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I started a new playthrough since on my last one I did not manage to get beastfoe; on a bright side some of my characters are being blessed.

List of MVP's:

1-P Edward

1-1 Nolan

1-2 Nolan

1-3 Sothe

1-4 Sothe

1-5 Sothe

1-6 Volug

1-7 Jill

1-8 Nailah

1-9 Black Knight

1-E Nailah

2-P Marcia

2-1 Nephenee

2-2 Nephenee

2-3 Geoffrey

2-E Haar

3-P Titania

3-1 Titania

3-2 Haar

3-3 Titania

3-4 Haar

3-5 Haar

3-6 Nolan

3-7 Haar

3-8 Haar

3-9 Marcia

3-10 Haar

List of Worst unit performance (pretty much who I saw perform the worst):

1-P Leonardo (Arrives too late)

1-1 Leonardo (Least offense, second worst durability)

1-2 Leonardo (Bad durability, doubled easily, least offense)

1-3 Leonardo (horrible offense, second worst durability)

1-4 Leonardo (bad offense, doubled too easily, worst durability)

1-5 Aran (hit issues, doubled easily, bad resistance)

1-6-1 Meg (bad offense, no durability against anything but pegs)

1-6-2 Meg (Can't use ballistae, horrible move, bad offense, doubled too easily)

1-7 Nolan (hit issues, bad resistance)

1-8 Nolan (hit issues, doubling issues, bad resistance)

1-9 Micaiah (worst durability, horrible speed, doubled too easily)

1-E Aran (low level, bad resistance, not the best offense, doubled easily)

2-P Nealuchi (laguz gauge slowed him down compared to others)

2-1 Brom (can't double, move issues)

2-2 Nealuchi (laguz gauge, bad nightsight, weak to bows)

2-3 Astrid (weakest durability, least offense)

2-E Lethe (doubled easily, worst offense, worst durability)

3-P Rolf (Worst offense)

3-1 Rolf (Worst offense, worst durability)

3-2 Brom (doubled easily, worst resistance, hit issues)

3-3 Boyd (Hit issues, bad resistance, doubling issues)

3-4 Soren (Doubled easily)

3-5 Mist (Worst durability, worst offense)

3-6 B.K (Made no contributions)

3-7 Ranulf (laguz gauge slowed him down)

3-8 Heather (Worst offense)

3-9 Danved (Hit issues, worst mobility)

3-10 Ranulf (Laguz gauge didn't allow him to keep up much, destined Shove bot)

3-11 Ranulf (Might as well not give him Olivi grass)

3-12 Meg (Gaining B support with Leo and a lucky hit was less than Fiona ferrying imo)

3-13 Fiona (all she did was block a ledge, so did Sothe but he can hit something)

3-E Ranulf (Why use olivi grass on him? He's better off shoving)

List of Forges:

1-4:

-Iron Knife +3 MT nicknamed Cook Knife

-Thunder +2 MT, +1 HIT (hit was so unnecessary) nicknamed Lightning

-Iron Axe +3 MT nicknamed Fighter Axe

1-5:

-Iron Lance +1MT, +1 HIT nicknamed Slim Lance

1-6-1:

-Iron Knife +2MT, +1 HIT nicknamed Chef's Knife

-Iron Axe +2MT, +1 HIT nicknamed Trainee Axe

1-7:

-Iron Lance +2MT,+1 HIT +Coin Bonus Twin Swords +3MT nicknamed Reiginleaf

-Iron Axe +5MT, +2HIT nicknamed Wyvern Axe

1-8:

-Fire Tome +3MT, +1 Crt nicknamed Flames

3-2:

-Wind Tome +5MT +Coin Bonus Archer +10 Hit nicknamed Breeze

-Steel Bow +5MT +5 Hit +Coin Bonus Twin Swords +3MT nicknamed Lady Bow

3-7:

-Javelin +5MT, +10Hit +Coin Bonus +1MT nicknamed Battle Spear

-Steel Lance +5MT nicknamed Knight Lance

3-10:

