Kay Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Berserker and Wyvern Knight are good, I would guess, but which others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Anything with high caps. General is the first that comes to mind but both Great Lords would work. I'd also go with Hero too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Ephraim does not have high caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Cold Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Berserkers are topnotch. I ussually went Ewan- Amelia - Ross - Garcia - Dozla - Ewan Ewan: Super trainee (more speed), S anime Amelia: General, S spear Ross: Berserker, S Axe Garcia: Warrior, S bow A Axe Dozla:Berserker S Axe/S Dark (Dark if both accept the stone glitch thingy) also if they are all lvl 1, it means pierce has 19% less chance of activating (iirc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) Berserker, General (F), Japanese Super Trainees, Super Pupil, Warrior, then other acceptable classes to finish support triangles. Generally you'd be looking at the three trainees (General, Berserker, Pupil) and two others to finish supports. Wyvern Knights are pretty mediocre. While defence negation is nice, it's a 20% chance and 28 SPD isn't doubling except potentially Gilliam, but he has 20% Great Shield as well (so a combined 29.5% chance of getting one Pierce in). And with Wyvern Knights otherwise mediocre stats and Lance Lock, they aren't doing a ton of other things. Edit: Great Shield is a 1% chance for 20/1 units. Which you kinda want, because Generals aren't uncommon. Edited November 9, 2010 by I Eat Tables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venusaur Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 This is the only part of Sacred Stones which Seth doesn't dominate! Assassins are probably less useful due to Nidhogg and high Luck. Garm!Berserker is insane, doubling everything 29 SPD and below, and General Amelia can get 34 DEF and 25 SPD. Ephraim is useless with his 24 SPD... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Wyvern Knights are pretty mediocre. While defence negation is nice, it's a 20% chance and 28 SPD isn't doubling except potentially Gilliam, but he has 20% Great Shield as well (so a combined 29.5% chance of getting one Pierce in). And with Wyvern Knights otherwise mediocre stats and Lance Lock, they aren't doing a ton of other things. 29 speed for females, I believe, and with Vidofnir or something they can be pretty tough to crack. Also Axereaver is viable for link arena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I usually go with: super trainee!Ewan (for dark magic) general!Gilliam (for axes and great shield) assassin!Colm (swords) wyvern knight!Vanessa (lances) ranger!Neimi (bows, believe it or not, they can be useful sometimes~) or SM!Joshua (hat) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Ranger is also a good class. Enough speed to avoid getting doubled by a Garm Berserker and Sword access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byte2222 Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) I'm a little surprised how much everyone likes super pupil!Ewan, his con is low enough that he's getting significant speed penalties from dark tomes, his speed cap's not that high and he probably won't even reach it without speedwings (plural). Am I missing something here? Do you tower/ruins abuse for stat boosters, is speed not important or is Luna/Nosferatu really that good? I'm just a tad confused. Edited November 11, 2010 by Byte2222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 I'm a little surprised how much everyone likes super pupil!Ewan, his con is low enough that he's getting significant speed penalties from dark tomes, his speed cap's not that high and he probably won't even reach it without speedwings (plural). Am I missing something here? Do you tower/ruins abuse for stat boosters, is speed not important or is Luna/Nosferatu really that good? I'm just a tad confused. 1: Link Arena. So max stats including CON 2: Nobody uses Dark tomes anyway. 3: It's his caps that really matter, as well as supports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byte2222 Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 1: Link Arena. So max stats including CON 2: Nobody uses Dark tomes anyway. 3: It's his caps that really matter, as well as supports. Got it, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffen78 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 if no one uses dark tomes why not just go sage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Because the caps for Pupil are better. Still. Stat |Pupil| Sage MAG | 29 | 28 SKL | 28 | 30 SPD | 27 | 26 DEF | 21 | 21 RES | 26 | 25 All Sage has is 2 SKL, but in return loses 1 MAG and 1 SPD. That SPD doesn't do anything too significant except a small avoid boost* (31 SPD isn't getting doubled, 32 SPD only also doubles Wyvern Knight (M) and Garm-less Berserker - although in 2 Berserker teams, this is possible) but 1 MAG is nice. I can't be bothered to go through and calculate if 1 extra MAG makes any combo-kills easier etc. but my guess is it might do. *[spoiler=Avoid consideration]A boost of 2 avoid can be good if Ewan has decent avoid already (Ewan with Amelia and Ross gets +12 avoid, so he's sporting 106 avoid or 104 avoid depending on Class - compared to say, General Amelia w/Vidofnir or Audhulma who would have 171 hit - so the difference between 57% hit and 55% hit, which in terms of TH is 63.45% to 59.95%. Or in other words Pupil Ewan would dodge 5.5% of attacks Amelia made that would have otherwise hit. Small difference, but could be significant - moreso if Amelia loses some support or someone with slightly less Skill attacks him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Because the caps for Pupil are better. Still. Stat |Pupil| Sage MAG | 29 | 28 SKL | 28 | 30 SPD | 27 | 26 DEF | 21 | 21 RES | 26 | 25 All Sage has is 2 SKL, but in return loses 1 MAG and 1 SPD. That SPD doesn't do anything too significant except a small avoid boost* (31 SPD isn't getting doubled, 32 SPD only also doubles Wyvern Knight (M) and Garm-less Berserker - although in 2 Berserker teams, this is possible) but 1 MAG is nice. I can't be bothered to go through and calculate if 1 extra MAG makes any combo-kills easier etc. but my guess is it might do. *[spoiler=Avoid consideration]A boost of 2 avoid can be good if Ewan has decent avoid already (Ewan with Amelia and Ross gets +12 avoid, so he's sporting 106 avoid or 104 avoid depending on Class - compared to say, General Amelia w/Vidofnir or Audhulma who would have 171 hit - so the difference between 57% hit and 55% hit, which in terms of TH is 63.45% to 59.95%. Or in other words Pupil Ewan would dodge 5.5% of attacks Amelia made that would have otherwise hit. Small difference, but could be significant - moreso if Amelia loses some support or someone with slightly less Skill attacks him What about the loss in skill? Is that not as important as the avoid and attack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Good point, I forgot to note that down. And in fact, I was going to point out that might actually go some way to balancing the two classes. 4 hit could make a big difference against another high avoid unit, which are common in LA. This could actually be more complicated than I initially thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJP28 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Ephraim does not have high caps. lol he has the lowest cap from FE6 and up other than unpromoted units. Ranger, Swordmaster is alright, Pupil!!Ewan, General!Amelia, Assassin!Colm with support Neimi and Killing Edge. The three trainees with support. Just about all units are usable except for mounted units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueblade Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I always used third teir Ross, Amelia, and Ewan, triangle supported with Joshua and Natasha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moss-Head Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I don't like Natasha in LA. She always dies on the first turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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