Haze Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 So, 8 negative cards played. Kevin + JB = 5 Kevin + Rein = 9 Kevin + RD = 5 JB + RD = 4 JB + Rein = 8 RD + Rein = 8 and for good measure: Kevin + JB + RD = 7 Thus, Rein is confirmed Toaster, the second contributor could be any of you other fuckers tbh. On and in before Rein played that TAC-5 month 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 inb4 rein played all of those TRE cards. On and in before Rein played that TAC-5 month 1. If you're interested, the chance that you're a cylon has now decreased. What to, however, I do not know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Ignore my previous post, I derped and thought it was LEA/POL. Now then, if I understand correctly - We're saying Rein saved up all of his Piloting Skills and converted them all to TRE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 We're saying Rein saved up all of his Piloting Skills and converted them all to TRE? No, that was a joke. It is very unlikely that he actually did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Well, RD has no TRE to play since he passed them over to Wen early on, so he didn't contribute to our demise here, and is practically guaranteed to have played two of the LEA-4's. Kevin played in 3 cards, if we believe he's not a toaster, he has to have played in the remaining 3 LEA cards. This would mean that JB with his 5 TAC played the two TAC cards. This would mean that the skill distribution was this: LEA-2 - Kevin LEA-4 - Kevin LEA-4 - Kevin LEA-4 - RD LEA-4 - RD TAC-3 - JB TAC-4 - JB TRE-2 - Rein TRE-2 - Rein TRE-3 - Rein TRE-3 - Rein TRE-3 - Rein TRE-3 - Rein Now, if we actually believe that Rein ISN'T a cylon, and only used his piloting to add LEA and TAC, then that would mean this is what happened: LEA-2 - Kevin LEA-4 - Rein LEA-4 - Rein LEA-4 - Rein LEA-4 - Rein TAC-3 - Rein TAC-4 - Rein TRE-2 - Kevin TRE-2 - Kevin TRE-3 - RD TRE-3 - RD TRE-3 - JB TRE-3 - JB Note that this is impossible because RD has no TRE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 This would mean that JB with his 5 TAC played the two TAC cards Doesn't this assume JB is inno? Rein could've played one of the TAC from his piloting and JB a TRE. Though I guess if rein put in 5 TRE he might as well not put in anything positive. So yeah, It looks like that is what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 (edited) Well, bottom line is that Rein has to be a toaster simply because RD has no TRE. Kevin and JB couldn't have played all 6 TRE cards., which means Rein has to have played some of not all of them. Edited June 3, 2011 by Ceadeus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Additionally now that we've lost 1 population it's likely the cylons will aim to destroy that over our morale, so we should ensure we don't lose any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share Posted June 4, 2011 ...Population and Morale instead start from 4 (and so both resources are lowered by one). In addition, Executions DO NOT affect morale any more... This is where the other Pop and Morale went. Also a few rules questions and stuff to clarify: Revealed Cylons are immune to generally most things that can target players. Exceptions are generally things like crises that say 'draw treachery' and the like. Not that anyone is revealing as a Cylon or that there's likely a Cylon around at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wen Yang Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Damn it... Good point: We now KNOW one Cylon. Bad point: We lost 1 population. Also, Said Cylon is likely to reveal himself this night. On the plus side, I think we might have solved the mystery on who ****ed us up on month one. Probably. Drawing two cards this round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Before I start spraying ketchup, lemme make sure my hand list is accurate. I want to make sure that there was only one possible source of those TRE cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wen Yang Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Well, Haze's theory makes sense to me, and fits my hand list too. Either Rein is a Cylon... Or Kevin, RD, JB, and I are the four Cylons. And judging from how much TREs were spent, I am inclined to believe that this is a Solo-action by Rein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Eclipse, execute Rein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybee Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Or alternatively, I could brig him instead and Eclipse can save up her skill for later. This also lets her discard her 2 cards, lol. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 I KNOW WHAT'S MISSING! Tables, can you post who drew what at the end of the action phase of Round 4? I want to draw a definitive conclusion before I use my ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share Posted June 4, 2011 Agh, good catch. Um, I can try... I believe everyone drew the two skills in their skill set, except: BK-201 (Zarek) drew POL, LEA Eclipse (Cally) drew POL, LEA WoMC (Leoben) drew TAC, then GtFoG'd TAC RD (Ellen) passed a skill to Kevin (Roslin) and drew 2 POL, 1 LEA. If someone knows they did something that wasn't just drawing can you point it out, since it should have been public information. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Well, at least the one LEA skill I didn't play wouldn't have put us over the threshold... When do Cylons reveal, and when can eclipse use her ability? If we can brig Lightning before he can reveal, we should do that so eclipse can save her ability. If not, using it to prevent Lightning from revealing sounds like a good course of action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wen Yang Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 From what Tables says, I think Eclipse needs to wait till the next crisis phase to use her ability. Not sure when the Reveal could happen. And I'm pretty sure we can't brig Anyone till next crisis phase. Also, guys, I hope you know what you're doing by releasing excellen. I'm still unsure whether he's clear or a Cylon, but either way, he now has extra oomph since his skills are now at 1.5x normal power, rounded down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) Also, guys, I hope you know what you're doing by releasing excellen. I'm still unsure whether he's clear or a Cylon, but either way, he now has extra oomph since his skills are now at 1.5x normal power, rounded down. No. Brigged: Skills halved, rounded down. Released: Skills doubled minus one. His skills will actually be weaker. Edited June 5, 2011 by Ceadeus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Released: Skills doubled minus one. His skills will actually be weaker. What do you mean by this? Doubled minus one is obviously higher than original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 What do you mean by this? Doubled minus one is obviously higher than original. Sigh. Say I get brigged with this hand: TAC-6, TAC-4, TAC-3, LEA-3, LEA-5 I get brigged, skills halved. TAC-3, TAC-2, TAC-1, LEA-1, LEA-2 I get released, skills doubled -1. TAC-5, TAC-3, TAC-1, LEA-1, LEA-3 Get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I would assume the original values are doubled, and the first post doesn't make it clear either way (that I saw). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 That would be rather silly, the skills themselves are halved(as well as any more drawn cards), so when they're doubled, it should be doubling the current value, which is half of the original one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) Besides, can you imagine how broken it would be if it doubled the original value? Brig me - double all of my TAC/LEA 5's/6's(note: hypothetical, I'm not saying I have those.) It would be beneficial to be brigged, when it's supposed to be detrimental. Edited June 5, 2011 by Ceadeus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wen Yang Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 No. It would ONLY be beneficial if you're RELEASED after you've been brigged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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