Phoenix Wright Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=14822002&ch=4226713&src=news It seems that New York is buying tickets for homeless people to get out of their town. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fei Mao Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) hmm I want to say the mayor wants to increase the value of New York city by moving the homeless away from New York though there's two ways to think this either the mayor wants to save money so he dosen't build have to build homeless shelters or increase the value of New York city. Edited July 30, 2009 by Jason W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 I don't find anything morally objectionable to this, since people aren't forced to leave and are probably receiving better benefits in their new locations than they would in underfunded, overcrowded shelters(social programs in the US are being underfunded atm). If relatives/friends are willing to support them instead, this could work out for both the homeless and NYC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Sounds like a great idea - I don't see any noticeable losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 So it costs NYC $500,000/year to ship these homeless people to various destinations across the globe, but it costs them $36,000/year on support for the homeless. Now, my maths might be a bit rusty, but isn't $500,000 a lot more than $36,000? And given that we are still in the middle of an economic downturn, shouldn't they be saving money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
California Mountain Snake Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 (edited) So it costs NYC $500,000/year to ship these homeless people to various destinations across the globe, but it costs them $36,000/year on support for the homeless. Now, my maths might be a bit rusty, but isn't $500,000 a lot more than $36,000? And given that we are still in the middle of an economic downturn, shouldn't they be saving money? -$500,000 for all homeless people's transportation. -$36,000 per family Support for the homeless is much more expensive. I see nothing wrong with this as long as there's no coercion involved. At least unlike in Japan, they're allowed to come back if they please. Edited August 8, 2009 by California Mountain Snake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I agree with this. It seems like a great idea, they're checking to make sure the people have a place to go to, they're not forcing them, and it's cleaning up the streets at a much less amount of money than what it would normally take to use homeless shelters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted August 14, 2009 Author Share Posted August 14, 2009 So it costs NYC $500,000/year to ship these homeless people to various destinations across the globe, but it costs them $36,000/year on support for the homeless. Now, my maths might be a bit rusty, but isn't $500,000 a lot more than $36,000? And given that we are still in the middle of an economic downturn, shouldn't they be saving money? -$500,000 for all homeless people's transportation. -$36,000 per family Support for the homeless is much more expensive. I see nothing wrong with this as long as there's no coercion involved. At least unlike in Japan, they're allowed to come back if they please. But you don't think it's a problem for other countries? Pouring our homeless into theirs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 So it costs NYC $500,000/year to ship these homeless people to various destinations across the globe, but it costs them $36,000/year on support for the homeless. Now, my maths might be a bit rusty, but isn't $500,000 a lot more than $36,000? And given that we are still in the middle of an economic downturn, shouldn't they be saving money? -$500,000 for all homeless people's transportation. -$36,000 per family Support for the homeless is much more expensive. I see nothing wrong with this as long as there's no coercion involved. At least unlike in Japan, they're allowed to come back if they please. But you don't think it's a problem for other countries? Pouring our homeless into theirs? They're going to stay with their families (assumedly), so technically it shouldn't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 So it costs NYC $500,000/year to ship these homeless people to various destinations across the globe, but it costs them $36,000/year on support for the homeless. Now, my maths might be a bit rusty, but isn't $500,000 a lot more than $36,000? And given that we are still in the middle of an economic downturn, shouldn't they be saving money? -$500,000 for all homeless people's transportation. -$36,000 per family Support for the homeless is much more expensive. I see nothing wrong with this as long as there's no coercion involved. At least unlike in Japan, they're allowed to come back if they please. But you don't think it's a problem for other countries? Pouring our homeless into theirs? As Angelix said, if you had watched the clip, you'd know that they are making sure they have a place to stay at the other end. Usually it's with family. So They're no longer homeless, and therefore no longer a burden on anybody (Well arguably they may be a burden on their families. :P). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted August 15, 2009 Author Share Posted August 15, 2009 So it costs NYC $500,000/year to ship these homeless people to various destinations across the globe, but it costs them $36,000/year on support for the homeless. Now, my maths might be a bit rusty, but isn't $500,000 a lot more than $36,000? And given that we are still in the middle of an economic downturn, shouldn't they be saving money? -$500,000 for all homeless people's transportation. -$36,000 per family Support for the homeless is much more expensive. I see nothing wrong with this as long as there's no coercion involved. At least unlike in Japan, they're allowed to come back if they please. But you don't think it's a problem for other countries? Pouring our homeless into theirs? As Angelix said, if you had watched the clip, you'd know that they are making sure they have a place to stay at the other end. Usually it's with family. So They're no longer homeless, and therefore no longer a burden on anybody (Well arguably they may be a burden on their families. :P ). I don't have volume on my computer (none at all, and I don't have the Windows Disk to reinstall what was deleted), so I chose not to watch it since I wouldn't be able to hear anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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