ZemZem Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 ...I hope you realize his Lyre vote was a JOKE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwave Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Yeah, an OP that bans good votes just to get pleasure from "ripping apart" a fictional character. Yeah no. He didn't bother adding an "actual" vote so until then i'm going to assume he legitimately thought giving Lyre a 7 is a good idea. (besides most of the joke posters went for 10). If it was a joke, remove about... half of my insults (but the rest is still applicable.) Edited June 24, 2012 by Starwave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 HAHAHAH the Lyre vote was a total joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aku chi Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 remember kids, turn count is the only thing that matters Indeed. That's why Aeine agrees that Edward and the Black Knight are the most valuable units in the game. So you're going to argue for Janaff based on drafting? I know drafts are fun and all, but they have no bearing at all on efficiency. One would have to be quite deluded to assume so. Why? The goal of most drafts is to complete the game in the fewest turns. Now, if drafters actually cared about reliability, that would fit the definition of efficiency perfectly. Draft runs demonstrate how certain units can be used to complete the game efficiently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwave Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 HAHAHAH the Lyre vote was a total joke. Still doesn't change the fact that you're giving janaff a fucking 5. Everything I said in my post still stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Still doesn't change the fact that you're giving janaff a fucking 5. Everything I said in my post still stands. A score is nothing to get anal over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwave Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Shitty justification and absolute denial over established facts is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Shitty justification and absolute denial over established facts is. Established facts like? Indeed. That's why Aeine agrees that Edward and the Black Knight are the most valuable units in the game. 2 of them, yeah. Why? The goal of most drafts is to complete the game in the fewest turns. Now, if drafters actually cared about reliability, that would fit the definition of efficiency perfectly. Draft runs demonstrate how certain units can be used to complete the game efficiently. Because in efficiency debates, Haar doesn't magically disappear based on a draft. We don't just assume certain characters don't exist when we argue for someone's sake (in this case, Janaff's). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotguner159 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Established facts like? Janaff at base has 40 Attack, which Ike at Cap strength using a Steel Blade only matches as a Hero. He's surviving a round of combat even when doubled due to his high HP untransformed, so he isn't as in danger as other Laguz when not transformed. Canto + flight means it's fairly easy for him to get to safe area's too. He has base avoid of 79 untransformed due to Ike's authority stars, and if he get's a support he gets more defence and avoid. Transformed, he has 113 Avoid, 24 Defence, 16 Resistance. He has a fair chance of survival untransformed, and when Transformed he's NEVER going to die. Hawk gauge isn't as bad as other gauges, so he doesn't need to Grass as often as other laguz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 TURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! Anyway 8/10 flies kills stuff and doesn't afraid of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwave Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Oh right, I forgot to vote. Flight, amazing bases and great laguz class, he may not look like it but he's an extremely competent fighter and is fairly low maintenance too. 8.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 lol i thought Janaff was straightforward enough to not warrant a bitchfest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 ehh, that's what I thought too. tallying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akagami Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I prefer the untouchable Ulki, but Janaff is also great. High bases, flying ability, a level ahead of Tear... It would be a 9/10, but a -0.5 bias... 8.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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