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I thought her case on jb was good at first, so I was suspicious but the Gp's reasons for not voting as well as the whole leaving out key parts (SB already explained why it was key) made me put him back on null.
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##vote green poet
while I actually think her case is okay, the way she's going about it is weird, prims bought up the fact that she didn't actually vote jb despite having a case on him for a while and when I asked her about it this was her response,
"hmm, I was planning on talking it over with greencaps again before voting. he's also on board with a JB lynch but we're asking around to collect accounts on who's allegedly talked with JB first, and what JB's told them"
I feel like this is basically an excuse to make sure people think the Lynch is good so she is safe, she had a pretty substantive *(well for d1 IMO) case already, not sure why she couldn't just vote then, also she asks here
"would you be on board with a JB lynch? and/or who else do you think is scum?"
Which again feels like trying to see if she can get a jb Lynch to be safe, feel like town would have just asked for my thoughts on jb, not immediately ask if I want to Lynch them
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I am very confused, snike told me he wanted an ice Lynch not a michelarr Lynch?
Also did sb just admit it or am I dumb
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not yet, was planning to two weeks ago but had to drive and obviously i didn't do it. Should be able to do it winter break maybe when I can get visit friends for a longer period of time?
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It's cool, probably couldn't say much myself since I was scum anyway lol
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2 minutes ago, Refa said:
Was it a good nap?
Anyways, I'd be interested in seeing the Mason and Graveyard QT's.
graveyard didn't get one I think. never recieved it
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hmm I feel like being scum would have been more fun for me if it hadn't came down to basically POV, refa had to save my ass a ton and I felt bad because he was doing most of the work lol
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it's not totally refa's fault, should've just tried to think about it myself instead of just 100% going with it, realized we might have been able to get faerie lynched (because regardless if I was town or scum, the way he described his role made no sense to me and I figured we might be able to pull off a lynch based on why would this role be a thing or something like that)
nice job refa though! I thought once marth was confirmed town we were never going to win but you did it!
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I-I don't want to die guys :( but i must atone for my crimes
##unvote
##vote Junko
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N1 was on you proto, unless there's a role which prevents me from seeing who visited you, no one targeted you.
Woops about the aestetic thing, I'm dumb
Looking at proto points fk has to be scum since scenario 1 is the only one that makes sense since I know I'm town so ##vote faerie knight
im going to look for associatives later but I'm at school right now so can only posted to tell n1 results
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I'm a watcher, what's confusing me is that my role didn't work last night, I targeted faerie knight, the only thing I can think of is that GP would have to target FK for my role to be blocked but that would mean she has an action? I don't really see how scum can have two roleblockers. Basically I'm really confused right now...
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what makes you think FK isn't town?
The reason why i'd go bartizio over the rest of "ambigious" people who i'd call GP, Refa, Mack, Pika Pika, Proto, and Bartizio is that from POV he looks the least townie to me, his D2 has felt super passive and while his D1 reads post on everyone was good that's what appears townie to me while the rest of his content appears mostly null. Refa talking about the townslip at the end of D1 just before the lynch I have no idea why he'd do as scum. I already explained what I thought of everyone else (and to add onto that, i don't get why scum mack would claim now as well as GP when there was no need to).
One thing i'm confused about though, is that assuming i'm scum, asking to get persuaded as scum would be ridiculously dumb since i've basically lost my voting power which is extremely important for scum?
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My theory is that people with characters with "blue" or "green weapons" are town since those seem to be "good colors" while those with red colors are scum since mafia are typically associated with red
not gonna lie, pretty annoyed that people want to lynch me today when we'll have a result on me by day 3 and I don't want to waste today lynching town that'll be known by D3 because scum kill will result in 2 down dead and D3 would just be a confirmation of my alignment (FK getting his results blocked would make no sense since hooker blocks actions, not results! and it's pretty likely town has a protective role to cover FK), feel like it'd be better to lynch someone with more ambiguity now instead of later (i'd probably go with bartizio I guess?, proto I think would be okay too since a lot of issues with him seem to come down to rolespec and if we're gonna play that game I'd rather get it over with now instead of MYLO or LYLO)
but yeah lynching me today is dumb
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hmm okay yeah went back and looked at the elie thing and feel much better now, to clarify the "defend himself part" faerie knight was writing a few paragraphs worth of stuff everytime he defended himself and with how much effort he was putting in it came to me as frustrated town more than scum? Although there's a ton of stuff that outweighs that feeling at this point
What I meant to say refa was that although your michelaar vote was nothing too notable and thus may have looked like a bus, the commitment to the townslip made me think you were town and that you weren't bussing originally and used the townslip to get off and then promptly forget about it
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if GP is an ascetic wouldn't elie's actions fail and thus it might not count as visting GP?
