Fei Mao Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) Lances 1. Aran 2. Tauroneo 3. Gatrie 4. Tanith 5. Sigrun Swords 1. Stefan 2. Elincia 3. Renning 4. Mia 5. Zihark Axes 1. Haar 2. Titania 3. Kieran 4. Nolan 5. Jill Bows 1. Shinon 2. Rolf 3. Geoffery 4. Leo 5. Astrid Magic 1. Bastian 2. Micaiah 3. Calill 4. Laura 5. Oliver Healers 1. Laura 2. Micaiah 3. Elincia 4. Oliver Edited June 13, 2010 by Generic Officer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren37 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Axes 1. Nolan 2. Haar 3. Jill 4. Boyd 5. Titania/Kieran Lances 1. Nephenee 2. Gatrie 3. Oscar 4. Aran 5. Geoffrey Swords 1. Ike 2. Mia 3. Edward 4. Zihark 5. Stefan Magic 1. Soren 2. Micaiah 3. Laura 4. Calill 5. Ilyana Bows 1. Shinon 2. Rolf 3. Leonardo 4. Astrid Healing 1. Micaiah 2. Elincia 3. Laura 4. Mist 5. Rhys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 (edited) Swords: 1 Lucia 2 Renning 3 Makalov 4 Ike 5 Elincia Lances: 1 Tanith 2 Marcia 3 Sigrun 4 Aran 5 Danved Axes: 1 Kieran 2 Titania 3 Nolan 4 Jill Bows: 1 Rolf 2 Shinon Magic: 1 Tormod 2 Micaiah 3 Calill 4 Bastian 5 Ilyana Laguz: 1 Muarim 2 Skrimir 3 Ranulf 4 Kyza 5 Janaff Edited June 14, 2010 by Slowking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 (edited) Ooh, here are mine. :3 Axe users: 1. Boyd 2. Ike 3. Kieran 4. Haar 5. Titania Sword users: 1. Ike 2. Edward 3. Elincia 4. Lucia 5. Zihark Lance users: 1. Oscar 2. Gatrie 3. Nephenee 4. Marcia 5. Sigrun Bow users: 1. Shinon 2. Rolf Sorry, but Leo and Astrid are just terrible. Magic users/healers: 1. Soren 2. Rhys 3. Mist 4. Laura I don't use any others besides Micaiah and she's too uber fail. Laguz: 1. Ranulf 2. Muarim 3. Caineghis 4. Tibarn 5. Skrimir That's that. :3 Sothe is really good too though. Edited June 14, 2010 by Eternal Bond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted June 14, 2010 Author Share Posted June 14, 2010 STAFFERS 1: Elincia because canto + healer = boner. 1: Mist because see above. 3: Laura because she helps the Brigade so damn much. 4: That bishop in 3-9 for saving Marcia like a billion times. 5: Rhys. Elincia made me laugh, she is pretty awesome i just dont get quite that exited =p Lances 1. Aran 2. Tauroneo 3. Gatrie 4. Tanith 5. Sigrun thats a(for lack of a better word)unique list, just sayin no one has aran at 1 yet or nobody has no nephenee so props to you for being different. Swords: 1 Lucia 2 Renning 3 Makalov 4 Ike 5 Elincia Lances: 1 Tanith 2 Marcia 3 Sigrun 4 Aran 5 Danved Axes: 1 Kieran 2 Titania 3 Nolan 4 Jill Bows: 1 Rolf 2 Shinon Magic: 1 Tormod 2 Micaiah 3 Calill 4 Bastian 5 Ilyana Laguz: 1 Muarim 2 Skrimir 3 Ranulf 4 Kyza 5 Janaff wow this is a cool list, lucia #1 followed by Tanith #1 and then a kieran at 1(i like kieran alot i just cant stand his caps in this game =/...)and then you have rolf, tormod who could be considered awesome for making P1 quicker and doorbreaking 4-4. Muarim no 1 is pretty neat too. all in all i just like the variety but i like how most people use certain characters, so thanks to all the replies cause i just wanna know who people are usin. =] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I guess if it's just favorites and who we use... Limited to how much I feel is worth mentioning. Swords: 1. Ike 2. Mia 3. Elincia 4. Zihark Lances: 1. Nephenee 2. Marcia 3. Gatrie 4. Tanith Axes: 1. Jill 2. Boyd Bows: 1. Shinon 2. Astrid/Rolf Magic & healing: 1. Mist 2. Micaiah 3. Calill Laguz: 1. Volug 2. Janaff 3. Ulki 4. Ranulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Poleax Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 (edited) my favourites: Swords: 1. Edward 2. Ike 3. Zihark 4. Elincia 5. Mia Lances: 1. Oscar 2. Marcia 3. Gatrie 4. Nephenee 5. Geoffrey Axes: 1. Boyd 2. Jill 3. Kieran 4. Haar 5. Titania Bows: 1. Rolf 2. Shinon 3. Oscar Magic/healing: 1. Tormod 2. Rhys 3. Calill 4. Elincia 5. Mist Laguz: (normally I don't use them) 1. Janaff 2. Ranulf 3. Ulki 4. Mordecai 5. Maurim Edited June 14, 2010 by Killer Poleax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 I'm really not seeing how Boyd is on, let alone top of, any lists? I mean, he's incredibly slow, even for an axe user, and is among people who simply outclass him. If I wanted to use an axe user from the GMs, I'd choose Haar first, then Titania, then Gatrie, and Boyd wouldn't