Prince Levin Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 The green Cavalier, ladies man Alec vs the Red Cavalier, dutiful Noish. Alec has a personality, so he wins first question for me. From his teasing of Ardan to his hitting on Sylvia you get a feel for who he is. Superior unit, Noish. He is basically a Lex who uses swords and lances. Obviously not quite as good since his promoted class has lower caps, he doesn't have an A in anything, and he doesn't get a brave weapon (unless you take away Ira or Fin's). Still he is good at weakening units, and is a good tank. Alec as the game goes on will have a harder and harder time taking hits, and even with pursuit will be not be able to do good damage to an enemy. He does have that unique use of being the best person to help recruit Ira. Worth using? Both, you can use everyone, and since they are mounted they won't slow your army down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Tarrasque Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Alec for both. Pursuit >>> Critical. Don't care for Nihil and I personally hate Duel. Neither are worth using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon of Sin Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I prefer Noish, but it's mostly because I sometimes make him father children in second generation. Alec is better due to innate Pursuit, while Noish is on a losing fight with a few others for the Pursuit Ring. Neither are worth using unless you plan to pair them, which I already did with Noish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I dislike using both; they're great at getting themselves killed on their own turn, they can't use any advanced weapons, and they're subpar units altogether. I like using Noish a bit more, though, since he seems to be better at dishing out more damage in the one hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ercdouken Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I like Alec as a character better than Noish. I also find him superior unit too due to pursuit. Neither are worth using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ϲharlie Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I prefer Noish based primarily on appearance. Alec is the better unit, I guess. Two attacks with the strength of a wet noodle is better than one decently powerful attack with the possibility of a critical. Neither are worth using outside of pairings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Noish has more pairing utility than Alec, so I vote for him. However, as Musashi said... Neither are worth using outside of pairings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fia Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I prefer neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Alec is easier to fix than Noish, but both are too bad in the long run to really bother with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxas Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Alec, Alec, and Alec. Pursuit is NEEDED in this game. >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Alec, Alec, and Alec.Pursuit is NEEDED in this game. >_> Too bad Alec doesn't have the STR or weapon ranks to make use of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordsalmon Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I prefer Noishe, but Alec is the superior. Use both because you can. ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bros Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) I like Alec more because he's funny. He's a better unit because of his Pursuit. I don't use either past taking out the initial enemies in the Prologue. Edited June 25, 2009 by luigi bros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNameAtAll Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 They suck. Not voting in this poll for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I love Social Knights, so initially I used the both of them completely. Until my Binary playthrough, I kinda stopped... but I've taken up Noishe. He's alright. I give him the Pursuit Ring if I use him, considering no one else really needs, except for maybe Deu if you're using him. Alec is all but useless as a father, to me. Awareness never helps me, and Pursuit--well, I don't care much about doubling when I never seem to need it >.> Overall, neither are that great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Alec for both. They're both worth using, since you can deploy all of your units in FE4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Alec wins due to pursuit. Noce wins due to pairing utility. As much as I like both of them, if, and only if they are paired, I would consider using them. Other than that, ditto what everyone else says, I bench 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) Alec. Has Pursuit, and Nihil for recruiting Aira. They don't get beyond B level in Sword because they have no holy blood which minor is required to use the silver weapons. They don't get any new skills either upon class change. And this is the reason to even bother to use them... Neither are worth using outside of pairings. Edited June 26, 2009 by Ursula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandbellianPride Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Noish would be BY FAR superior if he had pursuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CassieCinders Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 Voted Alec for all 3, I hate Noish, he's to uptight and holds my other units back, though can become good through boss abuse, I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Noish. He can get lucky with critical, Alec is stuck dealing 3 damage twice after the prologue. Noish is good with the pursuit ring, but I doubt he gets it. 40% def growth is a plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suikofan Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Alec, the superior unit? Lol. Noish is 10* the better father, and arguably the best father for Ayra's kids, and the 2nd best father for Brigid's kids, which automatically makes him worth using. Both of them need one thing to become great combat units. Alec needs the Hero Sword, which means taking it away from Ayra, and that's not going to happen. Even Noish makes arguably better use of the Hero Sword than Alec does, as well as Lachesis on promotion. Noish needs the Pursuit Ring, which means taking it away from...uh...Levin? Once he gets Holsety, he doesn't need it, and the only other characters who might are Jamka(Hero Bow, Killer Bow, Continue/Charge...no, he doesn't need it) and Tiltyu(lol). There is MUCH less competition for the Pursuit Ring than there is for the Hero Sword, which means Noish is more likely to not suck. Without their respective items, they both suck, so it doesn't really matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) Noishe needs the pursuit ring, which means taking it away from Lex, which means get the fuck out pretty boy not a chance in hell Edited June 29, 2009 by Mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suikofan Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Noishe needs the pursuit ring, which means taking it away from Lex, which means get the fuck out pretty boy not a chance in hell Uh...Hero Axe weighs 12 lbs. Lex ain't doubling even with the Pursuit Ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Alec, the superior unit? Lol.Noish is 10* the better father, and arguably the best father for Ayra's kids, and the 2nd best father for Brigid's kids, which automatically makes him worth using. Both of them need one thing to become great combat units. You don't need to even use a character to pair them, so it's pointless to try to say that matters. Also, Lex is the best father for Ayra's kids, not Noish. Alec needs the Hero Sword, which means taking it away from Ayra, and that's not going to happen. Even Noish makes arguably better use of the Hero Sword than Alec does, as well as Lachesis on promotion. Alec needs the Hero Sword? What? Alec can even grab Noish's Steel Sword and >>> Noish. Noish needs the Pursuit Ring, which means taking it away from...uh...Levin? Once he gets Holsety, he doesn't need it, and the only other characters who might are Jamka(Hero Bow, Killer Bow, Continue/Charge...no, he doesn't need it) and Tiltyu(lol). Way to ignore Cuan and Lex, who would both love to double more. Also, trading around the Pursuit ring costs a _lot_ more than trading around the Hero Sword. There is MUCH less competition for the Pursuit Ring than there is for the Hero Sword, which means Noish is more likely to not suck. Without their respective items, they both suck, so it doesn't really matter. Alec doesn't need the Hero Sword, while Noish needs the pursuit ring. Win for Alec. Alec can just grab a Steel Sword and widen the gap between their attack when he doubles, which is very often, especially on lolbandits in the Prolouge and Chapter 1. Nobody cares about Critical because lol7%activationrateatbase. So, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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