VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Damn little shit keeps dying on me. Kay, here's the scenario. It's normal mode, Endgame. I "used" Sothe, and got him to level 20. For the most part, he has good stats, and has capped speed and whatnot. My idea is to try to make him solo Endgame, without dying. The only way I knew how to do this, was to give him Wrath + Resolve, so I did. Because I lack a USBgecko, he isn't an Assassin -- he's the normal little pipsqueak. So, after I equip Wrath & Resolve, give him 4 Stilettos (full uses, so he has 80 uses total) I start Endgame. Bryce comes along, no big deal right? Knowing Bryce, he'll be able to weaken Sothe enough to activate Wrath + Resolve. And, I was right. He managed to get those skills activated. So, I try using Sothe to kill Bryce, or even a normal enemy. He fails, and they kill him, even with those two skills in affect. What the f*ck. Sothe only has 20 skill points, so there isn't much I can do, and even if I COULD somehow put Lethality on him with him being a Theif, it still wouldn't help. So...what should I do for this? Please don't say, "Dude, just don't do it. It's impossible to make Thief Sothe good." I'm trying to get Sothe to solo endgame, due to a project I am working on, and I am not ditching it. Likewise, because it's a solo, I'm not allowing any supports between Tormod, or Astrid. [Not that he has a support on that playthrough anyways, I just BEXP'd him.] Help? ;-; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 My idea is to try to make him solo Endgame, without dying. And Sothe's going to beat Ashnard... how exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 Well, yeah. That's the thing with the solos. They stop after I kill the 49 enemies in Endgame. I can't hack it to allow Sothe or anyone to kill Ashnard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 If he doesn't have capped HP, Str, Skl, Spd, Def, and Res, fix that first. As much Luck as you can get him (I think 28 is the max without cheating) will also be nice. If you've already done all that and it still isn't working...there isn't really anything else to say. His stats are capped and his choice for weapons is extremely limited. However, if the biggest problem is keeping him alive, there are better skills than Wrath available. Vantage may help with killing before the enemy can get an attack in. Guard would work a lot better with Vantage, but can still work on player phases you aren't using to heal to avoid a hit. Otherwise, get lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 C-cap everything but Magic and Luck? I can cap his Strength and HP with 1 of the appropriate items, but I forgot about the rest. I'll post his stats without stat boost items in a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 can he even hurt the dragons? You have 80 weapon uses and 49 enemies to kill. Even with capped stats I dont think this is possible. Can Volke do it? If Volke has trouble soloing endgame than Sothe just has no chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 Yes, Volke can do it, or at least, I think so. He has 30 strength though, while Sothe's strength is 20, capped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 no, I dont think the assassin STR cap is 30... isnt it like 22-24? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 The assassin strength cap is 23. However, assassins also have 30 speed, letting them double a lot more stuff. Sothe's stuck with 20s all around, so he is going to miss doubling some stuff he wouldn't with a higher speed cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 With resolve he will be able to double just fine. The 80 weapon uses is the main problem. Volke and Sothe need to average 1.7HKO's on every enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 Oh, right. It was speed that was 30. My bad. Yeah, Volke has 23 Strength, and I know Sothe has 19. [Though I do have a Energy Drop, so it's easily fixable.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) Highest MT achievable by Sothe is 28 without resolve, 38 with. On HM the dragons boast 31-33 def, which gets reduced by a couple of points because this is NM. Sothe needs resolve no matter what to even damage the dragons. I'll also recommend forcing crits on the dragons. Edited July 29, 2012 by Daigoji Excellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 A buddy of mine says to try Vantage and Resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 Sothe's Stats without the item boosts: HP: 33 Strength: 18 Magic: 4 Skill: 20 [Capped] Speed: 20 [Capped] Luck: 19 Defense: 17 Resistance: 10 Sothe's stats with the item boosts: HP: 40 [Capped] Strength: 20 [Capped] Magic: 8 Skill: 20 [Capped] Speed: 20 [Capped] Luck: 21 Defense: 20 [Capped] Resistance: 14 Movement: 9 Cn: 10 That's the best I can do on this file. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) Freaking triple post, sorry. I just tested it. Even with capped strength, Sothe cannot damage the dragons. Likewise, Wrath will not help him damage the dragons, since all it does is increase critical hits. So I tried Vantage + Resolve, but the sad thing is, Bryce always has good accuracy against Sothe, even with resolve. Plus, he uses Wishblade to throw it to Sothe, instead of attacking one-on-one. Edit: Yeah, not quadruple posting. Anyways, I've managed to get Sothe to activate Vantage + Resolve after Bryce attacked him...only to be killed by the first dragon. So, any other ideas? Edited July 29, 2012 by etern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Change your goals. See if you can at least reach Ashnard before trying to do a rout. Because the chapter ends with Ashnard, not with a rout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 I'll probably use other characters to kill the Dragons, to see if I can get around them that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 Holy shit, I actually did it. Sothe "solo'd" endgame. Soren had to kill the Dragons, though. Seriously, even ResolveSothe can't handle those. Would anyone wanna watch if I upload the video? It'll be edited, just to show the fights themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I'd enjoy seeing the whole thing. Just the fights doesn't show how much you have to do in one enemy phase and how you avoid being exposed to too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) The entire video is around 1:12:30 long or so. I'll upload both, just in case. Even though it's a solo, I DID heal him a LOT. ;-; Edit: Also, there isn't music in the background, because it makes it easier when editing the video, even IF the full version would end up being more popular. So, when watching the full, just have a playlist of your own playing in the background. Edited July 29, 2012 by etern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Well its not technically a solo if he didnt kill the dragons and was healed by another unit/s. Like I originally thought, a Sothe solo is impossible. How many weapon uses did you have left out of those 80? Or did you have another unit carry extra Stiletos for him too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) Well, at this point, it's the closest thing to a "solo" that he's going to get. I'll try again, when I'm able to make him Assassin Sothe. I brought Largo into the battle, carrying an extra set of 4 Stilettos. I believe I had to end up trading all of the Stilettos over, but he didn't use them all. I'd say he used around 100 or 120 Stilettos or so. Edited July 29, 2012 by etern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 And how is it not a solo if a unit is healed? Explain that to me. The healers aren't attacking (although Elincia accidentally got 1 battle -- enemy didn't die, though) so it should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 A solo is well.. doing everything by yourself. Healing goes against that purpose, regardless of whether they fight or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGE Posted July 29, 2012 Author Share Posted July 29, 2012 That's too hard. Especially for Sothe. I'm going to guess and say using Ena/Nasir's Boon is also against the "rules" of a solo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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