-Hand Axe +5MT +Coin bonus nothing nicknamed Draco Axe

3-11:

-Hand Axe +5MT +Coin bonus nothing nicknamed Flail

-Javelin +5MT +Coin bonus +10 Hit nicknamed Slim Spear

-Thunder +5MT nicknamed Bolting (I was trying to think of something unused but oh well)

-Javelin +3 MT nicknamed Long Spear

-Javelin +3 MT nicknamed Long Spear

4-2:

-Silver Axe +5MT, +3 Hit (nicknamed Crimson Axe for Kieran in 4-2)

-Silver Axe +5MT, +3 Hit (nicknamed Gold Axe for Boyd in 4-2)

-Fire +5MT (nicknamed Ashes for Callil in 4-2)

-Thunder +5MT, +1 Hit, +5 Crt (for Pelleas in 4-2)

-Silver Sword +5MT (nicknamed Golden Sword for Lucia in 4-2)

-Javelin +5MT, +1 Hit (nicknamed Violet Spear for convoy)

-Hand Axe +5MT (nicknamed Throw Axe for convoy)

-Hand Axe +5MT (nicknamed Violet Axe for convoy)

Chapter details:

1-P/1-1/1-2/1-3

1-4/1-5

1-6

1-7

1-8

1-9/1-E

2-P/2-1

2-2/2-3/2-E

3-P/3-1

3-2

3-3

3-4/3-5

3-6

Planned Blessed Weapons and characters for Endgame:

Ragnell-Ike

Rexaura-Micaiah

Cymbeline-Sanaki (or Rexflame)

Baselard-Sothe (or Beastkiller)

Double Bow- Astrid

Vague Katti- Stefan

Urvan- Jill

Wishblade- Marcia most likely

Ena

Kurth

Rafiel

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[spoiler=Data Transfered characters]Nephenee

46hp

S-lances

25 str

10 mag

28 skl

26 spd

16 lck

28 def

15 res

Jill

49hp

A-axe, B-lance

27 str

14 mag

26 skl

27 spd

20 lck

27 def

22 res

39hp

D-swords, S-staves

19 str

25 mag

24 skl

28 spd

35 lck

23 def

21 res

Tanith

40hp

S-sword, A-lance

22 str

14 mag

26 skl

28 spd

19 lck

18 def

18 res

Astrid

45hp

D-Axe, A-bow

25 str

14 mag

26 skl

27 spd

26 lck

27 def

18 res

Haar

54 hp

A-axe, A-lance

26 str

8 mag

23 skl

18 spd

13 lck

29 def

11 res

Titania

48hp

A-lance, S-Axe

23 str

8 mag

26 skl

27 spd

19 lck

16 def

22 res

Ilyana

44 hp

B-thunder, A-staves, D-wind, D-fire

15 str

30 mag

28 skl

28 spd

20 lck

12 def

28 res

Mist

45hp

S-staves, B-swords

20 str

26 mag

19 skl

26 spd

26 lck

20 def

26 res

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Chapter 1-P

Completed in 7 turns

I got lucky but that still didn't reduce to 6 turns. Micaiah landed one critical and Edward landed a few, Leonardo didn't get to do much but chip the boss; Micaiah got the boss kill.

Unit    Lvl   HP ST MG SK SP LK DF RS  Support

Micaiah  2.07 15 2  8  8  8  10 2  5  A Sothe
Eddie    5.46 20 8  0  11 13 8  5  0   
Leo      4.06 17 8  0  12 10 6  5  4  

Chapter 1-1

Completed in 7 turns

Nolan and Eddie did their walling and got some kills, I gave one to Micaiah because Edward couldn't finish the fighter and I had him heal himself for the next. Nolan visited the house to get the hand axe himself. Everyone helped clear the way for Micaiah, Nolan got the boss kill.

