Shouzou Kaga's dream scenario (FE4)

[VincentASM]

Continued from the true father of Nanna and Delmud thread.

Thanks to elle for providing the information ^^

Links

• Same article on the main site
  
• Post #3931 (salvaged)
  
• Post #4020 (archived)
  
• IS's old FE message board (archived)
  

  http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.intsys.co.jp/game/fireemblem/room/board/disp_part.cgi/*

  
  

Introduction

Using the alias of "goinkyo-san" (literally Mr. Retired), Shouzou Kaga often posted on Intelligent System's now-defunct Fire Emblem message board, to inform others of new Fire Emblem-related news, express his opinions and answer questions asked by fans. Below are summaries of his posts related to his FE4 "dream scenario", which are basically early story ideas for FE4.

Post #4020 I too can't help but be interested (laughs)

Kaga mentions being nervous about posting his "dream scenario". However, there is a reason for this since the original text cannot be taken at face value. Especially as the game was originally going to be split into 3 parts. So they aren't official settings, nor are they based on official settings. They are just mere dreams, he supposes.

In any case, it seems the pairings were divided into various patterns (at least 0, 1 and 2). Pattern (1) includes Ira x Lex and Briggid x Jamka. While, for instance, Adean x Jamka and Ira x Holyn are Pattern (2) pairings.

In Pattern (1), all the female 1st Generation characters survive (or are brought back to life). In Fury and Levin's case, after some time passes, they are brought back to life by the power of Holsety.

Yurius was also going to return to his original state at the end (through the power of Yuria's love). Sadly only a few of the 1st Generation male characters survived. The third part was going to be a story about the parents and children reuniting. Those who weren't Sigurd's regular subordinates would not make a triumphant return (but are subjugated).

Post #3931 One's Dream (long read)

Whilst rearranging his hard drive, Kaga noticed a large amount of mysterious files, which turned out to be early story ideas. Some of which he decided to shared because they seemed interesting. It appears many of them are "What if..." scenarios and shouldn't be taken too seriously. Kaga stressed that "what happened afterwards" should be true for any player.

Leen (1)

Sylvia (aged 18) escaped to a monastery at Darna, as per Claude's recommendation. After leaving Leen behind, she left and wandered around in search of Claude. Three years later, she reunited with Claude, but he had tragically changed. Sylvia became his eyes and his limbs, watching the changing times and keeping an eye on their children. As for Corple, he was born when Sylvia was 23 years old. Afterwards, Leen married Aless and become the Queen of Agustria, while Corple became the head of Edda. Two years later, they finally reunited with Sylvia (aged 38). However, Claude perished after his role ended. Later, his name was carved into the relief at the altar of the 26 saints.

Nanna (0)

The pregnant Lachesis (19) entrusted Delmud to Oifey and returned to her parent's home in North Thracia to protect Eltshan's wife and son. She received a cold welcome from Eltshan's wife (who despised Sigurd and Lachesis) and so left the Demon Blade Mistolteen in her hands, before leaving. Afterwards, the Empire's eyes were concentrated at Tirnanogue, so Lachesis instead escaped to Fin's location. She gave birth to Nanna in the following year and raised her together with Fin. When Nanna was 8 years old, Lachesis wished to reunite with Delmud at Tirnanogue. Despite Fin's strong warning, Lachesis made her decision and afterwards there was no news of her.

Later, Agustria was conquered and the prison camp at Silvail was liberated. Many children were held here, by order of the Loputo Sect, but they were cared for by a woman who they adored like their own mother (she had also been taken prisoner by the empire). As the commander of Agustria's liberation army, Delmud reunited with his mother here. Lachesis briefly noticed it at a glance, perhaps he reminded her of Beowolf? Afterwards, Lachesis also happily reunited with Nanna and Aless.

Sety (1)

He was left with Queen Rahna. Fury believed Levin's promise that he would return alive from the Battle of Barhara and so escaped to Silesia. Half a year later, Silesia was attacked by the imperial army and Fury prepared to leave to fight, but she was persuaded by Rahna to escape to Thove instead. Rahna was killed by the imperial troops to safeguard her citizens. Later, Emperor Alvis executed the soldier who killed her, as well as the commanding officer, and held a funeral for her. Many months later, after he was thought to have died, Levin returned. For Fury, his return was like a dream come true. For some reason, Levin stayed with Fury for five years and Fee was born the year after his return. The next year, he proclaimed that he would be traveling and disappeared (at the time, Sety was 7 years old and Fee was 4 years old).

After that he would leave for half a year to two years at a time, wandering aimlessly, before returning home for a few days to live with Fury and then leave again. The last time he left home was when Sety was 13 years old and Fee was 10 years old. Two years after that, Fury fell dangerously ill and Sety left home in search of his father. Although Fee desperately tried to nurse her mother, half a year later, Fury departed from the living world. Fee sent a letter to Sety to inform of their mother's death and Sety continued traveling to tell Levin. When Fee decided to journey out herself, it had been four years since she last saw her father (now she was 14 years old). During her travel, she has a fateful encounter with Arthur, who was of a similar age as herself, but of course neither of them realised the significance of their meeting.

