Lilmik11 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Btw, is it okay if I start to log my progress? I already started and I'm on to 1-4 :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) What is there to argue? All I said was Geoffrey might get pick over Fiona or Kurth and u can't deny that possibility. And I am glad you realize this is a draft where units get pick for what they can do for the player's team not what they can possibly do. Can you really say Fiona will help save turn count for each individual's team? or are you going give me that if the player isn't an idiot crap that she can help shave off turns in part 4? Cuz I can say you are an idiot if your team at this point needs more manpower. You tell me what there is to argue, because right now it seems like you're arguing about whether Fiona saves turns, as well as why you said Geoffrey would get picked over Fiona or Kurth if you weren't trying to defend him staying draftable like Lilmik thought. Of course Fiona can save turns for each individuals team. Everyone needs help in 3-6 and 3-12 (where she is great). No matter what your team she can, if used correctly save turns there. She could also help save turns on Ike's route in part 4 (or wherever). Everyone could use more manpower in part 4 anyway due to high enemy density and all maps being route, so you'd be wrong if you said that. Edited September 6, 2011 by Xanderdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Btw, is it okay if I start to log my progress? I already started and I'm on to 1-4 :). lol why the heck not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Princess Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 @Xander since I have Titanic i'm sending Fio to Hawk team ^^' and if Geo is free so it doesn't even matter because he's not getting picked. Also this is a NM draft, obviously most units are raised and given resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) She already went with Stefan. =P ...And I got Ninja'd, so this whole post is relatively irrelevant. Cuz I can say you are an idiot if your team at this point needs more manpower. And I can say you're an idiot if you think that we don't need all of the help we can get for the Part 4 rout maps. Whether or not Fiona is able to get up to par for Part 4 is up for debate, but I would assume it's very possible. Everyone needs help in 3-6 and 3-12 (where she is great). While I understand your "where she is great" comment is directed towards her 3-12 performance, I'd just like to point out that Fiona is nigh useless in 3-6. Edited September 6, 2011 by Radiant Kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Princess Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Xander has used Fiona before i'm sure he knows what he's talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Xander has used Fiona before i'm sure he knows what he's talking about. But PEMN...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 But PEMN...! ...Means a lot more in drafts than it does while debating Tier Lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 While I understand your "where she is great" comment is directed towards her 3-12 performance, I'd just like to point out that Fiona is nigh useless in 3-6. I wouldn't say that exactly. Sure she can't travel through the swamp but she can still get the laguz that make it onto your units' initial island. She got at least 5 kills in my Yet Another RD draft in that chapter iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I wouldn't say that exactly. Sure she can't travel through the swamp but she can still get the laguz that make it onto your units' initial island. She got at least 5 kills in my Yet Another RD draft in that chapter iirc. That's why I said 'nigh useless'. Fiona does little, if anything, to speed up the completion of 3-6 for most, if not all, teams. I haven't checked, but I'm sure your other units could have gotten those 5 or so kills and still finish in the same timeframe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmik11 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) I don't know. It's not everybody who's done drafting, because usually I wait for people to finish picking before loging. Anyway, for this draft, I decided I am going to give more details. I thought about this after looking at Elincia's logs, which btw are some of my favorites to read. 1-Prologue Blah blah blah. Edward uses wrath to kill ennemies, Miccy take the few leftovers. It was pretty up to the RNG at some point because of the 40-50% hit rates of the bandits on Eddie. I still did it. Unit Lvl HP Str Spd Mag Skl Lck Def Res Micaiah 02 16 02 07 07 09 10 02 05 6 turns 1-Chapter 1 Nolan tries to encounter as many ennemies as possible for the first EP. Then, he, Miccy and Edward rout them. After that, everyone advances AFAP. On turn 6, Nolan wait right in front of the boss. During the EP he damages him enough so that he could kill him at turn 7. Then, Miccy escaped Unit Lvl HP Str Spd Mag Skl Lck Def Res Micaiah 03 17 03 08 08 10 11 02 06 Nolan 10 30 13 10 01 12 07 09 03 7 turns 1-Chapter 2 Edward went up the ledge so that he could take care of some fighters while Miccy and Nolan tag-teamed on the rest of them. Then, Sothe appeared and took care of the ennemies at the top, while getting the energy drop. During this time, Nolan got Thani. At turn 8, Laura arrived. Unit Lvl HP Str Spd Mag Skl Lck Def Res Micaiah 04 17 03 08 09 11 12 02 07 Nolan 11 31 14 11 02 13 08 11 03 (Dracoshield) Sothe Base 8 turns 1-Chapter 3 Nolan and Sothe used the chokepoint to defend the groupe while Micaiah killed the leftovers. Then, the great trio took the left path, which is just as fast as the right path IMO, to clear some ennemies. On turn 6, Sothe stole Discipline from the boss and Micaiah 1HKO'ed him. Then, on turn 8 Sothe parked himself across the armor in front of the escape. He killed him on turn 8 EP, and then on PP he killed the archer, which let Miccy escape easily. Unit Lvl HP Str Spd Mag Skl Lck Def Res Micaiah 06 17 03 09 10 11 13 02 09 Nolan 12 31 14 11 02 14 09 11 04 Sothe Base 9 turns Total until now: 30 turns. Edited September 6, 2011 by Lilmik11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Princess Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Thank you Lilmik ^^' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Hey Mik why aren't my logs your favorites, they have detail and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmik11 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) Hey Mik why aren't my logs your favorites, they have detail and all. I don't know. I know they do have details, it's just that Elincia's are more memorable. But yours are a great example too :) Edit: Who should I give 1-2's Energy Drop? Nolan or keep it for part 3 and give it to Mist? Anyway, GreenOyster picked Gareth. Edited September 6, 2011 by Lilmik11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Nolan all the way. Im finishing part 1. Im at 1-8 when im done ill be back with my log. And u better say u like it lilmik lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Save it for Mist. Nolan doesn't need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmik11 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 I think I'm going to save it for Mist.Thanks guys :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 But Mist wont help even if u give her that drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I'd say save it for Nephenee or Lucia before giving it to Nolan or Mist. Nolan likely won't need it, and Mist is useless regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Think of it, he drafted Mist for a reason. And since this in NM, it's likely that'll he use her in combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilmik11 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Share Posted September 6, 2011 Combat+Healing\Restore is what Mist is gonna be for.Nephenee and Nolan will do well without it.I forgot about Lucia.She may need it.Anyway,I'm gonna keep it and think about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Think of it, he drafted Mist for a reason. And since this in NM, it's likely that'll he use her in combat. Mist is hopeless as a combatant without a lot of reset-abuse for Strength and durability. BEXP gets her nothing she needs except Speed without lots of abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xander Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) I had to log in just to lol at using Mist as a combatant and spending an Energy Drop on her over Nolan. That's a really bad idea. Really guys? Also @implying Nolan wouldn't put the energy drop to good use in turning 2HKOs into OHKOs in part 3 as opposed to saving it for Lucia in part 4 or using it on Mist. Edited September 6, 2011 by Xanderdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 How do I put that Ilyana smiley I keep seeing in drafts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 (edited) Also @implying Nolan wouldn't put the energy drop to good use in turning 2HKOs into OHKOs in part 3 as opposed to saving it for Lucia in part 4 or using it on Mist. While that isn't a bad use, wouldn't turning 3HKOs for Nephenee and Lucia into 2HKOs (mostly concerned with 2-range here) be a better use? How do I put that Ilyana smiley I keep seeing in drafts? The smiley button has it. You need to click 'show all' and go down a bit, though. Edited September 6, 2011 by Radiant Kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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