Shadow Mir Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 So basically, you're not saying that Tellius Astra is bad in of itself, just that there are lots of other skills that are better? Actually I'm saying it stunk in FE9... and was little better in RD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Unless you have holy weapons which boost def by 20 stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Unless you have holy weapons which boost def by 20 stats. You don't need crits in FE10, is what I'm saying. Five attacks should be enough to kill everything under the sun. Actually I'm saying it stunk in FE9... and was little better in RD. Meaning it also stunk in FE4 since it did the exact same thing, only with a higher activation rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 And most other mastery skills did what Astra could do without wasting as much weapon uses. (read: Stun, Impale, etc.) Not even its animation can save Tellius Astra from my fury. He thinks it's a problem because of that, and because you lose 5 weapon uses even though it's 2-3HKO'ing most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) Myrm str cap sucked after FE4. >5HKOing something with high def is actually fairly likely. especially female myrm str. asdf /rage Edited February 26, 2011 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Myrm str cap sucked after FE4. >5HKOing something with high def is actually fairly likely. especially female myrm str. asdf /rage Luna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) Luna for Myrms exist in a game where Swordmasters have the tied HIGHEST str cap. good fucking times. Edited February 26, 2011 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Myrm str cap sucked after FE4. >5HKOing something with high def is actually fairly likely. Care to give some examples? An Endgame general in FE9 has about 42HP and 26DEF. Since if you proc Astra, you really get the five half damage hits + one hit at full damage (since you're doubling), you need to deal 12 damage on a regular hit, or 38ATK. Even for female Swordmasters, the 22 strength cap is easily enough for them to reach 38ATK with a forge, so they 1-round with Astra even the toughest enemies in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) I was saying in general, dammit. I don't have the means to play Tellius. Myrms have it the worst in 7, 8 and 11. 12 you got Lunatic where 30 spd is a godsend. Edited February 26, 2011 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) I was saying in general, dammit. I don't have the means to play Tellius. I can't really think of any Swordmasters between FE6 and FE10 that are so weak they can't even 5HKO. Strength cap isn't even an issue for most of them. None of the Swordmasters in FE6, 7, or 8 actually hit their strength caps. Myrms have it the worst in 7, 8 and 11. FE9 as well. Everything uses lances, everyone good has 9 movement and axes, doubling is really really easy. Edited February 26, 2011 by Anouleth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I was saying in general, dammit. I don't have the means to play Tellius. You can't use the Dolphin emulator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) 6 has that godsend of 30 extra crit, though. Guy is lol and as much as I love Karel, Harken IS better. 8 is lolSethsolo. so they got it pretty bad there. 7 & 8. You can't use the Dolphin emulator? Mac. Edited February 26, 2011 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) Mac. There is a Mac version, but it only works on Intel builds. You probably don't have said build, do you? Edited February 26, 2011 by BLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 'parrently I do have a Intel processor. I heard the lag is terribad on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 6 has that godsend of 30 extra crit, though. Guy is lol and as much as I love Karel, Harken IS better. 8 is lolSethsolo. so they got it pretty bad there. 7 & 8. Joshua and Guy aren't too bad. Just kind of... unbalanced in terms of stats and not really having much to offer aside from good skill/speed. I mean, good skill/speed is great to have in FE6, it's just not that helpful in FE7/8/9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Meaning it also stunk in FE4 since it did the exact same thing, only with a higher activation rate. 5 half damage hits... on a class that's not known for having good Strength for the most part. Good? HAHAHAHAHA no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I like Joshua, actually. I use him when not doing lolsethsolo. FE8 enemy stats are hilarious. Guy makes me rage. bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) Care to give some examples? An Endgame general in FE9 has about 42HP and 26DEF. Since if you proc Astra, you really get the five half damage hits + one hit at full damage (since you're doubling), you need to deal 12 damage on a regular hit, or 38ATK. Even for female Swordmasters, the 22 strength cap is easily enough for them to reach 38ATK with a forge, so they 1-round with Astra even the toughest enemies in the game. Good luck trying to get Mia to cap steength, though... And it doesn't help that Mia and Zihark have skills that are far superior to lolastra. Edited February 26, 2011 by Metal King Slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) 5 half damage hits... on a class that's not known for having good Strength for the most part. Good? HAHAHAHAHA no. Like I just showed five seconds ago, even against the tankiest enemies in FE9, Astra is still pretty much a guaranteed kill. The only one likely to fail is Lucia, and even she can do it with an Energy Drop. Good luck trying to get Mia there, though... And it doesn't help that Mia and Zihark have skills that are far superior to lolastra. Not against the Generals. Adept won't kill, neither will Vantage, since they don't 3HKO. Even Vantage + Wrath doesn't kill on it's own. It's a shame you can't stack them all on one unit, but that's more a problem with the skill system, not Astra itself. Getting Mia to 39ATK isn't very difficult. She probably needs a support to do it, but oh well. Edited February 26, 2011 by Anouleth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) Like I just showed five seconds ago, even against the tankiest enemies in FE9, Astra is still pretty much a guaranteed kill. The only one likely to fail is Lucia, and even she can do it with an Energy Drop. Not against the Generals. Adept won't kill, neither will Vantage, since they don't 3HKO. Even Vantage + Wrath doesn't kill on it's own. It's a shame you can't stack them all on one unit, but that's more a problem with the skill system, not Astra itself. Getting Mia to 39ATK isn't very difficult. She probably needs a support to do it, but oh well. Tch... That method reeks of counter-productive. Edited February 26, 2011 by Metal King Slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Tch... That method reeks of counter-productive. wtf are you on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) wtf are you on Astra on a General sounds like a stupid idea. And I'm sure it IS a stupid idea as well... Edited February 26, 2011 by Metal King Slime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 What if it made the difference of lowering turncount by 1 or more if it happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 What if it made the difference of lowering turncount by 1 or more if it happened? I don't care about turncounts, other than in certain FE6 chapters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 FE is still a strategy game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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