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welp my reads outside of michelarr are terrible
I'm not even sure if there was a bus on the Michelarr wagon at this point. As you pointed out BBM, GP's interactions with michelaar would be really weird as scum and for Bartizio while his original michelarr vote wasn't the best, he made a post later where he committed to michelarr when he could have switched to pika quite easily. If there was a bus vote I'd probably lean towards Bartizio pretty much for the same reason you'd lean towards me BBM :P but overall honestly think there might have not been a bus because GP's interactions don't make sense as scum unless she really wants her fellow scum to die heh and I don't get why Bartizio scum would continue the bus when it would have been really easy to switch to the counter wagon (unless both are scum but I really don't think that's true).
Everyone in this game has something that gives me a pause, I agree FK looks the worst to me if we go off his broader actions (assuming BBM's persuade theory) but I don't see why as scum he'd put that much effort into defending himself and I feel his FOS towards elie seems town reactionary as it pretty much escalates the debate when I feel like scum would want elie to shut up.
IDK why Refa would want to commit to the townslip as scum so much and I thought his defense against GP was pretty good although the original M
Mack's tone seems really genuine and the only thing I can think of that he's done that MIGHT be scummy is his decision to keep his vote on elie at day1 (if he voted pika wouldn't that have resulted in a no lynch and make Mack and Michelarr look really bad?) but this is a what if so it doesn't mean much.
I'm okay with a FK lynch today since I think some of the reasoning against him is good even if I have some strong doubts and everyone else I honestly don't know because I can't find any actual scum intent in anything they did.
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Hmm does anyone have a counterpoint to FK not getting refa hammered (pretty sure the persuader is scum, town persuader would've claimed to clear up some confusion IMO), Only thing I can think of is that FK might have been nervous since town might be able to infer that something was weird (assuming refa's town and FK's scum) and thus FK would likely be lynched and 2 dead scum so early would be really bad so he didn't make the vote. Seems like a stretch to me though
one weird thing I notice is that proto I think has said twice now that he "finds refa scummier" but then votes for elie anyway because "he's not active, what could this be"? which seems pretty flimsy especially since i'm pretty sure some still prefer refa. I do like Marth's point about Proto's case on refa. I get that feeling he's just sorta going with the flow? This probably only matters with flips though >_>
Otherwise thoughts are generally the exact same as before,
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Welp I am dumb guess I haven't improved at mafia as much as I thought I did :(
Guess I'll test my vote on elieson then although 99% this won't work lol
##unvote
##vote elieson
Don't have any reads at this point, although haven't read most of today's posts cuz school hope I find something later but not confident tbh
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Yeah i'm waiting for elie and marth to come back at this point, feel like i'm not getting much out of the active plaers right now,
Reread GP and her tone seems too didactic against michelarr to make me think they're buddies and if michelarr is new (although I guess he claimed to have experience) it seems weird that'd she just lay it on more and more. One thing that bothers me though is her refa case where she says he abandoned his townslip when that's blatantly not true, he talks about it in his last post on D1 and the post before that. The interactions outweight that from me though. Think refa himself is probably town precisely because he did the opposite of what Green Poet said he did, kept bringing it up and never abandoned it. I think falling for the townslip was gullible but it's not scummy which is really important distinction.
@Refa I don't see why not? I can't see why a townie wouldn't reveal their opinion and if it marth's scum meta generally to bus a lot perhaps he wanted to avoid making that obvious if he is scum. Although don't really want to get into "he could have" type of things since I feel like we'd just be running in circles
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oh hey BBM made the possibilities with regards to the persuade I was thinking of clearer
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okay like skimming through d2, the first thing I notice immediately is that a lot of the refa cases seem to just come down to difference in opinion in that he thought the townslip was legit (which I disagreed with personally but that's okay) while others disagree that it wasn't 100% legit and I don't really see how this makes him scum? It's bad play but not necessarily scum play, I don't really see it.
I have no idea wtf is going on with the persuade though, just not really sure what to think? there a lot of possibilities in my head right now
green poet stuff i'm not really understanding from a first read i'll reread her D1 later which might help me better understand refa's GP case and her defense
@Mackc2 No as in it literally happened just a few minutes ago, not at the start of day 2 so boron/sunwoo didn't mess up and that's why the phase pause happened I think
Still think Marth is scum, feel even worse now due to the flip and no opinion before "deadline" and the justification makes no sense since it pretty much says we'd have to assume that he somehow felt the same about michelarr as the rest of us so therefore he didn't have to give his opinion it which is ??? because i don't see why all of us would assume that.
I'd vote him but uh... yeah
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I just got told saying my vote is stuck on refa for all of day 2, think this is called a persuade?
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