Arthur (1)

Like Sety, he was entrusted to Queen Rahna's care. His father, Azel, wanted to stop Tiltyu from fighting in the war using any means necessary, since Tiltyu intended to persuade her father Leptor all by herself. Leptor was convinced that his beloved Tiltyu had been taken hostage by Sigurd. After the battle with her father, Tiltyu was both mentally and physically exhausted and was left in a terribly weakened state. The day before their triumphant return, Sigurd commanded Azel to go to Silesia, to show Tiltyu her child's face in hopes of helping her recover. Azel felt bad, but since he loved Tiltyu he agreed to leave the battlefield. As the Imperial Army was preparing to attack, Rahna invited the two of them to escape to her land, and also so that Tiltyu would recover faster. Azel wished to protect Rahna's trust (in helping those who were powerless) and decided to live with the citizens.

Two years later, Tiltyu recovered from her illness and gave birth to a lovely daughter. By then, Grandbell's conquest of the continent was over and at long last the world was settling down. Emperor Alvis aimed to construct a world where there was equality and no discrimination and he swiftly executed measures such as releasing slaves, banishing corrupt aristocrats and arresting vile merchants, which led to overwhelming support from his people. With the way things were going, Azel's standpoint in organising rebellion was no longer welcome. Instead, he became viewed as a criminal by the villagers (at the time, the involvement clause was enacted and it was possible for a whole village to be punished for aiding a criminal. Things were different in Fury's homeland however).

Azel was troubled. Was this what he had been fighting for? If this was really the ideal world then why would he consider preventing his brother from realising his ideals? No, that can't be right. Father Claude used to say that if the objective is righteous but the means are wrong, failure will most certainly be the result. My brother is wrong. He's definitely wrong!! Azel made a resolve to travel to Barhara. He would speak with his brother and everything would become clear, as it would be left to the peoples' choice. He thought this was the best way to deal with his brother. Tiltyu clung onto him crying. If he went then he would surely die. However Azel's decision had been made and he left Tiltyu and their two children to begin his journey. His decision wasn't something you could easily mark as right or wrong.

At this time, Alvis was plagued by nightmares every night, tormented by his loneliness. If he and Azel reunited, his heart would have been moved. However Manfroy wouldn't allow something like that to happen. As soon as he appeared at the palace, Azel was petrified using magic and sent to a deep sleep that he would not awaken from for a long time. When he finally awoke, it would be ten years later, when Yuria had received the power of Narga and was able to use advanced magic to undo his petrification at the recently unearthed secret basement underneath the royal palace. Azel whose appearance was as youthful as when he was 28 years old came face to face with Arthur and Tiltyu and surprised the two of them. There had also been another miracle, where Claude had exchanged his own life to resurrect Tiltyu (27 years old at the time) who had been carefully buried in an icebox at Silesia by her brother, Blume (after this, the Valkyrie Staff never worked again).

As well returning to life, so did their memories and they lived happily at Silesia as they had desired. Moving backwards a little. Tiltyu had remained at Silesia, spending her time worrying about Azel's safety and waiting for his return, although of course she wouldn't hear from him. As her tears subsided, a group of imperial soldiers launched an attack on their hideout. Apparently, the soldiers had been informed by villagers who feared they would bring disaster. Arthur who was 7 years old was playing at the riverside and was safe from the attack, but his 4 year old sister Tinny and his mother were kidnapped, and afterwards Arthur lived with a kind old woman in the neighbouring village and grew up in Silesia. (Levin/Holsety was watching over him in the shadows.) He was visited by a traveling merchant (who was really Levin) and learnt various things from him. Mysterious magic was taught to him in this manner. When he was 16, he heard from some merchants that his mother had passed away and his sister was at Manster and so Arthur decided to leave on a journey.

Lester (2)

Sigurd pleaded especially to Adean to care for the children at Isaac. (Adean herself had two children of her own to look after.) While departing for Zaxon, Queen Rahna strongly urged the mothers and children to remain at Silesia, but if Sigurd was to be defeated, Grandbell would try to defeat the children of the rebels and Silesia would be engulfed in war and so they refused. (For Levin, and Tiltyu and Azel's children, Grandbell wouldn't consider them as interferences and so they alone were entrusted to Rahna.) The others who went to Isaac with Celice included Adean and Jamka's son Lester, Lachesis and Beowolf's son Delmud, as well as Ira and Lex's twins Skasaher and Lakche. There were also Shanan and Oifey. Claude disagreed with these arrangements, but Sylvia stubbornly didn't want to leave Claude's side and Sigurd allowed their child (a girl named Leen) to go with Sylvia and Claude so the two could leave together. (So the baby Leen wasn't taken in by Adean.)