even get a look in. Gatrie in fact completely outclasses Boyd - higher bases and higher or very close growths everywhere that matters (STR, SPD, DEF). Anyway, for the sake of the topic: Axers: 1: Haar 2: Titania 3: Nolan 4: Gatrie 5: Jill Lancers: 1: Gatrie 2: Nephenee 3: Aran 4: Sigrun 5: Tanith Swordsmen: 1: Ike 2: Zihark 3: Mia 4: Mist 5: Elincia Bowmen: 1: Shinon 2: Rolf 3: Geoffrey 4: Leonardo 5: Oscar Healers: 1: Micaiah 2: Laura 3: Mist 4: Elincia 5: Rhys Mages: 1: Soren 2: Micaiah 3: Tormod 4: Callil 5: Bastian Laguz: 1: Volug 2: Ulki 3: Janaff 4: Nailah 5: Ranulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Poleax Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 (edited) I'm really not seeing how Boyd is on, let alone top of, any lists? I mean, he's incredibly slow, even for an axe user, and is among people who simply outclass him. If I wanted to use an axe user from the GMs, I'd choose Haar first, then Titania, then Gatrie, and Boyd wouldn't even get a look in. Gatrie in fact completely outclasses Boyd - higher bases and higher or very close growths everywhere that matters (STR, SPD, DEF). well I play on normal mode and he's great for me there. I'd choose him over the other 3. also I'm not efficient crazy either Edited June 16, 2010 by Killer Poleax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 I'm really not seeing how Boyd is on, let alone top of, any lists? I mean, he's incredibly slow, even for an axe user, and is among people who simply outclass him. If I wanted to use an axe user from the GMs, I'd choose Haar first, then Titania, then Gatrie, and Boyd wouldn't even get a look in. Gatrie in fact completely outclasses Boyd - higher bases and higher or very close growths everywhere that matters (STR, SPD, DEF). Gatrie may have a higher speed growth, but the cap? thats what slows him down. haar and titan i understand if you perfer mobility and boyd takes a little work to use, but after being trained he's IMO the best player phase beorc unit in the game. and with a transfer he's doing much better than others and can double sooner, what people dont realise is that his speed growth isnt terrible(45 the same as rolf and sothe)his base may suck but his cap is 35 which is pretty damnn good. haar titan and boyd are just preferences on movement and if you want a unit thats good now or later but you can still train boyd in P3(its a looooong part, especially for GM) so Do you still think Gatrie outclasses Boyd with his so called higher str growth Boyd has 65 Gatrie 60 Lol check your facts before posting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Gatrie may have a higher speed growth, but the cap? thats what slows him down. haar and titan i understand if you perfer mobility and boyd takes a little work to use, but after being trained he's IMO the best player phase beorc unit in the game. and with a transfer he's doing much better than others and can double sooner, what people dont realise is that his speed growth isnt terrible(45 the same as rolf and sothe)his base may suck but his cap is 35 which is pretty damnn good. haar titan and boyd are just preferences on movement and if you want a unit thats good now or later but you can still train boyd in P3(its a looooong part, especially for GM). Gatrie caps at 23, which he hits very quickly. As soon as he's not doubling a lot, he can take a Master Crown - it's generally accepted he's the best option for it. Boyd does take work to use, and that's why he shouldn't be up there - unlike almost every other GM he's not great from start to finish, and because of his lowish SPD growth he's not doubling really anything until at least 3-8 (I'm only using 5 units in my axe only playthough, and at 3-7 Boyd is still only doubling Generals with average SPD). He will only reach his cap after... wait, never, without a moderate dose of BEXP anyway, and even then he's not hitting it until endgame. Still, he does double fairly reliably after promotion - well over halfway through part 3. Titania and Haar are better in almost every way than Boyd - better at first, and better later, except for endgame which is the easiest part of the game anyway. Do you still think Gatrie outclasses Boyd with his so called higher str growth Boyd has 65 Gatrie 60 Lol check your facts before posting... Gatrie in fact completely outclasses Boyd - higher bases and higher or very close growths everywhere that matters (STR, SPD, DEF). BREAKING NEWS! 65% IS NOT A CLOSE GROWTH TO 60%! Boyd never really ends up very good. After promoting, he's almost as good as attacking as a trained Haar - except Haar has innate Cancel, flying, higher movement and higher DEF, so in addition to ORKOing everything easily and having two weapon types (Crossbows don't count) he's able to actually survive a lot longer. Gatrie after promoting is doubling everything up to endgame except perhaps Swordmasters, and he can promote far earlier than Boyd can. Really, Boyd doesn't do anything Gatrie or Haar can do, and they can do it better. There is, after all, a reason for this: [spoiler=Tier list]Top (4) Reyson Ike Haar Volug High (12) Sothe Mia Titania Gatrie Leanne Nailah Zihark Janaff Ulki Nolan Shinon Rafiel Upper Middle (13) Micaiah Elincia Black Knight Tibarn Naesala Nephenee Laura Jill Oscar Mordecai Ranulf Aran Boyd Middle (14) Mist Marcia Heather Tauroneo Brom Rhys Caineghis/Giffca Muarim Skrimir Tanith Kieran Calill Soren Lower Middle (16) Geoffrey Edward Lucia Volke Stefan Tormod Rolf Leonardo Nealuchi Nasir Ilyana Ena Sigrun Makalov Danved Vika Low (10) Kurthnaga Lethe Renning Gareth Sanaki Bastian Lehran Oliver Kyza Pelleas Bottom (4) Astrid Meg Fiona Lyre And that's based on Hard mode, where a lot of the units above him that would be doubling on Normal mode, don't. On Normal, Boyd's non doubling relative to them would push him lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Before reading the thread, I assumed this was the top 5 of the actual weapons. So just for fun... (raw stats do not make the weapon "best," how well it can be used does): Axes 1. Brave Axe 2. Steel Poleaxe 3. Forged Hand Axe 4. Hammer 5. Tarvos Lances 1. Javelin 2. Steel Greatlance 3. Brave Lance 4. Forged Silver Lance 5. Killer Lance Swords 1. Steel Blade 2. Ragnell 3. Brave Sword 4. Tempest Blade 5. Forged Iron Sword Bows 1. Brave Bow 2. Silencer 3. Killer Bow 4. Steel Longbow 5. Bowgun Knives 1. Steel Knife 2. Beast Killer 3. Silver Dagger 4. Peshkatz 5. Baselard Strikes 1. Fang (Wolf) 2. Talon (Hawk) 3. Great Talon (Tibarn) 4. Great Fang (Nailah) 5. Fang (Tiger) Tomes 1. Thani 2. Forged Fire 3. Elwind 4. Meteor 5. Nosferatu Staves 1. Physic 2. Mend 3. Sleep 4. Heal 5. Rescue Stat Boosters 1. Speedwings 2. Dracoshield 3. Energy Drop 4. Arms Scroll 5. Seraph Robe Consumables 1. Concoction 2. Laguz Stone 3. Olivi Grass 4. Pure Water 5. Chest Key Skills 1. Paragon 2. Adept 3. Resolve 4. Celerity 5. Nihil/Disarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Gatrie may have a higher speed growth, but the cap? thats what slows him down. haar and titan i understand if you perfer mobility and boyd takes a little work to use, but after being trained he's IMO the best player phase beorc unit in the game. and with a transfer he's doing much better than others and can double sooner, what people dont realise is that his speed growth isnt terrible(45 the same as rolf and sothe)his base may suck but his cap is 35 which is pretty damnn good. haar titan and boyd are just preferences on movement and if you want a unit thats good now or later but you can still train boyd in P3(its a looooong part, especially for GM) so Do you still think Gatrie outclasses Boyd with his so called higher str growth Boyd has 65 Gatrie 60 Lol check your facts before posting... First bold: Does it really matter how good his cap is if he'll almost never reach it? No. Second bold: He said that Gatrie either had higher or very close growths everywhere that matters, which is true. The rest: As for the transfer bit, Boyd's only got a 17% chance of capping speed on average. That's pretty iffy. Haar has two weapon types to choose from, along with better mobility and defense, which means that he can see more combat and live longer. Sure, Part 3 may be long, but Boyd never shines during it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Gatrie caps at 23, which he hits very quickly. As soon as he's not doubling a lot, he can take a Master Crown - it's generally accepted he's the best option for it. Boyd does take work to use, and that's why he shouldn't be up there - unlike almost every other GM he's not great from start to finish, and because of his lowish SPD growth he's not doubling really anything until