XiSrOn Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) Jake is now Beck. (jk) Sal asked me to screw him over, right? What better pick than the other terribad cavalier of C5? Vyland please. Vyland has already been taken. I was behind on the units list again, since I keep remembering to update the other parts and forget that one. Oh god Curate Vyland... AMAZING!Also, how does one have draug as hero AND sorcerer?Are there any 0 % Str/Spd growth chars left? Fixed. It's supposed to be Dolph, but I was tired when I edited it. Edited September 24, 2011 by XiSrOn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Well, With Curate as the only open spot, I pick Elice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiSrOn Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Elice is a cleric by default. I'll take Boah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciarre Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Boah is now your pally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiSrOn Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 Midia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) Midia is now a Sage. EDIT: Whoops. Forgot to pick. I want Ymir. Edited September 25, 2011 by 13thshadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Is the drafter of Tiki allowed to use an undrafted royal cleric for free for tiki's falchion trick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Is the drafter of Tiki allowed to use an undrafted royal cleric for free for tiki's falchion trick? It would have to be Elice. Maria, Minerva, and Caeda all start at D/E staves . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiSrOn Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 Is the drafter of Tiki allowed to use an undrafted royal cleric for free for tiki's falchion trick? I'm leaning toward no since the falchion trick isn't required - it's just a nice bonus if you set it up right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Um... 24x is mandatory... Gotoh is banned. We need to get rid of Falchion & tiki. If you drafted Tiki, you need to get her back. And she has to be killed no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiSrOn Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 She's still available for 20-24 though - so it's not as if she has no chance to make any contribution whatsoever. To handicap one unit would would also require consideration that other units be handicapped also. If this had been mentioned as a possibility before Elice had even the vaguest possibility of being chosen (pre-round 6), I would be more open to considering it, but changing this now would almost nullify 13th's pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 How 'bout making Elice free for only Aum staff use? She starts at A, so it shouldn't be a problem. That means getting the Aum staff, and that takes extra turns anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiSrOn Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 How 'bout making Elice free for only Aum staff use? She starts at A, so it shouldn't be a problem. That means getting the Aum staff, and that takes extra turns anyway. The issue with that is that we don't know the motivation for 13th's pick (unless he chooses to reveal it) - he may have made the pick with the intent of falchion-tricking and by making it available to everyone it devalues his pick. If this had been mentioned before Elice was in the realm of pickability - let alone picked - I would have considered it, but it's too late now. It's definitely something to consider adding to for future drafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 From what I can tell, he made that pick so that he wouldn't be stuck with Jeorge the Bishop or something equally cringe-worthy. . .but I'll be more than happy to see what he has to say about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiSrOn Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) From what I can tell, he made that pick so that he wouldn't be stuck with Jeorge the Bishop or something equally cringe-worthy. . .but I'll be more than happy to see what he has to say about it! I see both Matthis and Wrys as valid staffbotters due to superior availability - even Linde, despite costing turns, would be a more valid pure-staffbot pick.. Growths Name HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Wrys 20 0 20 20 20 40 0 45 Matthis 70 10 10 20 30 30 5 35 Linde 40 0 30 35 40 60 0 35 Elice 60 0 30 50 60 80 0 30 Considering how Wrys and Matthis both have magic growths - wouldn't they be valid staffbot picks due to their vastly superior availability? (not to mention their lower turn costs than Jeorge) Edited September 25, 2011 by XiSrOn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Wrys and Linde cost turns, and trust me when I say staffer Matthis is painful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiSrOn Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 Wrys and Linde cost turns, and trust me when I say staffer Matthis is painful. I'd say all three are better options than Jeorge, since you wouldn't even recruit him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Under most circumstances, yes. But if it's between him and, say, Bantu, guess who I'm picking? Both cost the same amount of turns, recruit-wise, but I don't need to take extra turns to give Jeorge weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiSrOn Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 Well, this draft you aren't required to recruit people, so if it was down to Bantu v. Jeorge it wouldn't matter who you pick - since you wouldn't recruit either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Thank goodness! I'd still wait for 13th to give his input. He was on earlier, but. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I wanted a healer that isn't a terrible healer, as my cleric spot was left. That, and she's pretty good after an early promo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 CLIPSEY! RECLASS YMIR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Oh crap! 'Zerker Ymir! Is it my turn to pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiSrOn Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 Oh crap! 'Zerker Ymir! Is it my turn to pick? Yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Matthis, and THIS time, you can't mess with him too badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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