Adean worked busily as a mother for the six children (seven, after Lana was born during the following year) and taught them to read and write at the monastery at Tirnanogue. The villagers respected Prince Shanan, who would become their next king, and Adean did not spare their co-operation as much as possible. Oifey and Shanan were taught swordsmanship from the elderly swordfighters. As they were taught the way of the Isaacian royal family's swordsmanship, the two's capability (especially Shanan's) steadily increased and soon far exceeded their elders by several years. Time flowed for sixteen years and the children grew up wonderfully, wrapped in Adean's kindliness. Later, after requesting from Lester, Adean left for Verdane and lived an isolated life. At her tombstone was carved the words "Wife of the Heroic King Jamka".

Edited September 16, 2009 by VincentASM

[TheEnd]

私も気になってしかたないです(笑)

"I, too, can't help but be interested. (laugh)"

(ラケシスは一目で気づいたらしい。ベオの面影?)

"(It seems Lachesis noticed it at a glance. Maybe he reminded her of Beo?)"

フィーが旅立つのは最後に父を見た日から4年後(14才)、途中兄と同い年のアーサーと運命的な出会いをするが、もちろん二人とも気づかない。

"Fee started her trip 4 years after last seeing her father (14 years old). During her travel, she has a fateful encounter with the similarly-aged [i mean having the same age] Arthur, but of course neither of them notices it [the signficance of their meeting]."

I'll leave the Claude one for later/let Ace take care of it, since I don't have many ideas about how to translate the second part.

[skadabra65]

The Azel section shall settle years of debate.

[TheEnd]

The Azel section shall settle years of debate.

Or will it?

Below are summaries of his posts related to his [Kaga's] FE4 "dream scenario", which are basically early story ideas for FE4.

[VincentASM]

Epic bump; I've finally finished my sort-of-crappy translations.

*Removed, see the first post*

いや違う。目的は正しくともその手段が間違っていればいずれ必ず

破綻が来るとクロード司祭は言われていた。

As well as proof-reading and suggestions for improvements. My Japanese knowledge is almost non-existent, so feel free to slaughter it (if I wasn't so lazy, I'd learn some basic Japanese grammar and sentence structure). This applies to my first post as well.

Edited September 16, 2009 by VincentASM

[TheEnd]

What I need help with:

いや違う。目的は正しくともその手段が間違っていればいずれ必ず

破綻が来るとクロード司祭は言われていた。

No, wrong. Bishop Claude used to say that if the objective is righteous but the means are wrong, failure will certainly be the result.

*reads the rest*

_{I'll resume that translation on Monday or something.}

Edited September 5, 2009 by TheEnd

[Sasori]

I don't really like the azel part reviving dead characters is kinda cheesy it would be better if Tiltyu just died ah well this is probably not cannon anway.

[TheEnd]

I don't really like the azel part reviving dead characters is kinda cheesy it would be better if Tiltyu just died ah well this is probably not cannon anway.

Claude revives other characters, not Azel.

Just, you know, like he does in the actual game.

Edited September 5, 2009 by TheEnd

[Sasori]

Sorry I was a bit unclear i ment the whole azel/tiltyu/other characters story not that azel revived tiltyu my bad.

Edited September 5, 2009 by Sasori

[Kriemhild]

Does the Family Tree need any changes then?

[Eltoshen]

Does the Family Tree need any changes then?

Well, this is unofficial.

[VincentASM]

I don't think anything needs changing, unless you mean canon-ising the 1st gen pairings. I don't think those should be changed though.

Also, I'd say it's official, but no longer canon. Most of it makes sense story-wise, while a few elements were reused in FE5, like petrifying magic and a Shaman girl who undoes the magic.

[Kriemhild]

Oh, I see. So, aside from the ones confirmed in FE5, all the other pairings are considered to be entirely the player's choice with no canon pairs?

[Rodykitty]

We pseudo-canonized Brigit x Noish based on the JP commercial. >_>

[Sasori]

Will the guy reveal any more stories.

[VincentASM]

Probably not, since Kaga left Intelligent Systems several years ago.

There could be some more details hidden in the past though.

[Sasori]

But wasn't he already retired when he revealed these story's?

[VincentASM]

No, I don't think so. I believe his last important post (#4020) was during April 1999, which is before FE5's release date September 1999.

I'm not 100% sure about that date though. However, if you look through most of the message board, you'll find it hasn't even been a whole year since the message board was added and then dropped.

Page Month

0 July

9 August

18 October

27 October

54 November

80 December

96 January

123 March

134 April

Somewhere near the middle, BS FE was first broadcasted and a bit later FE5 was just announced

Edited September 16, 2009 by VincentASM