at least 3-8 (I'm only using 5 units in my axe only playthough, and at 3-7 Boyd is still only doubling Generals with average SPD). He will only reach his cap after... wait, never, without a moderate dose of BEXP anyway, and even then he's not hitting it until endgame. Still, he does double fairly reliably after promotion - well over halfway through part 3. Titania and Haar are better in almost every way than Boyd - better at first, and better later, except for endgame which is the easiest part of the game anyway. BREAKING NEWS! 65% IS NOT A CLOSE GROWTH TO 60%! Boyd never really ends up very good. After promoting, he's almost as good as attacking as a trained Haar - except Haar has innate Cancel, flying, higher movement and higher DEF, so in addition to ORKOing everything easily and having two weapon types (Crossbows don't count) he's able to actually survive a lot longer. Gatrie after promoting is doubling everything up to endgame except perhaps Swordmasters, and he can promote far earlier than Boyd can. Really, Boyd doesn't do anything Gatrie or Haar can do, and they can do it better. There is, after all, a reason for this: gatrie dosen't double everything until endgame, and he has problems until he's promoted so assuming you want to use a master crown you could use on Haar who also benefits greatly from it. boyd hits much much harder than gatrie or haar, if he doubles it, he kills it, and Gatrie is hardly an axe user since he'd rather take a wishblade. and so take away gatrie and Boyd is number 5 on tiers, gatrie, titan, jill, haar and nolan probably are more realistic characters to use from an effeciancy stand point, but people put boyd at #1 because its completely opinion. and again most people count Gatrie as a lancer so that answers one of your initial questions as to why boyd is on so many people's lists.(they simply want an awesome badass hardhitting doubling 3rd tier unit.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 (edited) gatrie dosen't double everything until endgame, and he has problems until he's promoted so assuming you want to use a master crown you could use on Haar who also benefits greatly from it. boyd hits much much harder than gatrie or haar, if he doubles it, he kills it, and Gatrie is hardly an axe user since he'd rather take a wishblade. and so take away gatrie and Boyd is number 5 on tiers, gatrie, titan, jill, haar and nolan probably are more realistic characters to use from an effeciancy stand point, but people put boyd at #1 because its completely opinion. and again most people count Gatrie as a lancer so that answers one of your initial questions as to why boyd is on so many people's lists.(they simply want an awesome badass hardhitting doubling 3rd tier unit.) Slight problem: Boyd almost never doubles until he promotes. Also, he's not hitting that much harder than Haar or Gatrie, really. As for Haar and the master crown, I'd rather not gimp him by crowning him before he caps speed. At any rate, Boyd still can't hold a candle to Gatrie. Also, I fail to see how the Wishblade is relevant to this argument since you don't get it until 4-E-2. Edited June 16, 2010 by Ein Lanford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 gatrie dosen't double everything until endgame, and he has problems until he's promoted so assuming you want to use a master crown you could use on Haar who also benefits greatly from it. boyd hits much much harder than gatrie or haar, if he doubles it, he kills it, and Gatrie is hardly an axe user since he'd rather take a wishblade. and so take away gatrie and Boyd is number 5 on tiers, gatrie, titan, jill, haar and nolan probably are more realistic characters to use from an effeciancy stand point, but people put boyd at #1 because its completely opinion. and again most people count Gatrie as a lancer so that answers one of your initial questions as to why boyd is on so many people's lists.