Unit    Lvl   HP ST MG SK SP LK DF RS  Support

Micaiah  2.70 15 2  8  8  8  10 2  5  A Sothe
Eddie    6.30 21 9  0 11 13 9  5  0   
Leo      4.38 17 8  0 12 10 6  5  4  
Nolan    9.88 29 12 0 11 10 7  9  3                              

Chapter 1-2

Completed in 8 turns

I could have finished in 7 turns but I decided to get the wind edge. Eddie blocked the door, Leo and Nolan went up and so did Micaiah and Laura. As soon as Eddie finished off the first soldier I had him move below the ledge so he could be closer to the chest. Sothe went directly to the right and stole some vulenaries as well as killing the archer with the steel bow. Got every treasure, every enemy killed except the boss.

Unit    Lvl    HP  ST MG SK SP LK DF RS   Support

Micaiah   3.91 15  2  8  8   8 10  2  5  A Sothe 
Eddie     6.95 21  9  0 11  13  9  5  0   
Leo       5.37 17  8  0 12  10  6  5  4  
Nolan    11.04 30 14  2 13  11  8 10  3 
Sothe     1.55 35 18  4 20  20 15 14  9  A Micaiah
Laura     1.55 16  3  8  3   5  8  2 10                      

Chapter 1-3

Completed in 7 turns

I did similar to last time by sending Eddie in range of archer and Ilyana behind him. Everyone else went left, I killed that soldier before I forgot (the one that doesn't move a few turns he got me game overs last time I thought he would never move and there he goes and kills Leo/Laura). I forgot to take discipline off the boss and Nolan took the boss kill. I managed to have more of my units escape but the npcs weren't in range and I didn't want to wait a turn. Sorry I didn't keep track of this chapter's growths.

Unit    Lvl    HP ST MG SK SP LK DF RS   Support

Micaiah   3.-- 15  2  8  8  8 10  2  5  A Sothe
Eddie     6.-- 21  9  0 11 13  9  5  0   
Leo       5.-- 17  8  0 12 10  6  5  4  
Nolan    11.-- 30 14  2 13 11  8 10  3 
Sothe     1.-- 35 18  4 20 20 15 14  9  A Micaiah
Laura     1.-- 16  3  8  3  5  8  2 10    
Ilyana   12.-- 22  8 14 14 15  6  3 11
Aran      7.-- 24 10  0 12 10  6 11  2            

I wouldn't worry too much about chapter 1-3. The BEXP is not worth it, and neither is Discipline, imo.

I let them escape because there weren't anymore enemies left beside a general and a myrm which Ilyana and Eddie took care of :P. I only wanted Discipline to sell it and you're right though its really not much to worry about. The npcs were close to escape but i didn't really want to wait, and like you said the bexp isnt worth a turn.

BTW if a character like Ilyana is on a level likee 12.99 is it worth putting that bexp on her to raise her speed?

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I'm wondering how long a support with Ilyana and Meg will pull through although I don't need it much unless she wasn't data transfered, Ilyana's hit is good. I don''t know who to support Nolan with I noticed he's been having a lot of hit issues and I didn't want to support him with Eddie because he gains no hit. BTW is Laura and Leo support good? I used it last time since his attack and hit was a bit iffy but idk if he would be better supporting someone else.

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Nolan will get DEF/hit from Eddie (Eddie is Light, not Thunder), so that's a good support even if only for a little while, because it builds quickly. Anyway, he won't have HIT issues at 1-range if you forge him a sweet axe in 1-4 (which I would highly recommend). Long-term, you can support him with someone else, since Nolan's SKL and LCK growths are insane and HIT is not an issue for him.

LauraxLeo is alright, but it won't make Leo good. At best it lets him get some benefit from his own affinity, and that's about all (unless you don;t forge him a bow, in which case he also getting a little bit of HIT).

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Nolan will get DEF/hit from Eddie (Eddie is Light, not Thunder), so that's a good support even if only for a little while, because it builds quickly. Anyway, he won't have HIT issues at 1-range if you forge him a sweet axe in 1-4 (which I would highly recommend). Long-term, you can support him with someone else, since Nolan's SKL and LCK growths are insane and HIT is not an issue for him.

