Andreyas Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 So Dragon Knights will be able to go Dragon Master or Gryphon Knights. I have to say I like this concept of another flying class. I wonder what kind of cool skills it'll have? What about weapons? Could it be an Axe, Sword user or maybe just a plain old Axe user? What are your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I hope it's Swords + Axes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velth Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Well by the looks of it they have axes seeing as it is the initial weapon of the wyvern riders so i guess the other physical weapon types will be distributed among them and wyvern lords i think they'll get swords but it's too early to tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Maybe they'll just raze their enemies with talons and feathers. And hatch baby griffins all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 So far, split promotions have often been having substantial differences, like picking up magic or staffs, or a physical weapon for a magic user. So while we might see this, Dragon Knight (lance) --> Dragon Master (lance/axe) / Griffin Knight (sword/axe) it seems like a rather trivial difference. On the other hand, I don't have any better ideas. So chances are, they will do this, but differentiate the classes more in other ways. The different mounts give them excuses to have different weaknesses, and substantially different stats and skills. So we'll probably be seeing them differentiated through things along those lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone2Ground Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I baselessly speculate that Gryphons will have a higher move, while Dragon Masters will have higher DEF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I baselessly speculate that Gryphons will have a higher move, while Dragon Masters will have higher DEF It's a definite possibility, if Dragon Masters stay at 7 Move for extra abilities. Sounds kinda like Paladin vs. Great Knight, although I don't think Dragon Masters will get the whole triangle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZephyrD Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) So far, split promotions have often been having substantial differences, like picking up magic or staffs, or a physical weapon for a magic user. So while we might see this, Dragon Knight (lance) --> Dragon Master (lance/axe) / Griffin Knight (sword/axe) it seems like a rather trivial difference. On the other hand, I don't have any better ideas. So chances are, they will do this, but differentiate the classes more in other ways. The different mounts give them excuses to have different weaknesses, and substantially different stats and skills. So we'll probably be seeing them differentiated through things along those lines. Dragon Master is definitely confirmed for Axe (seen here: http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=173738 2:50 in) do we have any info on whether or not Dragon Knight is Lance or Axe yet? Furthermore, don't forget that in addition to the possible Dragon = thunder weakness and Gryphon = wind weakness, there's also skills to consider. Classes get different skills as they level up. Hot Start - Hit and Avoid +15 at the start of the chapter. Effect decreases with each passing Turn - Dragonmaster Sword Slayer - Hit and Avoid +50 when the enemy is equipped with a sword - Dragonmaster It's quite likely Gryphon Knight may not have access to these, or other skills, while having access to different once, for example. Edited March 28, 2012 by ZephyrShakuraus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) I did mention skills. We've seen some dragon-riding character that didn't look as fancy using an axe, from what I remember. So it sounds like they do start with axes, as I'd expect - they made that change in FE10, the last time they had the choice, and it makes sense, to make the flying classes not overly similar. Edited March 29, 2012 by Othin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Princess Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 there are gryphon knights in this game? ;W; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shun One Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Perhaps Griffin Knights will also have the Pegasus' weakness of arrows? I don't think it's too far fetched seeing how most unit types in the series with feathery wings do not like arrows. I imagine them being the fastest of the flyers. Like the rest of you, I have absolutely nothing to base this assumption off of. Othin is probably right with the sword/axe combination for their weapons. We'll have to see what other abilities they have when more information is released Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Chances are, dragons will still be arrow-weak, like every game other than FE10. Them not being arrow-weak was a bit much. Hmm... Pegasi - arrows, wind magic, horseslayers Dragons - arrows, thunder magic, wyrmslayers Griffins - arrows, fire magic, beastkillers Perhaps something to this effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Does anyone think Gryphon Knight might be like Dark Pegasus and gain magic on promotion? I would certainly prefer that over swords, since for a long time now axes have been far better than swords in FE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shun One Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Seems about right Othin. I forgot Beast Killer was a weapon in this game. Let's hope that things work better from this time around and we have a reason to utilize these weaknesses more often. I'm not sure if I want to see two flying magic classes. One seems unique enough and adding two would detract from that me thinks. That's not to say it would entirely ruin Dark Pegasus, just make it a lot less unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Mecha Death Christ Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I wonder when Gryphon's evolved on Marth-land. Or maybe they just never mention them. Or maybe they came from Barencia and Anna brought them over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Well, they can easily just pull a rabbit-trick and say they always existed. The wolf ragz were like this in FE10, and the Nabata folks in FE6/7. Provincialism keeps information out of the loop, yo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eail Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I've actually had the theory that Gryphon Knights might be able to use bows, considering that Dark Pegasus Knights can use magic it shouldn't be to far fetched that they could use their other weakness as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'm not sure if I want to see two flying magic classes. One seems unique enough and adding two would detract from that me thinks. That's not to say it would entirely ruin Dark Pegasus, just make it a lot less unique. Agreed completely. I've actually had the theory that Gryphon Knights might be able to use bows, considering that Dark Pegasus Knights can use magic it shouldn't be to far fetched that they could use their other weakness as well. That was my thought when the class was first announced, but with Dracoknights using axes primarily, that would wind up just turning them into flying Warriors. Of course, the alternative pretty much entails turning them into flying Heroes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewjeo Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Giving gryphons bows sounds pretty pointless to me unless enemy flyers become more threatening so having someone be able to come from outside their range and take them on without a counter is actually helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Anything mattering is dependent on enemies being threatening enough. The game promises a Lunatic mode, and based on what we've seen from such modes recently, it should deliver on that promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 What? Falcoknights are in this game, I think they can use Lances and Staves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 (edited) EDIT: oh wait, there IS falcoknight class. For some reason I assumed pegasus riders could promote into Gryphons, guess who was wrong BAH Yeah, Griffin Knights are a Dracoknight promotion. Pegasus Knight (lance) --> Falcon Knight (lance/staff) / Dark Pegasus (lance/tome) Dracoknight (axe) --> Dragonmaster (lance/axe?) / Griffin Knight (sword/axe?) Edited March 30, 2012 by Othin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyFireMage Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Think we'll get a base Griffin Rider class to go along with the Griffon Knight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreyas Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 We can't know for sure, but I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velth Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 (edited) We can't know for sure, but I don't think so. actually we kinda do since the gryphons are a promotion choice for dracoknights, also it would be incredibly redundant to have a third 1st tier flying class Edited March 30, 2012 by Velth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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