(they simply want an awesome badass hardhitting doubling 3rd tier unit.) Gatrie doesn't double *Everything*, but he doubles most enemies, considering he hits 23 SPD by --/15 and starts at --/10, which he reaches by about 3-4. Haar's speed is slightly shaky too, so Haar prefers to level up and BEXP a few levels of SPD. Hence, Gatrie is generally the best option for the Crown, but even without it, 23 SPD doubles most enemies up to and past 3-7, around when he'd promote. For comparison, Boyd doesn't reach 23 SPD until about --/19, and after they promote, Gatries SPD is again higher until he caps. Generally, Gatrie has no problems with his SPD, and has the STR to 2RKO. Boyd's STR doesn't beat Gatries until --/16, and he's still not doubling consistently at that point. He doesn't beat Haar until --/19, and when Boyd has reached that, Haar has promoted anyway, and, oh yeah, Haar has a much higher STR growth - 5% higher than Boyd's, so it's only when Boyd caps STR - some time during part 4, possibly even endgame, that he's hitting harder than Haar. Gatrie's primary weapons are Lances, but he can use every axe except the Urvan, so why shouldn't he be an axe user? I suppose in terms of opinion, if you place weight on the easy endgame then yes, Boyd can easily be a decent character. But there's no way he could be better than Haar, or Jill, or Nolan, or Titania, and that's already 4 units who are almost empirically above him. If you accept Gatrie as an axe user, you have your 5th, and Boyd is out of the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 (edited) Before reading the thread, I assumed this was the top 5 of the actual weapons. So just for fun... (raw stats do not make the weapon "best," how well it can be used does): Axes 1. Brave Axe 2. Steel Poleaxe 3. Forged Hand Axe 4. Hammer 5. Tarvos Lances 1. Javelin 2. Steel Greatlance 3. Brave Lance 4. Forged Silver Lance 5. Killer Lance Swords 1. Steel Blade 2. Ragnell 3. Brave Sword 4. Tempest Blade 5. Forged Iron Sword Bows 1. Brave Bow 2. Silencer 3. Killer Bow 4. Steel Longbow 5. Bowgun Knives 1. Steel Knife 2. Beast Killer 3. Silver Dagger 4. Peshkatz 5. Baselard Strikes 1. Fang (Wolf) 2. Talon (Hawk) 3. Great Talon (Tibarn) 4. Great Fang (Nailah) 5. Fang (Tiger) Tomes 1. Thani 2. Forged Fire 3. Elwind 4. Meteor 5. Nosferatu Staves 1. Physic 2. Mend 3. Sleep 4. Heal 5. Rescue Stat Boosters 1. Speedwings 2. Dracoshield 3. Energy Drop 4. Arms Scroll 5. Seraph Robe Consumables 1. Concoction 2. Laguz Stone 3. Olivi Grass 4. Pure Water 5. Chest Key Skills 1. Paragon 2. Adept 3. Resolve 4. Celerity 5. Nihil/Disarm Really, I fail to see how a longbow of any sort, let alone a steel longbow, can be considered one of the best bows in the game. Attacking at 3 range means losing 30 accuracy, and with the fact that longbows have crappy accuracy to begin with... As Sonic says, that's NO GOOD. Also, longbows become obsolete once Marksmen enter the equation. Edited June 16, 2010 by Ein Lanford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Really, I fail to see how a longbow of any sort, let alone a steel longbow, can be considered one of the best bows in the game. Attacking at 3 range means losing 30 accuracy, and with the fact that longbows have crappy accuracy to begin with... As Sonic says, that's NO GOOD. Also, longbows become obsolete once Marksmen enter the equation. Most bows suck, so it's kind of a reach to find a "top 5" anyway. I suppose one could argue the Double Bow is so good in the 4 1/2 chapters it exists (more like 2 1/2 really) that it deserves #4 or #5, and Bowgun is assuming flying sniping, *-foe abuse, and Disarm, so that's certainly debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 I would certainly say Double Bow gets more use in it's 4 1/2 chapters than Steel Longbows get over the entire game. Comparing Steel Longbow to Steel Bows, it gains 2mt and 1 range at the cost of 8wt, 20 hit (it has 30 effective hit at 3 range) and costing almost 7 times as much per use. I'd definitely put Steel Bows in it's place, for the good hit, mt, availablity and cost balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 (edited) Gatrie doesn't double *Everything*, but he doubles most enemies, considering he hits 23 SPD by --/15 and starts at --/10, which he reaches by about 3-4. Haar's speed is slightly shaky too, so Haar prefers to level up and BEXP a few levels of SPD. Hence, Gatrie is generally the best option for the Crown, but even without it, 23 SPD doubles most enemies up to and past 3-7, around when he'd promote. For comparison, Boyd doesn't reach 23 SPD until about --/19, and after they promote, Gatries SPD is again higher until he caps. Generally, Gatrie has no problems with his SPD, and has the STR to 2RKO. Boyd's STR doesn't beat Gatries until --/16, and he's still not doubling consistently at that point. He doesn't beat Haar until --/19, and when Boyd has reached that, Haar has promoted anyway, and, oh yeah, Haar has a much higher STR growth - 5% higher than Boyd's, so it's only when Boyd caps STR - some time during part 4, possibly even endgame, that he's hitting harder than Haar. Gatrie's primary weapons are Lances, but he can use every axe except the Urvan, so why shouldn't he be an axe user? I suppose in terms of opinion, if you place weight on the easy endgame then yes, Boyd can easily be a decent character. But there's no way he could be better than Haar, or Jill, or Nolan, or Titania, and that's already 4 units who are almost empirically above him. If you accept Gatrie as an axe user, you have your 5th, and Boyd is out of the competition. Boyd isn't completely based on endgame, he's a tank in P4, which is pretty nice having a guy who you can count on to take out armours without a hammer, and for P3 bowguns are pretty nice for flyers giving him a little bit of something over gatrie, genrally gatrie, titan, haar, jill and nolan will have better stats, but a transfer (which many people personnally have and this is personal list) does wonders for boyd Edited June 16, 2010 by King Soren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 (edited) Boyd isn't completely based on endgame, he's a tank in P4, which is pretty nice having a guy who you can count on to take out armours without a hammer, and for P3 bowguns are pretty nice for flyers giving him a little bit of something over gatrie, genrally gatrie, titan, haar, jill and nolan will have better stats, but a transfer (which many people personnally have and this is personal list) does wonders for boyd What exactly are bowguns doing for Boyd in part 3? Nothing, seeing as you're only seeing wyverns for flyers in the Mercenaries' maps. Also, I say again, a speed transfer is pretty iffy for Boyd. Edited June 16, 2010 by Ein Lanford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Princess Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 What exactly are bowguns doing for Boyd in part 3? Nothing, seeing as you're only seeing wyverns for flyers in the Mercenaries' maps. Also, I say again, a speed transfer is pretty iffy for Boyd. It can help him not get doubled maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 It can help him not get doubled maybe? Way to miss the point. Boyd's chance of capping speed in PoR is 17%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 Boyd capping speed is not far fetched at all its not far fetched one bit. and darn it i said P3? i meant P4 sorry. The point is, some people including myself like having a character like boyd because he's fun to use, and this is opion based so people like myself aren't saying that boyd is always better than gatrie or haar, i think gatrie is a hell of alot better but boyd doesnt suck sack like alot of people say, thats all im trying to get across here. and i dont find training him to be a hassle or cost me extra turns, but what about one thing no one has mentioned, boyd can Triangle Attack. This gives him an advantage not many other characters have.(critical is one hit with boyd....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Boyd capping speed is not far fetched at all its not far fetched one bit. and darn it i said P3? i meant P4 sorry. The point is, some people including myself like having a character like boyd because he's fun to use, and this is opion based so people like myself aren't saying that boyd is always better than gatrie or haar, i think gatrie is a hell of alot better but boyd doesnt suck sack like alot of people say, thats all im trying to get across here. and i dont find training him to be a hassle or cost me extra turns, but what about one thing no one has mentioned, boyd can Triangle Attack. This gives him an advantage not many other characters have.(critical is one hit with boyd....) It's only a significant advantage if he goes Tibarn's route, really. Also, the triangle attack isn't much help for Boyd seeing as he HAS to wield a crossbow to use it, and... Crossbows aren't much of anything special unless they're getting effective damage or are used for disarming purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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