LauraxLeo is alright, but it won't make Leo good. At best it lets him get some benefit from his own affinity, and that's about all (unless you don;t forge him a bow, in which case he also getting a little bit of HIT).

I didn't think about forging Leo a bow, I guess I'll forge him a cheap one. What I need are coins :(. I also forged Nolan something but only to raise the atk not hit <_< I guess I'll give that forge to Jill and forge him another with better hit.

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I'd finish off Ilyana's level with BEXP just for MAG/SKL.

Really, for characters like Laura or Leo that you're probably not using for long-term combat, it doesn't matter what support they take. Wind is as good as it gets for Leonardo, since at least it's a little bit of hit.

Nolan can support most people fine. Aran, Edward, even Jill or Volug. But I'd probably give him Edward or Leo to begin, and break it off later in favour of Aran or Jill (depending on who I'm using).

Jill has hit issues just as bad as Nolan, so she ideally wants a forge with +hit as well. Seriously, the DB is swimming in money. +10 hit on an Iron forge is a measly 160 gold. Even +20 hit is only 640 gold. You might also want to forge a Thunder tome for Ilyana, but she can make do with Elthunder if you want to go crazy with forges for other people.

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I'd finish off Ilyana's level with BEXP just for MAG/SKL.

Really, for characters like Laura or Leo that you're probably not using for long-term combat, it doesn't matter what support they take. Wind is as good as it gets for Leonardo, since at least it's a little bit of hit.

Nolan can support most people fine. Aran, Edward, even Jill or Volug. But I'd probably give him Edward or Leo to begin, and break it off later in favour of Aran or Jill (depending on who I'm using).

I'm using both Jill and Aran for Part 1 and 3 for endgame I'll probably use both too but not Nolan.

I guess I'll support Nolan with Eddie since Leo is getting the boot in 1-7.

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I wouldnt take aran to endgame, he has some major issues there, he cant do much to dheg, bad against spirits(my maxed aran couldnt double any but thunder and that was NM) and for aura killing there are better people, jill on the other hand owns at endgame because of canto and awesome stats. Nolan is better than Aran for most things, aran is like Nolan jr. IMO

and for Ilyana i usually do it depending on if i need them first turn or not =p.

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I wouldnt take aran to endgame, he has some major issues there, he cant do much to dheg, bad against spirits(my maxed aran couldnt double any but thunder and that was NM) and for aura killing there are better people, jill on the other hand owns at endgame because of canto and awesome stats. Nolan is better than Aran for most things, aran is like Nolan jr. IMO

and for Ilyana i usually do it depending on if i need them first turn or not =p.

Are you serious? :o

Well it mnakes me feel ridiculous how I planned Aran for an efficient playthrough and Nephenee for an unefficient playthrough :D.

BTW is Aran capped speed lagging in endgame? I sure hope he's going to be blessed or I'll have to leave him behind.

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Chapter 1-4

Completed in 7 turns

587 total BEXP

Although I took one turn more than last time I got everything, except the coin. I had Leo stand in the coins spot for two turns then had him move on. Sothe, Nolan, and Leo go up everyone else down-right-up. If the tiger has 10AS I put Meg in range, luckily that first one always did in my 3 restarts so Meg chipped and Micaiah sacrificed, Ilyana weakened him furthermore for Aran who got the kill. Eddie and Aran behaved as walls and got most of the kills down there. I traded Meg the wind edge so that cat could untransform. Meg and Sothe got the boss kills; Meg got it becuase Aran missed and Ilyana had weakened the boss, Edward killed the cat that moved with the boss and Micaiah wasn't in range. Nolan and Leo got the chest keys and one went left and the other right (Nolan). Found both Master seal (Meg) and Beasfoe(Sothe). I had forged a Tome for Ilyana, Iron axe for Nolan, and a knife for Sothe; also bought Laura a mend.

