Nestling Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 But what good is it when Oscar with a Steel Axe doubling is going to kill the enemy anyway? When you're seeing how many triangle attacks you can do in the final chapter. Too bad this isn't Radiant Dawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Changed by VASM :( Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 It may just be me but a playthrough just doesn't seem complete without giving Oscar Bows. Astrid always get's Axes when I use her. Same for Makalov. Kieran get's Swords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 It may just be me but a playthrough just doesn't seem complete without giving Oscar Bows.Astrid always get's Axes when I use her. Same for Makalov. Kieran get's Swords. I thought you retired from playing fire emblem Anywasy give oscar axes, astrid axes makalov lance and kieran sword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykan12 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Too lazy to read through the thread but: Oscar- axes Kieran- lances Astrid- axes Makalov- axes Any other choice is demonstrably inferior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reikken Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Too lazy to read through the thread but:Oscar- axes Kieran- lances Astrid- axes Makalov- axes Any other choice is demonstrably inferior. orly? Kieran with bows certainly has a case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I should mention that I usually find Bows the best for Kieran. Axes are good enough that Lances aren't really necessary in most cases and Bows gives him a good ranged option. That's just my opinion though. Too lazy to read through the thread but:Oscar- axes Kieran- lances Astrid- axes Makalov- axes Any other choice is demonstrably inferior. orly? Kieran with bows certainly has a case. Well, what do we have here? I really would like to see a reason why Lances are so much better than Bows for Kieran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I personally don't think it matters because I'd rather just give him a hand axe.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykan12 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Well, what do we have here? I really would like to see a reason why Lances are so much better than Bows for Kieran. He can't counter with bows. Yes, there exists situations where that won't matter, but sticking to lances, he doesn't have to hit & run away as often, or fear that terrible enemy phase inefficiency that all bow users share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 He can't counter with bows. Yes, there exists situations where that won't matter, but sticking to lances, he doesn't have to hit & run away as often, or fear that terrible enemy phase inefficiency that all bow users share. And Axes don't cover that well enough already? Bows at least open up that opportunity with a better ranged option, and if enemy phase is really looking bad, there's always Canto + trade. The point is, I don't see Lances offering anything that Axes don't already give (Except WT, but that hardly matters by the time he promotes) while Bows give some, if situational, more options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I'd say Kieran is flexible enough to Canto somewhere where someone else can go next to him, trade an axe to the top of his inventory, and lose out on little to nothing. Provided he wants to use a bow to begin with. But I'd still rather have lances for WTA over swordies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Nick Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Don't enemies suffer from a horrid case of suck syndrome, meaning the the big K can easily kill stuff with hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykan12 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) And Axes don't cover that well enough already? Bows at least open up that opportunity with a better ranged option, and if enemy phase is really looking bad, there's always Canto + trade. The point is, I don't see Lances offering anything that Axes don't already give (Except WT, but that hardly matters by the time he promotes) while Bows give some, if situational, more options. Well, bows start at E rank, so they're not even superior to begin with, and even if they get to be, it's that vs javelins we're talking about, so the difference is still rather minimal. Another thing is having lances doesn't simply have WT control advantages... you also get more access to special weapons. Why only be able to use a braxe axe when you can use a brave lance as well? Same applies to killers, laguzslayer type weapons, all of which are finite in this game. Sure, you could say the same for bows, but that only applies once every turn unless you make a situational trade. Edited February 19, 2009 by Vykan12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Don't enemies suffer from a horrid case of suck syndrome, meaning the the big K can easily kill stuff with hand?They don't suck completely. They get two rounded pretty easily, and many chars do end up having doubling problems near endgame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Well, bows start at E rank, so they're not even superior to begin with, and even if they get to be, it's that vs javelins we're talking about, so the difference is still rather minimal. Another thing is having lances doesn't simply have WT control advantages... you also get more access to special weapons. Why only be able to use a braxe axe when you can use a brave lance as well? Same applies to killers, laguzslayer type weapons, all of which are finite in this game. Sure, you could say the same for bows, but that only applies once every turn unless you make a situational trade. You have a point. I suppose it's more a matter of personal preference and playstyle since he already has Axes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reikken Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) Enemies have semi-decent stats. FE9 enemies have decent defenses. Killing with a hand axe is likely not happening unless it's forged. Low power and low hit both. That said, javelin offers a bit better hit on the 1-2 range, but at the cost of a bit lower mt, and it's flat out worse against enemy javelins and hand axes. Iron lance is nice on myrmidons. The problem with bows is that I don't see that range being needed often, especially since he's stuck with phail iron bows for several attacks, and he doesn't really nees to avoid counterattacks. But it does help that soon after he promotes, there are several enemy fliers. Iron bow is his best bet against ravens of ch 18 and is just as good offensively as steel axe against the many wyvern riders of 18, 19, and 20 while possibly allowing him extra canto range. Edited February 19, 2009 by Reikken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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