Excellen Browning Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 By and large, however, most didn't wear armor of a thicker variety, and those that did were generally mounted. Either way you wouldn't be finding armies of men advancing on an opponent with a wall of stabbing swords. It simply did not happen. I have never read of this anywhere. Where did you hear this from? No most didn't wear the best and expensive armor. And no you wouldn't walk into a wall of swords. You'd walk into a wall of pikes or maybe spears, after which these formations would be broken up(most famously by the zweihänder-wielding dopplesöldner) and charged by cavalry or the second infantry line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) No most didn't wear the best and expensive armor. And no you wouldn't walk into a wall of swords. You'd walk into a wall of pikes or maybe spears, after which these formations would be broken up(most famously by the zweihänder-wielding dopplesöldner) and charged by cavalry or the second infantry line. The formations could be broken up, but the enemy closing in was not desirable and did not always happen as you are saying. Even when they did, most soldiers did not use a weapon strictly used for thrusting like some dueling weapons you seem to be talking about. And that charging pikes with zweihanders bit is often disputed, isn't it? Edited April 21, 2012 by Esau of Isaac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 But rarely does anyone ever get in close because they get stabbed to death from ten feet away. That's why literally every single ancient civilization made use of spears, yet not the epee. You're saying that people in the middle ages must have known how to fight with swords, but they must have known how to fight with a spear even better since that was almost exclusively what they used in combat. Except part of the point of a spear (hur hur) is that you don't really need to know how to fight with it. It's a much easier weapon to use in formation than a sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Stabbing with a spear requires just as much education as stabbing with a sword. What makes it easier to use in formation than a sword as a stabbing weapon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyron Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Stabbing with a spear requires just as much education as stabbing with a sword. What makes it easier to use in formation than a sword as a stabbing weapon? in formation spears could be braced against the ground facing out to repel cavalry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 in formation spears could be braced against the ground facing out to repel cavalry you were basically forced to do that because like a 900-1200 pound horse with a big man wearing armor was storming towards you with at least 30km/h. Your arms would be shattered or completely ripped off if you took their charge when holding the bloody thing in your hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyron Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 you were basically forced to do that because like a 900-1200 pound horse with a big man wearing armor was storming towards you with at least 30km/h. Your arms would be shattered or completely ripped off if you took their charge when holding the bloody thing in your hand. my point is it cant be done with a sword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 in formation spears could be braced against the ground facing out to repel cavalry Okay. Was this to supplement my point or counter it? If the former, peachy. If the latter, I don't understand what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramy Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Want some knowledge? Try playing Mount and Blade: Warband. Best medieval combat game eva. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irony Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Chainmail I know can be defeated by Bow and arrows- because of the gaps in the armour (Look at a picture, and you'll get my rubbish explanation) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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