Unit       Lvl HP ST MG SK SP LK DF RS   Support

Micaiah   5.64 15  3 11  9  8 13  3  8  A Sothe
Eddie     8.47 23 11  0 13 13 11  7  1   
Leo       6.03 18  8  0 14 11  7  5  5  
Nolan    12.42 31 14  2 13 11  9 10  4 
Sothe     2.91 35 18  4 21 21 15 15 10  A Micaiah
Laura     2.94 16  3  9  4  6  8  3 10    
Ilyana   13.59 23  9 15 14 16  7  4 11
Aran      8.33 24 11  0 13 11  7 12  2      
Meg       4.23 22 10  1  7  9  9 10  5      

Chapter 1-5

Completed in 6 turns

851 total BEXP

15,330 funds

I had Meg move up and hurt the myrm with a steel sword (he still doubles her if she wields iron). Laura heals, Ilyana with 16 speed rapes the fighters with or without a forge. Had Leo be put below Laura, Micaiah chipped the myrm Meg attacked Eddie kills him. Volug kills the other fighter, Aran javelins the other myrm and Nolan kills him. Sothe went up to kill the soliders/fighters/myrms there with his forged knife. After that Volug kills the mage/soliders/whatever in range and looks for the concotion. Sothe goes down to steal the master seal Micaiah, Ilyana, Nolan and Aran stay down to kill the enemies there while Meg Leonardo and Edward cover ledges and Laura healing. Edward got the boss kill. I had bought another wind edge for Meg/Eddie. Bought Aran a forge.

Unit       Lvl HP ST MG SK SP LK DF RS   Support

Micaiah   6.22 15  3 12  9  9 14  3  9  A Sothe
Eddie    10.12 25 12  0 13 15 12  7  1  C Nolan
Leo       6.60 18  8  0 14 11  7  5  5  C Laura
Nolan    12.92 31 14  2 13 11  9 10  4  C Edward
Sothe     3.38 36 19  4 22 21 16 15 10  A Micaiah
Laura     3.66 17  4 10  5  6  8  3 10  C Leonardo 
Ilyana   13.99 23  9 15 14 16  7  4 11
Aran      8.99 24 11  0 13 11  7 12  2      
Meg       4.93 22 10  1  7  9  9 10  5 
Volug    15.05 Base Stats    

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Man, I wish I had a 16 speed Ilyana...

All she needs is speed data transfer and one speed level up but considering her 30% speed growth I must be very lucky :D. Even if she wouldn't double she has like 10% crit chance with the forge iirc > many of the DB right now.

Now im wondering how to complete 1-6-2 in 6 turns I always struggle with that chapter.

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Make sure that you save your game before you exit base for the first time. Once you exit the base, the stats for enemies get locked in. Only mentioning it because you said that you were resetting for a lower AS tiger.

About 1-6-2, the quickest clear that I know of involves having Jill airdrop someone (Tauroneo or Sothe) on the boss platform. Although because of the tier 1 training situation, sometimes it makes more sense to have Sothe bulldog his way over there on foot, with forged 1-2 range (you need a LOT of knife uses for 1-6, make more than you think you need), while your tier 1 guys get a little bit of CEXP.

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I'm actually stuck in 1-6-1

everything is fine up until turn 6 where reinforcements come in and there are two pegasus with javelins hit and run back and slow my progress because turn 7 comes with more reinforcements.

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Are you serious? :o

Well it mnakes me feel ridiculous how I planned Aran for an efficient playthrough and Nephenee for an unefficient playthrough :D.

BTW is Aran capped speed lagging in endgame? I sure hope he's going to be blessed or I'll have to leave him behind.

As another user said aran has major problems with speed in Endgame, Nephenee is that much better than him so i'd drop aran for nolan and think about neph if you have no other lancers.

