That's personally what I've been doing the end of 2017. The only time I spent money on this game since then was for the Orb deal with a Black Knight copy, the Hoshidan Festival banner and the Laguz banner.
I do feel like the laguz banner introduced somethings that might end up be frustrating to play against, but having those things tied to units I like and wanted kind of lessen the impact at the moment. The fact that I'm doing better in AR ever since I invested in my Micaiah and HF!Micaiah is also helping me feel not as hopeless as I was with this game (since I'm actually using units I like while still being able to perform decently enough.), though I fear that may fade if the next year follows in this one's trail.
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1 minute ago, Othin said:
That does seem like the most logical conclusion.
That said: even if a banner makes a lot of money for them, if it generates a lot of frustration among the players, it can hurt Heroes in the long run. Driving off players who aren't interested, getting public backlash that makes Heroes look bad, and building up frustrations so that there will be an even bigger response the next time they release a banner with the similar issues.
I want Heroes to be around for as long as it can be, but it seems they keep throwing away long-term sustainability in favor of quick cash. It's unfortunate, and I hope enough of a response can get their attention about how much of an issue it is.
That's the definite impression I'm getting. A lot of FEH recent decisions, be it in terms of units, skills and game modes, definitely look like they're fueled by short term greed. A lot of people seems to be holding on hope that this anniversary's gonna bring some massive changes that will show a change in direction by IS, but I'm personally not holding my breath for that. I think it's entirely possible the game will see a drop in its player base if there's nothing to turn things around in the next few months.
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Thanks for the link to all those guides. That helped me understand a lot of stuff better.
And I guess I'll wait for Luna to get stronger before trying those again. I managed to do Cherie's first one pretty easily, but Luna's is on a whole other level.
I've definitely been neglecting Soldier levels. Good to know that Aniki's gym is the best place to use extra Stamina since I'd bee using it to sweep Time Rift levels mostly. And it's interesting to know that SR gear is better for the average played than SSR due to how expensive the later is to upgrade. I'll definitely keep that in mind.