Gen 5 First Gym Leader

[Flying Shogi]

Ok, I just saw an update and it seems like the first Gym Leader might be Grass type. I feel as though that the Water type is at a bigger disadvantage compared classic to Fire type starters against Rock type Gyms.

The reason being I say that the Fire type are at a more advantage position than the new Water type starter is because Rock types are generally weak in the Sp.Def which can be dealt with Ember and some Potions.

However, most Grass types learn STAB moves such as Absorb(some even have acess to Status inflicting moves) early on which can be a pain to deal with especially with those Potions that the Leaders have and the lack of Full heals and other Status curing items during early game.

What do you guys think?

Edited August 27, 2010 by UberLughFTW

[TheEnd]

Might be a complete non-issue if the water starter happens to learn an ice move somewhat early.

It's nothing like in Yellow, at least.

[BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER]

It's nothing like in Yellow, at least.

In Yellow you literally need a Mankey with low kick to beat the first gym leader.

[Icon of Sin]

In Yellow you literally need a Mankey with low kick to beat the first gym leader.

Except when you had a Butterfree with Confusion.

Good times.

[BEST TRYNDAMERE PLAYER]

Except when you had a Butterfree with Confusion.

Good times.

Yeah but Mankey is much more effective, IMO. Also takes less effort to train as he comes right before Viridian Forest and can jump into much more trainer battles. You're bound to have gone through at least a couple of battles while trying to catch Caterpie.

[Icon of Sin]

Yeah but Mankey is much more effective, IMO. Also takes less effort to train as he comes right before Viridian Forest and can jump into much more trainer battles. You're bound to have gone through at least a couple of battles while trying to catch Caterpie.

To be fair I didn't know there was Mankeys there at first. Granted I also didn't know Butterfree was able to learn how to mind crush other monsters.

[Dr. Tarrasque]

Might be problematic for a Water starter solo if it lacks any Ice moves but otherwise, I'd expect there to be some flying type moves available early on, maybe even poison.

[Treasure Chest]

Luckily there are always plenty of Pokemon around, you don't have to only use your starter.

That said, I adore the idea of Smugleaf having it easy for the first Gym. Give that cocky little monster proof he's awesome.

[Flying Shogi]

Might be problematic for a Water starter solo if it lacks any Ice moves but otherwise, I'd expect there to be some flying type moves available early on, maybe even poison.

Let's hope so. Otherwise we're just going to be waisting time and precious EXP on it something that you might end up using as a HM Poke.

[TheEnd]

Let's hope so. Otherwise we're just going to be waisting time and precious EXP on it something that you might end up using as a HM Poke.

I didn't know earlygame experience was precious/rare.

[Flying Shogi]

I didn't know earlygame experience was precious/rare.

I wouldn't say it's rare but it is precious, at least IMO. I don't like wasting EXP on Pokes that I'm only going to use once so I think EXP are precious.

Edited August 27, 2010 by UberLughFTW

[riariadne]

In Yellow you literally need a Mankey with low kick to beat the first gym leader.

With a lot of luck and potions I did it with a lv 16 Pikachu once.

[Flying Shogi]

In Yellow you literally need a Mankey with low kick to beat the first gym leader.

Or you can catch a Nidroan(F)/(M) and train it to Level 12 to learn Double Kick.