I'm actually stuck in 1-6-1

everything is fine up until turn 6 where reinforcements come in and there are two pegasus with javelins hit and run back and slow my progress because turn 7 comes with more reinforcements.

stand in the middle of field so they cannot run back to cliffs and you could move volug out of the way and use sothe and tauroneo with knives/javs to kill, and make sure miccy and ilyana are rescued or out of the way, also if your jill is energy dropped and/or seraph robed(which i highly reccomend useing both)have her kill one or two on the cliffs.

thats my advice :D

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Chapter 1-6-1

Completed in 6 turns

13,650 funds

Well I managed to pass it my mistake was not moving Volug past the two knights in the way by turn 4. It was a lot easier to have Tauroneo take care of the right wing and Jill being around him that way I had more support on the left side. Volug first, then Sothe, and lastly Zihark took care of the left side while everyone else was grouping around Leo, Ilyana, Laura, and Micaiah and getting kills. I got a needless gameover and my mistake was trying to have Leo wall Meg when the pegasus didn't even double her much less deal the damage they do to Leo so he got killed for a stupid reason. Leo and Meg were mostly shove bots during this chapter. I followed the advice and bought another knife but this time only a bronze knife, and another mend for Laura. Found both items Ams Scroll (Zihark), and Coin (Meg). Volug gets renewal and Zihark gets resolve.

Unit       Lvl HP ST MG SK SP LK DF RS   Support

Micaiah   7.04 16  3 12 10 10 15  3 10  A Sothe
Eddie    10.40 25 12  0 13 15 12  7  1  C Nolan 
Leo       7.09 19  9  0 15 11  7  5  6  C Laura
Nolan    12.98 31 14  2 13 11  9 10  4  C Edward
Sothe     3.58 36 19  4 22 21 16 15 10  A Micaiah
Laura     4.26 17  4 11  6  7  8  3 11  C Leonardo
Ilyana   14.20 24 10 16 14 17  7  4 12
Aran      9.38 24 12  0 14 12  7 12  2      
Meg       5.34 22 11  1  7 10 10 10  6 
Volug    15.28 49 11  2 12 13 13  9  5
Jill     14.40 24 13  1 14 17 14 15  3
Zihark    3.31 30 17  6 22 23 11 13 11
Tauroneo 14.05 38 24 12 22 20 18 21 15 

Chapter 1-6-2

Completed in 5 turns

3,126 BEXP

13,650

I sent Volug and Jill to the right side and Zihark and Tauro to the left, everyone else killed the enemies that were close by. After that everyone headed to the left, but only Aran, Eddie, and Ilyana managed to get close enough to attack an enemy. Sothe found the master seal and Tauro got the boss kill although I had wanted Zihark to take it but he wasn't close enough. :(

Unit       Lvl HP ST MG SK SP LK DF RS   Support

Micaiah   7.42 16  3 12 10 10 15  3 10  A Sothe
Eddie    10.74 25 12  0 13 15 12  7  1  C Nolan
Leo       7.54 19  9  0 15 11  7  5  6  C Laura
Nolan    13.22 32 15  2 14 11 10 10  4  C Edward
Sothe     3.78 36 19  4 22 21 16 15 10  A Micaiah
Laura     4.73 17  4 11  6  7  8  3 11  C Leonardo  
Ilyana   14.64 24 10 16 14 17  7  4 12
Aran     10.31 25 13  0 15 13  7 13  2      
Meg       5.66 22 11  1  7 10 10 10  6 
Volug    15.33 49 11  2 12 13 13  9  5
Jill     15.29 25 14  1 14 18 14 15  3
Zihark    3.57 30 17  6 22 23 11 13 11
Tauroneo 14.40 38 24 12 22 20 18 21 15 

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This is what happens in efficient play: you get what kills that you can, and do what you're able with what you have.

And try to focus on raising like 2 guys, 3 at most. I raised 4 once and ended up around level 18.5 with them all at the end of 1-E.

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This is what happens in efficient play: you get what kills that you can, and do what you're able with what you have.

But I'm doing just about the same, and only using Volug and Zihark when it comes to doing it fast. I keep training my other characters in the meantime.

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I regret giving boss kills to Meg and Tauro that would seriously would have helped Edward/Aran alot in 1-4, Zihark in 1-6-2.

Idk how else to do it when a unit misses I have to use my backup thats one reason why Nolan is so underleveled maybe I should have bought him the skill ring in 1-7, and I'm planning on using bexp on him since I have plenty.

I also fed plenty of kills to Micaiah D: maybe I shouldn't have.

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