Pull My Devil Trigger Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Yes. Quick claw and evasion have nothing to do with each other >_> No They are both things that could turn a battle one sided based on chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Also, Conkeldurr with only fighting moves, Calm Mind Infernape that apparently lacks special moves (didn't get to see its fourth move, and the other moves it had were physical), and sending in Alakazam on Galvantula to try to revenge kill it. Oh, and Cloyster out speeding Rotom-H. I seriously wish I was joking... Edited March 25, 2014 by Levant Caprice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Also, Conkeldurr with only fighting moves, Calm Mind Infernape that apparently lacks special moves (didn't get to see its fourth move, and the other moves it had were physical), and sending in Alakazam on Galvantula to try to revenge kill it. Oh, and Cloyster out speeding Rotom-H. I seriously wish I was joking... This is nothing but a train wreck.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-102264184 Some dude tried ye olde Entranment Durant + Dugtrio trick. Only problem? He tried to trap Vivillon. Later on, DIGGERSBY THO. (No clue why the Machamp didn't just D-Punch it.) Edited March 25, 2014 by Levant Caprice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 .... This is pure stupidity http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-102264184 Some dude tried ye olde Entranment Durant + Dugtrio trick. Only problem? He tried to trap Vivillon. Later on, DIGGERSBY THO. (No clue why the Machamp didn't just D-Punch it.) Dynamicpunch isn't reliable though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeDusk Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Machamp has No Guard, an ability that makes all moves have perfect accuracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Oh yeah. The thing that makes Machamp OU in the first place(I think?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Oh yeah. The thing that makes Machamp OU in the first place(I think?) Yes. That's basically the only thing that makes Machamp OU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Yes. That's basically the only thing that makes Machamp OU Figured. Because Defense and Speed are lacking. Machamp would be in like what, NU or RU if it didn't have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeDusk Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Probably UU I might be talking out of my ass, but it's got half-decent bulk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 True, it could stand, 1-2 hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) I see. http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-102409992 You know there are issues when you see the Quick Claw on the Infernape. And that's just the tip of the iceberg... Why give Garchomp Outrage? Someone could just throw a fairy type in (Which is a common type used now since it never has been a type in any other gen before this one) and Garchomp is then screwed, because you cannot switch him out while your Poke is Outraging. I thought Quick Claw was banned on Smogon :/ It is. But it sucks anyways when a Choice Scarf does alot better job. 1. Not now. It's banned. 2. Why would they ban such a crappy and unreliable item? 3. Infernape's speed is huge. It's a waste of item slot. And it only activates 20% of the time. that's terrible even on a slow pokemon 1. Of course. It is one of the deadliest sweepers in the game like Groudon! (Groudon Rock Polish+EQ. Kills many teams with minimal effort) Choice Scarf+U-Turn Rock Polish+Good enough bulk to set up one and+Attk. 2. Because the battle can turn in your favor even though it's active rate is very low. 3. It's better to have a Choice Band. Choice Band+Close Combat is powerful enough to even 2HKO Registeel the utmost defensive poke in the game! Also, same dude had Quick Claw Garchomp that was running both Dragon Claw and Outrage.. Why Outrage? it sucks in Gen VI. Edited March 25, 2014 by Dark_Huntress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Outrage has always sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondworld Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Outrage has always sucked. I'm going to assume this is sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Nope. David go back to being FULL ZEBRA POWER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondworld Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Nope. David go back to being FULL ZEBRA POWER Outrage is very good ...eh..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Define good. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeDusk Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Well dragon claw isn't the strongest of moves Dragon rush sucks due to accuracy Outrage can turn 3HKOs into 2HKOs and the such; nobody wants to switch into something that has, at minimum, 394 attack that's throwing out STAB outrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Outrage doesn't suck lol It was broken in gen IV, excellent last gen and is still great Edited March 25, 2014 by Your Mother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Well dragon claw isn't the strongest of moves Dragon rush sucks due to accuracy Outrage can turn 3HKOs into 2HKOs and the such; nobody wants to switch into something that has, at minimum, 394 attack that's throwing out STAB outrage True. But not going to happen with my dragons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Outrage doesn't suck lol It was broken in gen IV, excellent last gen and is still great Gen V...it was broken along with a Dragon Gem, or Moxie, both. Gen VI, your screwed if they throw a Fairy type in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Masayoshi Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Outrage doesn't suck lol It was broken in gen IV, excellent last gen and is still great Not willing to take the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondworld Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 ? I just didn't feel like keeping the FULL ZEBRA POWER theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Gen V...it was broken along with a Dragon Gem, or Moxie, both. Gen VI, your screwed if they throw a Fairy type in. the rampage ends if you hit a fairy, so it isn't THAT much of a deal Not willing to take the risk. Which risks? It's not thunder or focus miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Gen V, Outraged Moxie Gyarados/Salamance were recommendations for the Battle Subway as with a Dragon Gem for it's held item, it could clean out many teams with minimal effort. Edited March 25, 2014 by Dark_Huntress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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