Malexis Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Well, then if manslaughter is accidentally killing somebody, would giving DP to the wrong person be an accident, thus it being manslaughter, which according to you is not murder, so there for a car wreck is the same thing as DP mishaps. Study the law. Accidentally killing someone is manslaughter. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Murder requires intent. 1.) person, who knows that drunk driving can cause accidents, gets drunk and decides to drive. 2.) in his drunken state, drunk driver invades the other lane and crashes head-first into another car 3.) people in other car die. get my point? negligence isn't an excuse to killing people in a car accident. you know what can happen in you're not careful while driving. and while it may not be quite murder, there is a really nice legal term called "involuntary manslaughter" which, if you ask me, is quite as bad as murder. you know that you can kill people with your actions, yet you still go through them. but this is slightly off-topic, so i'll stop now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) The legal system doesn't do squat to prevent car accidents in a substantive way, and no amount of legal reform could change that. lol eneeway Edited January 18, 2009 by Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Can we please use another example other than cars TT_TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Well, then if manslaughter is accidentally killing somebody, would giving DP to the wrong person be an accident, thus it being manslaughter, which according to you is not murder, so there for a car wreck is the same thing as DP mishaps. Study the law. Accidentally killing someone is manslaughter. <_< I know, that is exactly what I said. HE said car wrecks have nothing to do with giving the wrong person the DP and that it was a shitty comparison, and I stated it is the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) 1.) person, who knows that drunk driving can cause accidents, gets drunk and decides to drive.2.) in his drunken state, drunk driver invades the other lane and crashes head-first into another car 3.) people in other car die. get my point? negligence isn't an excuse to killing people in a car accident. you know what can happen in you're not careful while driving. and while it may not be quite murder, there is a really nice legal term called "involuntary manslaughter" which, if you ask me, is quite as bad as murder. you know that you can kill people with your actions, yet you still go through them. but this is slightly off-topic, so i'll stop now. Well I do agree the defendant must be accountable for his actions. They must recieve some form of punishment to not give excuse for other people to behave in a threatening manner. For manslaugther. Edited January 18, 2009 by Judge Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 The legal system doesn't do squat to prevent car accidents in a substantive way, and no amount of legal reform could change that. lol eneeway If the legal system forced everybody to start walking everywhere would that not prevent car accidents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 As a reactive body I doubt the Supreme Court, the only Court with anything like enough power to do something like that decided a case like that, no, and the Supreme Court is a reactive body so I don't know how they would ever get to decide on it, Congress would have to do something like that probably but come on, really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 why did we even start talking about cars anyways? this thread was about capital punishment, not about reckless driving. anyways, capital punishment is adequate in certain situations. of course, you're not going to be killing off people who didn't pay their taxes or something. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) If the legal system forced everybody to start walking everywhere would that not prevent car accidents? OMG! WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DAM CARS! O_O Use another bloody example fory crying out loud. Edited January 18, 2009 by Judge Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Once again, as far as costs, it costs more to execute than to put away for life. I call bullshit, prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malexis Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 why did we even start talking about cars anyways?this thread was about capital punishment, not about reckless driving. anyways, capital punishment is adequate in certain situations. of course, you're not going to be killing off people who didn't pay their taxes or something. :o 'Course not, if you do, you'll never get those taxes! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 anyways, capital punishment is adequate in certain situations. of course, you're not going to be killing off people who didn't pay their taxes or something.:o I admit for like mass murderers, serial rapists, etc, I wouldn't be uncomfortable with them being executed, but the tough part is people who don't deserve death are going to get lumped in with them. I think that is unnecessary and almost unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noremaC Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I call bullshit, prove it. It does, not the killing though, the endless appeals and using the court makes it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) I call bullshit, prove it. Take it easy fella, I'm not insulting anybody. I'll pull something up if you want. Noremac, it's the setting up of executions in other ways that mostly makes it. Edited January 18, 2009 by Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) It does, not the killing though, the endless appeals and using the court makes it more. Yeah, because that's is the case with all people facing the death penalty. OWAITITSNOT This legal system needs a revamp anyways. Edit; Yes, I am asking you to prove it. Like I said. Edited January 18, 2009 by Death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malexis Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Take it easy fella, I'm not insulting anybody. I'll pull something up if you want. From his post, I think he wants you to pull something up. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) OKAY THEN BRB I GUESS 8D Edited January 18, 2009 by Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) Quote, Ultimate Punishment: "In the United States in 2000, the average period between convivtion and execution was eleven and a half years, with lawyers and courts spewing out court briefs and decisions all that time. Public funds pay for almost all of this, since capital offenses are most often commited by the poor whose defenses are wholly maintained at the cost of the state. There is a lot to pay for. (court lawyers, appeal lawyers, prosecutors, cops/investigators, probation officers, shrinks, judges, yadda yadda) Those on death row are most often held in single cells, since a man with nothing to lose doesn't make for a good cell mate. Given all those costs, researchers seem to agree that imposing the death penalty is more expensive that leaving the killer alive. A study published in 2003, which was conducted by the gubernatorial commision in Indiana, concluded that in present values the cost in death penalty cases exceed the total price of life w/o parole by more than one third." 4 pages already woot Edited January 18, 2009 by Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I don't want a quote, I want a s o u r c e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Okay, I'll look for that study. Care to explain why your first impulse is to say life w/o parole costs> death penalty and go as far as to "call bullshit" when somebody implies otherwise in the meantime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) A link to where you copy pasted from would do nicely, for starters. And because my brand of common sense says that more often than not a few appeals will cost less than 50+ years of electric bills, water bills, food, the works. Edited January 18, 2009 by Death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 I generally thought...keeping a prisoner alive would be more expensieve. You have to feed them and stuff. Killing them, will mean less resources are going to be used up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) I didn't copy paste precisely, I typed it up from my own copy. :) You want I should take a picture of the paragraph? Got Adobe? Edited January 18, 2009 by Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) I didn't copy paste precisely, I typed it up from my own copy. :) You want I should take a picture of the paragraph?Got Adobe? Your the first to provide evidence to back up your claim. *claps* EDIT: Hell no way I am reading all that O_o Edited January 18, 2009 by Judge Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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